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go88
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

-ColorMaster- wrote:

AAlanScratch wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Programmer1121 wrote:

Okay, everyone. BEst parts of BOTW and worst parts about it.
Divine Beasts suck, I just don't like dungeons, but I realize most people like them so I'm in the minority. I generally didn't myself wanting to do the side quests either

Finding new villages and areas is basically the best feeling ever though
Honestly, Vah Ruta was my only favorite Divine Beast. You had to actually had use water to solve some of the puzzles. But every other Divine Beast you have to move and twist its body. Gee, that's fun. It's not like they're going to repeat this sort of thing 3 times already. So yeah, I think the Divine Beasts was the worst part of the game.

The best part to me was riding on a horse and exploring. You go pretty fast but at an equal speed where you don't go too fast. I absolutely love the music that plays at night.
*riding the Master Cycle Zero
I think when running around a game is the most fun part you've nailed it

PICHU IN SMASH WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
go88
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

go88 wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

AAlanScratch wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Programmer1121 wrote:

Okay, everyone. BEst parts of BOTW and worst parts about it.
Divine Beasts suck, I just don't like dungeons, but I realize most people like them so I'm in the minority. I generally didn't myself wanting to do the side quests either

Finding new villages and areas is basically the best feeling ever though
Honestly, Vah Ruta was my only favorite Divine Beast. You had to actually had use water to solve some of the puzzles. But every other Divine Beast you have to move and twist its body. Gee, that's fun. It's not like they're going to repeat this sort of thing 3 times already. So yeah, I think the Divine Beasts was the worst part of the game.

The best part to me was riding on a horse and exploring. You go pretty fast but at an equal speed where you don't go too fast. I absolutely love the music that plays at night.
*riding the Master Cycle Zero
I think when running around a game is the most fun part you've nailed it
and I don't mean that in an “everything else stinks” kind of way

PICHU IN SMASH WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
braxbroscratcher
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

AAlanScratch wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Programmer1121 wrote:

Okay, everyone. BEst parts of BOTW and worst parts about it.
Divine Beasts suck, I just don't like dungeons, but I realize most people like them so I'm in the minority. I generally didn't myself wanting to do the side quests either

Finding new villages and areas is basically the best feeling ever though
Honestly, Vah Ruta was my only favorite Divine Beast. You had to actually had use water to solve some of the puzzles. But every other Divine Beast you have to move and twist its body. Gee, that's fun. It's not like they're going to repeat this sort of thing 3 times already. So yeah, I think the Divine Beasts was the worst part of the game.

The best part to me was riding on a horse and exploring. You go pretty fast but at an equal speed where you don't go too fast. I absolutely love the music that plays at night.

I liked what Vah Rudania tried to be, same with Vah Naboris, but they weren't nearly as thought out or well made as Ruta. Haven't touched the lazer camel yet, but from what I can see it's a massive pain in the rear and nothing else.


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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

braxbroscratcher wrote:

AAlanScratch wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Programmer1121 wrote:

Okay, everyone. BEst parts of BOTW and worst parts about it.
Divine Beasts suck, I just don't like dungeons, but I realize most people like them so I'm in the minority. I generally didn't myself wanting to do the side quests either

Finding new villages and areas is basically the best feeling ever though
Honestly, Vah Ruta was my only favorite Divine Beast. You had to actually had use water to solve some of the puzzles. But every other Divine Beast you have to move and twist its body. Gee, that's fun. It's not like they're going to repeat this sort of thing 3 times already. So yeah, I think the Divine Beasts was the worst part of the game.

The best part to me was riding on a horse and exploring. You go pretty fast but at an equal speed where you don't go too fast. I absolutely love the music that plays at night.

I liked what Vah Rudania tried to be, same with Vah Naboris, but they weren't nearly as thought out or well made as Ruta. Haven't touched the lazer camel yet, but from what I can see it's a massive pain in the rear and nothing else.
Lazer Camel was really easy, I wouldn't even call it a dungeon. The only challenging part was the boss.

But yes, Ruta was the only creative one out of all of them. It was cool that most of the puzzles rely on water. Could they have used more wind for Medoh instead of tilting? Could they have used fire for Rudania instead of twisting its body? Could they have used more electricity for Naboris instead of twisting its insides? Yes. All of them are yes.

