Scratch Merchandise (I know there are books)

minikiwigeek2

I can definitely see a Scratch Cat plush sitting on my shelf right now. Support.

op456

Can't see myself supporting this - it gives rise to too many potential issues in my opinion, as listed below

1. Manufacturing
Considering the limited customer base, manufacturing could be expensive as Scratch wouldn't be able to order in mass, likely not expecting to make money. There'd also be the process of finding a manufacturer, etc
2. Customer base
I don't see very high demand for it. I understand some people say their want it - but - I doubt there would be large demand. Scratch could expect some orders, however, I don't see it being enough to actually justify the means of finding designers, legal processes, creation etc.
3. Potential ethical concerns
Whilst this is limited, Scratch generally, in the past, has attempted to be a relatively ethical corporation. Producing and selling a product, especially with the moral expectations of a company (ie, how would Scratch react to political events etc). I also see the potential of the manufacturing process to be critical… especially considering the questionable standards in many cheaper factories.
4. Costs!
I don't think the costs justify the product. Design, upkeep, putting up a website, selling it could require a lot of work and costs. Considering the limited customer base, I don't think Scratch could guarantee this money back, which would take away money from the running of Scratch and its goals. Tying into this, it could end up wasting the valuable time of Scratch's team and staff.

I understand the want to have these - the design in the first post is nice and I admire such crafts. However, the potential issues far outweigh the possibilities and use. It's unfortunate but we must consider these downsides, even with high support. Maybe, there'd be a way for the ST to see in advance how many people would actually order it (maybe via a funding website?)?

lapisi

isn't Scratch non-profit? wouldn't this go against that?

ScolderCreations

lapisi wrote:
isn't Scratch non-profit? wouldn't this go against that?

If it did, the Scratch Team wouldn't be selling stuff already.

OPagel

I think i remember seeing that image before in a post suggesting the same thing, so I'm gonna consider this a dupe.
I'm not talking about the post that this is trying to revive.

There was also a studio for this too https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/27441654

Last edited by OPagel (May 22, 2022 01:45:31)

scratchguy87

OPagel wrote:
I think i remember seeing that image before in a post suggesting the same thing, so I'm gonna consider this a dupe.
I'm not talking about the post that this is trying to revive.

There was also a studio for this too https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/27441654

It was on a twitter post

blablablahello

lapisi wrote:
isn't Scratch non-profit? wouldn't this go against that?

Non-profit simply means not making a profit, if scratch uses the money it makes to, for example, make the website better, it would still be non-profit, as they wouldn't be making any profit.

op456 wrote:
Can't see myself supporting this - it gives rise to too many potential issues in my opinion, as listed below
(I deleted the rest so it wouldn't take up so much space in my reply hehe)

You make very gud points

, maybe scratch could instead give out instructions on HOW to make plushies, and have people make their own plushies and post them on scrathc? that would be cool and not cost any money (and be educational, its good to know how to sew)

scratchguy87

blablablahello wrote:
lapisi wrote:
isn't Scratch non-profit? wouldn't this go against that?
Non-profit simply means not making a profit, if scratch uses the money it makes to, for example, make the website better, it would still be non-profit, as they wouldn't be making any profit.
op456 wrote:
Can't see myself supporting this - it gives rise to too many potential issues in my opinion, as listed below
(I deleted the rest so it wouldn't take up so much space in my reply hehe)

You make very gud points , maybe scratch could instead give out instructions on HOW to make plushies, and have people make their own plushies and post them on scrathc? that would be cool and not cost any money (and be educational, its good to know how to sew)

Yeah but wont that kinda be illegal if someone tries to sell them?

OpenSorcery

scratchguy87 wrote:
I am bringing back a topic from 2014 ( https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/33566 ) since it was a pretty good suggestion. How about some scratch plush toys? The closest thing I found was https://twitter.com/mres/status/1208452294259249152?lang=en but i don't think those were made public for anyone to buy. I think it's a pretty cool idea, especially to have all the scratch mascots in plush form.

As much as I'd want one, Scratch is non-profit and perhaps plushies would interfere with that.

EDIT: How the Scratch Team responds will influence the likelihood of this happening. Also if the money went to funding the servers, then perhaps it'd still be fine, but there are other concerns addressed by other users.

