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Davidedo
Scratcher
17 posts

Mode 7!

If you don't know what Mode 7 is, It was a 3D feature used in SNES games such as F-Zero and Super Mario Kart! As you can see, Mode 7 was made in Scratch! But it may take forever to make. But they can add this feature so you don't have to build the scripts that take 43 years (sarcasm) to make. It can be perfect for racing games! It can revolutionize racing games on Scratch!
dude341
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Mode 7!

No support. This would be too specific, there is no reason to add graphics modes into Scratch, it is very, very easy to recreate in Scratch (it's not going to take forever to make) and it is sort-of rejected:
7. 3D Scratch
Scratch is a language that is designed to be as easy as possible for beginners to pick up. Adding 3D would make the language extremely complicated, and much more difficult for beginners to understand. There is a sister program to Scratch that contains 3D features, called Starlogo TNG. However, a different group has started developing a 3D version of Scratch that you can see at www.scratch3d.org. You can also try Alice, which is different from Scratch but has a bunch of stuff in common.
Also, Mode 7 doesn't add 3D capabilities. It just adds scaling, rotating and skewing stuff. Skewing is where the 3D part comes in.
Scaling and rotating are already features in Scratch, and skewing can be added using a very simple script.

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stickfiregames
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Mode 7!

I think this has been suggested before, but I support this! As dude341 said Mode 7 isn't really 3D in itself, but being able to stretch and skew sprites (although the SNES could only do it to backgrounds IIRC) would be really useful in making 3D among other things.

dude341 wrote:

skewing can be added using a very simple script.
What is that simple script? I can't think of anything except using pen or separate costumes.

Last edited by stickfiregames (July 3, 2017 12:21:39)











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dude341
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1000+ posts

Mode 7!

stickfiregames wrote:

I think this has been suggested before, but I support this! As dude341 said Mode 7 isn't really 3D in itself, but being able to stretch and skew sprites would be really useful in making 3D among other things.

dude341 wrote:

skewing can be added using a very simple script.
What is that simple script? I can't think of anything except using pen or separate costumes.
Your own project has proved you wrong: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1802709/

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jromagnoli
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1000+ posts

Mode 7!

dude341 wrote:

stickfiregames wrote:

I think this has been suggested before, but I support this! As dude341 said Mode 7 isn't really 3D in itself, but being able to stretch and skew sprites would be really useful in making 3D among other things.

dude341 wrote:

skewing can be added using a very simple script.
What is that simple script? I can't think of anything except using pen or separate costumes.
Your own project has proved you wrong: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1802709/
No, he's using separate costumes for that.


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stickfiregames
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Mode 7!

dude341 wrote:

stickfiregames wrote:

I think this has been suggested before, but I support this! As dude341 said Mode 7 isn't really 3D in itself, but being able to stretch and skew sprites would be really useful in making 3D among other things.

dude341 wrote:

skewing can be added using a very simple script.
What is that simple script? I can't think of anything except using pen or separate costumes.
Your own project has proved you wrong: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1802709/
That uses separate costumes (in fact it uses separate sprites, but these days you could do it with cloning). It also only allows skewing on the axis I ‘sliced’ it along, it doesn't allow rotation, and the sprite gets distorted if you move it too close to the camera.
It might be possible to rework it to allow any skew axis, but at that point it wouldn't be a “very simple script” any more.
Also, there's a reason I renamed that project from “mode 7 test” years ago - it's not actually like Mode 7 at all.










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Davidedo
Scratcher
17 posts

Mode 7!

But what if its too hard for some people to make Mode 7! And how do you turn?

Last edited by Davidedo (March 12, 2017 16:57:36)

jromagnoli
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Mode 7!

Davidedo wrote:

But what if its too hard for some people to make Mode 7! And how do you turn?
The whole point is to make it easier to make mode 7.


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1a3c5e7g9i
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100+ posts

Mode 7!

dude341 wrote:

skewing can be added using a very simple script.
If you mean by effects, it hasn't been implemented.
Here is the topic that is suggesting skewing and two more effects.



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Super_mario_64
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2 posts

Mode 7!

pls I need this a lot plx just tell me what the simple script is pls
bobbybee
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Mode 7!

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the SNES didn't support Mode 5040, but hey.

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Blaze349
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Mode 7!

Super_mario_64 wrote:

pls I need this a lot plx just tell me what the simple script is pls
Being angry doesn't work.

Davidedo wrote:

If you don't know what Mode 7 is, It was a 3D feature used in SNES games such as F-Zero and Super Mario Kart! As you can see, Mode 7 was made in Scratch! But it may take forever to make. But they can add this feature so you don't have to build the scripts that take 43 years (sarcasm) to make. It can be perfect for racing games! It can revolutionize racing games on Scratch!
There are already many good racing games on Scratch. I don't really see the point of such a feature. Also, it may be patented by Nintendo.
walkcycle
Scratcher
500+ posts

Mode 7!

Davidedo wrote:

And how do you turn?
Here is a game.

Davidedo wrote:

But what if its too hard for some people to make Mode 7!
Remix a project with Mode 7.
dude341
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Mode 7!

Blaze349 wrote:

Also, it may be patented by Nintendo.
Nope. Just a graphics card (in this case chip) display mode

Last edited by dude341 (March 7, 2018 21:00:54)


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