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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

AAlanScratch wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

AAlanScratch wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Programmer1121 wrote:

Okay, everyone. BEst parts of BOTW and worst parts about it.
Divine Beasts suck, I just don't like dungeons, but I realize most people like them so I'm in the minority. I generally didn't myself wanting to do the side quests either

Finding new villages and areas is basically the best feeling ever though
Honestly, Vah Ruta was my only favorite Divine Beast. You had to actually had use water to solve some of the puzzles. But every other Divine Beast you have to move and twist its body. Gee, that's fun. It's not like they're going to repeat this sort of thing 3 times already. So yeah, I think the Divine Beasts was the worst part of the game.

The best part to me was riding on a horse and exploring. You go pretty fast but at an equal speed where you don't go too fast. I absolutely love the music that plays at night.

I liked what Vah Rudania tried to be, same with Vah Naboris, but they weren't nearly as thought out or well made as Ruta. Haven't touched the lazer camel yet, but from what I can see it's a massive pain in the rear and nothing else.
Lazer Camel was really easy, I wouldn't even call it a dungeon. The only challenging part was the boss.

But yes, Ruta was the only creative one out of all of them. It was cool that most of the puzzles rely on water. Could they have used more wind for Medoh instead of tilting? Could they have used fire for Rudania instead of twisting its body? Could they have used more electricity for Naboris instead of twisting its insides? Yes. All of them are yes.
Eh, Rudania with tilting would have been fine, they just needed to make it have more puzzles. It had way too much empty space.


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go88
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

braxbroscratcher wrote:

AAlanScratch wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

AAlanScratch wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Programmer1121 wrote:

Okay, everyone. BEst parts of BOTW and worst parts about it.
Divine Beasts suck, I just don't like dungeons, but I realize most people like them so I'm in the minority. I generally didn't myself wanting to do the side quests either

Finding new villages and areas is basically the best feeling ever though
Honestly, Vah Ruta was my only favorite Divine Beast. You had to actually had use water to solve some of the puzzles. But every other Divine Beast you have to move and twist its body. Gee, that's fun. It's not like they're going to repeat this sort of thing 3 times already. So yeah, I think the Divine Beasts was the worst part of the game.

The best part to me was riding on a horse and exploring. You go pretty fast but at an equal speed where you don't go too fast. I absolutely love the music that plays at night.

I liked what Vah Rudania tried to be, same with Vah Naboris, but they weren't nearly as thought out or well made as Ruta. Haven't touched the lazer camel yet, but from what I can see it's a massive pain in the rear and nothing else.
Lazer Camel was really easy, I wouldn't even call it a dungeon. The only challenging part was the boss.

But yes, Ruta was the only creative one out of all of them. It was cool that most of the puzzles rely on water. Could they have used more wind for Medoh instead of tilting? Could they have used fire for Rudania instead of twisting its body? Could they have used more electricity for Naboris instead of twisting its insides? Yes. All of them are yes.
Eh, Rudania with tilting would have been fine, they just needed to make it have more puzzles. It had way too much empty space.
Rudania on the whole feels like it was done last, and had the least amount of time put into it.

PICHU IN SMASH WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
braxbroscratcher
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

go88 wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

AAlanScratch wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

AAlanScratch wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Programmer1121 wrote:

Okay, everyone. BEst parts of BOTW and worst parts about it.
Divine Beasts suck, I just don't like dungeons, but I realize most people like them so I'm in the minority. I generally didn't myself wanting to do the side quests either

Finding new villages and areas is basically the best feeling ever though
Honestly, Vah Ruta was my only favorite Divine Beast. You had to actually had use water to solve some of the puzzles. But every other Divine Beast you have to move and twist its body. Gee, that's fun. It's not like they're going to repeat this sort of thing 3 times already. So yeah, I think the Divine Beasts was the worst part of the game.

The best part to me was riding on a horse and exploring. You go pretty fast but at an equal speed where you don't go too fast. I absolutely love the music that plays at night.

I liked what Vah Rudania tried to be, same with Vah Naboris, but they weren't nearly as thought out or well made as Ruta. Haven't touched the lazer camel yet, but from what I can see it's a massive pain in the rear and nothing else.
Lazer Camel was really easy, I wouldn't even call it a dungeon. The only challenging part was the boss.

But yes, Ruta was the only creative one out of all of them. It was cool that most of the puzzles rely on water. Could they have used more wind for Medoh instead of tilting? Could they have used fire for Rudania instead of twisting its body? Could they have used more electricity for Naboris instead of twisting its insides? Yes. All of them are yes.
Eh, Rudania with tilting would have been fine, they just needed to make it have more puzzles. It had way too much empty space.
Rudania on the whole feels like it was done last, and had the least amount of time put into it.
Yeah. I mean, the external part was cool. The internal was bland and boring and mostly took me the time it took because I tried for 100% loot. That and I fell off things a lot.