Last edited by OpenSorcery (May 25, 2022 03:58:12)

blablablahello

scratchguy87 wrote:
blablablahello wrote:
lapisi wrote:
isn't Scratch non-profit? wouldn't this go against that?
Non-profit simply means not making a profit, if scratch uses the money it makes to, for example, make the website better, it would still be non-profit, as they wouldn't be making any profit.
op456 wrote:
Can't see myself supporting this - it gives rise to too many potential issues in my opinion, as listed below
(I deleted the rest so it wouldn't take up so much space in my reply hehe)

You make very gud points , maybe scratch could instead give out instructions on HOW to make plushies, and have people make their own plushies and post them on scrathc? that would be cool and not cost any money (and be educational, its good to know how to sew)
Yeah but wont that kinda be illegal if someone tries to sell them?

Depends on what the ST thinks, since scratch is non-profit, scratch cat could be under the common license thingie (I forgot name), which allows people for commercial use under some specific cercumstances, also, why would people sell it anyways? it would still be illegal without the instructioins

ScolderCreations

Alright everyone, I want to make something clear. The scratch team already sells stuff. Therefore, this wouldn’t be a non-profit-org problem.

helloimScratchCat

when green flag clicked
say [i want them to exist!!] for (2) secs
play sound [scratch team make them plese !!]

helloimScratchCat

helloimScratchCat wrote:

when green flag clicked
say [i want them to exist!!] for (2) secs
play sound [scratch team make them plese !!]

exiits but only form mit

helloimScratchCat

:

k0d3rrr

helloimScratchCat wrote:

when green flag clicked
say [i want them to exist!!] for (2) secs
play sound [scratch team make them plese !!]

Why do you want Scratch merchandise to exist? Please be constructive.
It's just the rules of the forums…

op456

Can't see myself supporting this - it gives rise to too many potential issues in my opinion, as listed below

1. Manufacturing
Considering the limited customer base, manufacturing could be expensive as Scratch wouldn't be able to order in mass, likely not expecting to make money. There'd also be the process of finding a manufacturer, etc
2. Customer base
I don't see very high demand for it. I understand some people say their want it - but - I doubt there would be large demand. Scratch could expect some orders, however, I don't see it being enough to actually justify the means of finding designers, legal processes, creation etc.
3. Potential ethical concerns
Whilst this is limited, Scratch generally, in the past, has attempted to be a relatively ethical corporation. Producing and selling a product, especially with the moral expectations of a company (ie, how would Scratch react to political events etc). I also see the potential of the manufacturing process to be critical… especially considering the questionable standards in many cheaper factories.
4. Costs!
I don't think the costs justify the product. Design, upkeep, putting up a website, selling it could require a lot of work and costs. Considering the limited customer base, I don't think Scratch could guarantee this money back, which would take away money from the running of Scratch and its goals. Tying into this, it could end up wasting the valuable time of Scratch's team and staff.

This is taken from a similar topic that I commented on about the possibility of plushies, however I believe it is relevant here too.

Andygun11

op456 wrote:
Can't see myself supporting this - it gives rise to too many potential issues in my opinion, as listed below

1. Manufacturing
Considering the limited customer base, manufacturing could be expensive as Scratch wouldn't be able to order in mass, likely not expecting to make money. There'd also be the process of finding a manufacturer, etc
2. Customer base
I don't see very high demand for it. I understand some people say their want it - but - I doubt there would be large demand. Scratch could expect some orders, however, I don't see it being enough to actually justify the means of finding designers, legal processes, creation etc.
3. Potential ethical concerns
Whilst this is limited, Scratch generally, in the past, has attempted to be a relatively ethical corporation. Producing and selling a product, especially with the moral expectations of a company (ie, how would Scratch react to political events etc). I also see the potential of the manufacturing process to be critical… especially considering the questionable standards in many cheaper factories.
4. Costs!
I don't think the costs justify the product. Design, upkeep, putting up a website, selling it could require a lot of work and costs. Considering the limited customer base, I don't think Scratch could guarantee this money back, which would take away money from the running of Scratch and its goals. Tying into this, it could end up wasting the valuable time of Scratch's team and staff.

This is taken from a similar topic that I commented on about the possibility of plushies, however I believe it is relevant here too.

They kinda already have merch, but not plushies.
(https://scratch-foundation.myshopify.com/)

rainbowgamer0408

when green flag clicked
say [I wish scratch cat plushies were on sale so I can buy them]

CutePablo2004

xXRedTheCoderXx wrote:
Hmmm…
It Is Really Cute !!!!
I Really want one of them!

helloimScratchCat

when green flag clicked
say [Come To Life] for (Infinity) secs

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