ST: Actually notice hot suggestions

IronBit_Studios

So, the Suggestions forum is based on things the ST may or may not add, right?
Over the past few years, there honestly hasn't been much real suggestion feedback (“We'll look into it”, “Maybe if you added __, __, or __”, etc.), more of the (“Merging this with that”, “Closed because _____”, etc.).
Well, this isn't really something to logistically implement, but more of a request to look into popular suggestions; with sound reasoning and strong community support, it's only reasonable that you guys up at MIT should at least check it out.

TL;DR- ST, please pay attention to good suggestions

Blaze349

They recently implemented one

awesome-llama

Blaze349 wrote:
They recently implemented one

Which one?

I agree, some suggestions should definitely be added, and the ST need to respond whether the suggestion will be implemented.

Blaze349

awesome-llama wrote:
Blaze349 wrote:
They recently implemented one
Which one?

I agree, some suggestions should definitely be added, and the ST need to respond whether the suggestion will be implemented.

The credits suggestion.

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
No support.
The scratch team already has too much work moderating the website.

IronBit_Studios

Blaze349 wrote:
The credits suggestion.
Ihaveexpectations wrote:
No support.
The scratch team already has too much work moderating the website.

If you're going to reference something please do link it.

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
No support.
The scratch team already has too much work moderating the website.

Ok so the ST is “overworked” by means you can't really determine while moderating this forum is literally their job.

Blaze349

IronBit_Studios wrote:
Blaze349 wrote:
The credits suggestion.
Ihaveexpectations wrote:
No support.
The scratch team already has too much work moderating the website.
If you're going to reference something please do link it.

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
No support.
The scratch team already has too much work moderating the website.
Ok so the ST is “overworked” by means you can't really determine while moderating this forum is literally their job.

It is not my fault if you don't check the recent announcements. I mean it is on the front page.

Ninkancho

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
No support.
The scratch team already has too much work moderating the website.

I believe checking Suggestions counts as moderating the website. Sounds like the point of a Report button on the forums to me!

Scratcher1002

They do, they have referenced custom reporters coming to Scratch 3.0, they added the credits suggestion, the backpack button (was removed for being glitchy) and I believe there was one to do with the search bar.

IronBit_Studios

Blaze349 wrote:
IronBit_Studios wrote:
Blaze349 wrote:
The credits suggestion.
Ihaveexpectations wrote:
No support.
The scratch team already has too much work moderating the website.
If you're going to reference something please do link it.

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
No support.
The scratch team already has too much work moderating the website.
Ok so the ST is “overworked” by means you can't really determine while moderating this forum is literally their job.
It is not my fault if you don't check the recent announcements. I mean it is on the front page.

What is on the front page? Also, what exactly are you blaming me for?

Digital_Gaming

Support. While the ST notices some they implement very few.

Lythium

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
You guys are completely missing the point of the suggestion forums. It was created to prevent the scratch team from getting spammed with emails about suggestions that they couldn't care less about. Now we have an official place to post suggestions, they won't get spammed, and will be able to focus more on moderating the website. If we want them to actually listen to our suggestions, they won't be able to moderate and there will be a lot more inappropriate projects.

Uh…. source?

Considering the fact that some suggestions from this place have actually been implemented, I don't think this place is for suggestions ‘they couldn’t care less about'

Sheep_maker

Reporter blocks, undo/redo, automatic remix credit, the magic wand tool, limiting the project count to 100 on studio pages, hiding follower/following/comment counts on profiles, boolean blocks with pointy edges, add to backpack button (later removed), resize the search bar, reordering explore results, etc…

SuperNicky

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
You guys are completely missing the point of the suggestion forums. It was created to prevent the scratch team from getting spammed with emails about suggestions that they couldn't care less about. Now we have an official place to post suggestions, they won't get spammed, and will be able to focus more on moderating the website. If we want them to actually listen to our suggestions, they won't be able to moderate and there will be a lot more inappropriate projects.

Report button? I don't think responding to reports is much to moderate since you probably have to search for inappropriate projects, studios etc. And even that is not particularly hard. Especially since the ST consists of more than 2 members, I'm pretty sure 1 person moderating the entire site, whilst seeming absurd on paper, is enough. All you really have to do is search for inappropriate projects (I hate etc.) To find them. It's gonna be real hard moderating the forums since they removed the discussion search

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+1 for this, I'm tired of what would be a very good feature to add being shunned by the ST. I mean, no offence but I would give a little more than a vague “We'll look into this” or criticising the suggestion itself instead of just modifying it to what would be valid for scratch
TL;DR: It's not hard work to moderate the website, yes it's absurd to say what I'm saying, but they can still respond to suggestions with a “We'll add this but modified to etc. etc.”

IronBit_Studios

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
You guys are completely missing the point of the suggestion forums. It was created to prevent the scratch team from getting spammed with emails about suggestions that they couldn't care less about.

If that were the case, couldn't they post an announcement saying:

the ST theoretically wrote:
ok guys don't suggest anything

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
Now we have an official place to post suggestions, they won't get spammed, and will be able to focus more on moderating the website. If we want them to actually listen to our suggestions, they won't be able to moderate and there will be a lot more inappropriate projects.

IronBit_Studios wrote:
Ok so the ST is “overworked” by means you can't really determine while moderating this forum is literally their job.

thoyal

I support anything that makes more suggestions get implemented.

IronBit_Studios

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
IronBit_Studios wrote:
Ihaveexpectations wrote:
You guys are completely missing the point of the suggestion forums. It was created to prevent the scratch team from getting spammed with emails about suggestions that they couldn't care less about.
If that were the case, couldn't they post an announcement saying:
the ST theoretically wrote:
ok guys don't suggest anything

People wouldn't listen. It's easier to give the illusion of suggestions getting noticed then to make people stop suggesting them.

You're saying that the ST should lie to us instead of asking not to suggest, which would totally never be listened to because anarchy.
Think about that.

Digital_Gaming

thoyal wrote:
I support anything that makes more suggestions get implemented.

So do I.

AwesomePerson238243

support. im surprised there is even an argument against this. they made a suggestions forum, why not use it? i realize that they already do, but this getting noticed wouldn't make them add less, would it?

IronBit_Studios

Ihaveexpectations wrote:
IronBit_Studios wrote:
Ihaveexpectations wrote:
IronBit_Studios wrote:
Ihaveexpectations wrote:
You guys are completely missing the point of the suggestion forums. It was created to prevent the scratch team from getting spammed with emails about suggestions that they couldn't care less about.
If that were the case, couldn't they post an announcement saying:
the ST theoretically wrote:
ok guys don't suggest anything

People wouldn't listen. It's easier to give the illusion of suggestions getting noticed then to make people stop suggesting them.
You're saying that the ST should lie to us instead of asking not to suggest, which would totally never be listened to because anarchy.
Think about that.
Yes, that's true.
The st should, and they do.

Last edited by IronBit_Studios (Oct. 8, 2016 18:20:07)

Paddle2See

Digital_Gaming wrote:
thoyal wrote:
I support anything that makes more suggestions get implemented.
So do I.

So…would you support putting a fee on Scratch so we can hire more developers? Probably not - and that's not the direction that the team intends to go anyway, so far as I know. But that is what it comes down to - it's a small team that has a lot on it's plate. We implement what makes sense, that we can afford, and that fits into our goals for Scratch.

We do appreciate the suggestions from the Community. However, there are a lot that don't meet our design goals or would cost too much to implement. We don't reject them outright - they are still cool ideas - but they also aren't likely to be implemented unless there is a big change in funding or ST design goals.

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