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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

Well, after like 50 or 60 hours, I FINALLY FINISHED THE GAME!!!!!!!! BoTW is only my second zelda game I've completed (ww was the first and I've played others, just didn't finish them), and I gotta say I really enjoyed it. Except for the really annoying aspects of the game, I think it's a really solid zelda game. But, I was REALLY disappointed by the final boss… Not only do the divine beasts half calamity ganon's health (which made that part real easy), dark beast ganon was just plain easy and bland. Target practice?? Really?! Oh well, I still think it's a great game and I'll definitely be playing it for quite sometime, even though I beasts final boss!!

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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

ninetales09 wrote:

Well, after like 50 or 60 hours, I FINALLY FINISHED THE GAME!!!!!!!! BoTW is only my second zelda game I've completed (ww was the first and I've played others, just didn't finish them), and I gotta say I really enjoyed it. Except for the really annoying aspects of the game, I think it's a really solid zelda game. But, I was REALLY disappointed by the final boss… Not only do the divine beasts half calamity ganon's health (which made that part real easy), dark beast ganon was just plain easy and bland. Target practice?? Really?! Oh well, I still think it's a great game and I'll definitely be playing it for quite sometime, even though I beasts final boss!!
Who else thinks ganon needed a third form?

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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

Programmer1121 wrote:

ninetales09 wrote:

Well, after like 50 or 60 hours, I FINALLY FINISHED THE GAME!!!!!!!! BoTW is only my second zelda game I've completed (ww was the first and I've played others, just didn't finish them), and I gotta say I really enjoyed it. Except for the really annoying aspects of the game, I think it's a really solid zelda game. But, I was REALLY disappointed by the final boss… Not only do the divine beasts half calamity ganon's health (which made that part real easy), dark beast ganon was just plain easy and bland. Target practice?? Really?! Oh well, I still think it's a great game and I'll definitely be playing it for quite sometime, even though I beasts final boss!!
Who else thinks ganon needed a third form?
He needs forms 3-5. That way after you beat him the second time he just says, THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM (jk)


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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

Welp, it's basically been a year since I got this game, and ever since I beat it I've been planning to do a 2nd replay during my next summer break. It just start 1-2 weeks ago, so now is the time…

I avoided as much as I could on the game after beating the 2nd DLC pack, I wanted to go this remembering as little as possible, which was hard because MAN are those videos intriguing sometimes, but how does it hold up for me 2nd time through?

Short answer: I'm honestly not really sure

Which is a weird answer for a game I consider my favorite ever, right?

It can keep that title, but I think this is caused by something pretty surprising, which is…

It's not really meant to be replayed

The Great Plateau is still an amazing tutorial, I got off of it within an hour (even after taking the wrong route and spending about 10 minutes getting back) and even got some decent weapons to charge my way through. But after that, the magic wears off. Sure, after my 7 hours so far I've found 1-2 new things that give me that feeling I once had, but Breath of the Wild lost it's one tool that made it go from good to amazing.

The ability to make you ask questions

“How can I get there?” “What is that?” “Why would this be here” “Who's that?” “Where even AM I?!” All these questions are presented to you as you play, and BotW gives you the toolset to answer them however you'd like. That's great and all, but on the 2nd playthrough you already know the answers to most of those questions. It fades away, and you find yourself secretly asking “Okay when can this be over so I can get to the fun part?”

Quoting YouTubers is generally pretty cringy, but I think this one'll help my case a lil' further.

During Alpharad's 2nd playthrough of Super Mario Odyssey (you've probably heard of it, it's only the most popular game ever basically), he said “You know, I remember seeing this for the first time and being like ‘WOAH! This is awesome’ but now I already know what's going to happen, it's lost that special feeling”

Which is exactly how I feel, still an amazing game, and the mechanics alone are fun, but it'll never be as magical again, which while it saddens me that I'll remember this game as a part of my childhood for a while knowing that I'll never be able to feel about it the same way again, it's bittersweet. It had to have been great in the first place to have me feel this and it's just a game, a great one at that

if it's a post from 3 months ago or earlier, I probably already regret it immensely, same will apply with this sig in 3 months time

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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Welp, it's basically been a year since I got this game, and ever since I beat it I've been planning to do a 2nd replay during my next summer break. It just start 1-2 weeks ago, so now is the time…

I avoided as much as I could on the game after beating the 2nd DLC pack, I wanted to go this remembering as little as possible, which was hard because MAN are those videos intriguing sometimes, but how does it hold up for me 2nd time through?

Short answer: I'm honestly not really sure

Which is a weird answer for a game I consider my favorite ever, right?

It can keep that title, but I think this is caused by something pretty surprising, which is…

It's not really meant to be replayed

The Great Plateau is still an amazing tutorial, I got off of it within an hour (even after taking the wrong route and spending about 10 minutes getting back) and even got some decent weapons to charge my way through. But after that, the magic wears off. Sure, after my 7 hours so far I've found 1-2 new things that give me that feeling I once had, but Breath of the Wild lost it's one tool that made it go from good to amazing.

The ability to make you ask questions

“How can I get there?” “What is that?” “Why would this be here” “Who's that?” “Where even AM I?!” All these questions are presented to you as you play, and BotW gives you the toolset to answer them however you'd like. That's great and all, but on the 2nd playthrough you already know the answers to most of those questions. It fades away, and you find yourself secretly asking “Okay when can this be over so I can get to the fun part?”

Quoting YouTubers is generally pretty cringy, but I think this one'll help my case a lil' further.

During Alpharad's 2nd playthrough of Super Mario Odyssey (you've probably heard of it, it's only the most popular game ever basically), he said “You know, I remember seeing this for the first time and being like ‘WOAH! This is awesome’ but now I already know what's going to happen, it's lost that special feeling”

Which is exactly how I feel, still an amazing game, and the mechanics alone are fun, but it'll never be as magical again, which while it saddens me that I'll remember this game as a part of my childhood for a while knowing that I'll never be able to feel about it the same way again, it's bittersweet. It had to have been great in the first place to have me feel this and it's just a game, a great one at that
SPOILERS master mode has a gold lynel in the great plateau.

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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Welp, it's basically been a year since I got this game, and ever since I beat it I've been planning to do a 2nd replay during my next summer break. It just start 1-2 weeks ago, so now is the time…

I avoided as much as I could on the game after beating the 2nd DLC pack, I wanted to go this remembering as little as possible, which was hard because MAN are those videos intriguing sometimes, but how does it hold up for me 2nd time through?

Short answer: I'm honestly not really sure

Which is a weird answer for a game I consider my favorite ever, right?

It can keep that title, but I think this is caused by something pretty surprising, which is…

It's not really meant to be replayed

The Great Plateau is still an amazing tutorial, I got off of it within an hour (even after taking the wrong route and spending about 10 minutes getting back) and even got some decent weapons to charge my way through. But after that, the magic wears off. Sure, after my 7 hours so far I've found 1-2 new things that give me that feeling I once had, but Breath of the Wild lost it's one tool that made it go from good to amazing.

The ability to make you ask questions

“How can I get there?” “What is that?” “Why would this be here” “Who's that?” “Where even AM I?!” All these questions are presented to you as you play, and BotW gives you the toolset to answer them however you'd like. That's great and all, but on the 2nd playthrough you already know the answers to most of those questions. It fades away, and you find yourself secretly asking “Okay when can this be over so I can get to the fun part?”

Quoting YouTubers is generally pretty cringy, but I think this one'll help my case a lil' further.

During Alpharad's 2nd playthrough of Super Mario Odyssey (you've probably heard of it, it's only the most popular game ever basically), he said “You know, I remember seeing this for the first time and being like ‘WOAH! This is awesome’ but now I already know what's going to happen, it's lost that special feeling”

Which is exactly how I feel, still an amazing game, and the mechanics alone are fun, but it'll never be as magical again, which while it saddens me that I'll remember this game as a part of my childhood for a while knowing that I'll never be able to feel about it the same way again, it's bittersweet. It had to have been great in the first place to have me feel this and it's just a game, a great one at that
You could try doing really dumb stuff your second playthrough. Like for instance, ONLY travelling long distances with Stasis.


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-ColorMaster-
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

braxbroscratcher wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Welp, it's basically been a year since I got this game, and ever since I beat it I've been planning to do a 2nd replay during my next summer break. It just start 1-2 weeks ago, so now is the time…

I avoided as much as I could on the game after beating the 2nd DLC pack, I wanted to go this remembering as little as possible, which was hard because MAN are those videos intriguing sometimes, but how does it hold up for me 2nd time through?

Short answer: I'm honestly not really sure

Which is a weird answer for a game I consider my favorite ever, right?

It can keep that title, but I think this is caused by something pretty surprising, which is…

It's not really meant to be replayed

The Great Plateau is still an amazing tutorial, I got off of it within an hour (even after taking the wrong route and spending about 10 minutes getting back) and even got some decent weapons to charge my way through. But after that, the magic wears off. Sure, after my 7 hours so far I've found 1-2 new things that give me that feeling I once had, but Breath of the Wild lost it's one tool that made it go from good to amazing.

The ability to make you ask questions

“How can I get there?” “What is that?” “Why would this be here” “Who's that?” “Where even AM I?!” All these questions are presented to you as you play, and BotW gives you the toolset to answer them however you'd like. That's great and all, but on the 2nd playthrough you already know the answers to most of those questions. It fades away, and you find yourself secretly asking “Okay when can this be over so I can get to the fun part?”

Quoting YouTubers is generally pretty cringy, but I think this one'll help my case a lil' further.

During Alpharad's 2nd playthrough of Super Mario Odyssey (you've probably heard of it, it's only the most popular game ever basically), he said “You know, I remember seeing this for the first time and being like ‘WOAH! This is awesome’ but now I already know what's going to happen, it's lost that special feeling”

Which is exactly how I feel, still an amazing game, and the mechanics alone are fun, but it'll never be as magical again, which while it saddens me that I'll remember this game as a part of my childhood for a while knowing that I'll never be able to feel about it the same way again, it's bittersweet. It had to have been great in the first place to have me feel this and it's just a game, a great one at that
You could try doing really dumb stuff your second playthrough. Like for instance, ONLY travelling long distances with Stasis.
Aha, forgot to add that part

The problem is that, although there's the illusion that you can make the game harder, in reality it's “How tedious do you want to make things?”, especially with combat

The Great Plateau was, again, perfect for this, since the enemy AI and health in correlation to your skill and arsenal were great. Sure, killing that red Bokoblin might almost break your weapon, but you get a new one, and killing that blue one may take 3 weapons before you finally kill it, but you get an even better weapon in return. Unfortunately later in the game (in fact, right after you jump off the Great Plateau) that balance has been ruined. Enemies don't get any new attacks as they become more difficult and become meat shields, and you break 2 good weapons to just get one mediocre one and maybe a couple of rupees worth of stuff?

You can limit yourself to stuff such as having only 3 hearts but in reality it'd just turn the game into a monster sized game of tag where you just run away every time in hope of survival instead of engaging in the combat

Plus the other challenges (limiting yourself to certain kinds of food, the Stasis thing), are essentially just annoying and require you to grind for things or spend more time than need be to get a certain thing done. The point would be for it to be more challenging or present a new skill ceiling, rather than have something take more time for the sake of taking more time

Last edited by -ColorMaster- (May 16, 2018 01:19:11)


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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

-ColorMaster- wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Welp, it's basically been a year since I got this game, and ever since I beat it I've been planning to do a 2nd replay during my next summer break. It just start 1-2 weeks ago, so now is the time…

I avoided as much as I could on the game after beating the 2nd DLC pack, I wanted to go this remembering as little as possible, which was hard because MAN are those videos intriguing sometimes, but how does it hold up for me 2nd time through?

Short answer: I'm honestly not really sure

Which is a weird answer for a game I consider my favorite ever, right?

It can keep that title, but I think this is caused by something pretty surprising, which is…

It's not really meant to be replayed

The Great Plateau is still an amazing tutorial, I got off of it within an hour (even after taking the wrong route and spending about 10 minutes getting back) and even got some decent weapons to charge my way through. But after that, the magic wears off. Sure, after my 7 hours so far I've found 1-2 new things that give me that feeling I once had, but Breath of the Wild lost it's one tool that made it go from good to amazing.

The ability to make you ask questions

“How can I get there?” “What is that?” “Why would this be here” “Who's that?” “Where even AM I?!” All these questions are presented to you as you play, and BotW gives you the toolset to answer them however you'd like. That's great and all, but on the 2nd playthrough you already know the answers to most of those questions. It fades away, and you find yourself secretly asking “Okay when can this be over so I can get to the fun part?”

Quoting YouTubers is generally pretty cringy, but I think this one'll help my case a lil' further.

During Alpharad's 2nd playthrough of Super Mario Odyssey (you've probably heard of it, it's only the most popular game ever basically), he said “You know, I remember seeing this for the first time and being like ‘WOAH! This is awesome’ but now I already know what's going to happen, it's lost that special feeling”

Which is exactly how I feel, still an amazing game, and the mechanics alone are fun, but it'll never be as magical again, which while it saddens me that I'll remember this game as a part of my childhood for a while knowing that I'll never be able to feel about it the same way again, it's bittersweet. It had to have been great in the first place to have me feel this and it's just a game, a great one at that
You could try doing really dumb stuff your second playthrough. Like for instance, ONLY travelling long distances with Stasis.
Aha, forgot to add that part

The problem is that, although there's the illusion that you can make the game harder, in reality it's “How tedious do you want to make things?”, especially with combat

The Great Plateau was, again, perfect for this, since the enemy AI and health in correlation to your skill and arsenal were great. Sure, killing that red Bokoblin might almost break your weapon, but you get a new one, and killing that blue one may take 3 weapons before you finally kill it, but you get an even better weapon in return. Unfortunately later in the game (in fact, right after you jump off the Great Plateau) that balance has been ruined. Enemies don't get any new attacks as they become more difficult and become meat shields, and you break 2 good weapons to just get one mediocre one and maybe a couple of rupees worth of stuff?

You can limit yourself to stuff such as having only 3 hearts but in reality it'd just turn the game into a monster sized game of tag where you just run away every time in hope of survival instead of engaging in the combat

Plus the other challenges (limiting yourself to certain kinds of food, the Stasis thing), are essentially just annoying and require you to grind for things or spend more time than need be to get a certain thing done. The point would be for it to be more challenging or present a new skill ceiling, rather than have something take more time for the sake of taking more time
fine, no bows. use only stasis objects for ranged combat. You can use bows to hit objects in stasis, or create fires for updrafts, but you can't direct hit enemies with arrows. It's really funny anyway when you come by and see a fight, and then you just stand there as a crate comes out of nowhere and obliterates them.

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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

braxbroscratcher wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Welp, it's basically been a year since I got this game, and ever since I beat it I've been planning to do a 2nd replay during my next summer break. It just start 1-2 weeks ago, so now is the time…

I avoided as much as I could on the game after beating the 2nd DLC pack, I wanted to go this remembering as little as possible, which was hard because MAN are those videos intriguing sometimes, but how does it hold up for me 2nd time through?

Short answer: I'm honestly not really sure

Which is a weird answer for a game I consider my favorite ever, right?

It can keep that title, but I think this is caused by something pretty surprising, which is…

It's not really meant to be replayed

The Great Plateau is still an amazing tutorial, I got off of it within an hour (even after taking the wrong route and spending about 10 minutes getting back) and even got some decent weapons to charge my way through. But after that, the magic wears off. Sure, after my 7 hours so far I've found 1-2 new things that give me that feeling I once had, but Breath of the Wild lost it's one tool that made it go from good to amazing.

The ability to make you ask questions

“How can I get there?” “What is that?” “Why would this be here” “Who's that?” “Where even AM I?!” All these questions are presented to you as you play, and BotW gives you the toolset to answer them however you'd like. That's great and all, but on the 2nd playthrough you already know the answers to most of those questions. It fades away, and you find yourself secretly asking “Okay when can this be over so I can get to the fun part?”

Quoting YouTubers is generally pretty cringy, but I think this one'll help my case a lil' further.

During Alpharad's 2nd playthrough of Super Mario Odyssey (you've probably heard of it, it's only the most popular game ever basically), he said “You know, I remember seeing this for the first time and being like ‘WOAH! This is awesome’ but now I already know what's going to happen, it's lost that special feeling”

Which is exactly how I feel, still an amazing game, and the mechanics alone are fun, but it'll never be as magical again, which while it saddens me that I'll remember this game as a part of my childhood for a while knowing that I'll never be able to feel about it the same way again, it's bittersweet. It had to have been great in the first place to have me feel this and it's just a game, a great one at that
You could try doing really dumb stuff your second playthrough. Like for instance, ONLY travelling long distances with Stasis.
Aha, forgot to add that part

The problem is that, although there's the illusion that you can make the game harder, in reality it's “How tedious do you want to make things?”, especially with combat

The Great Plateau was, again, perfect for this, since the enemy AI and health in correlation to your skill and arsenal were great. Sure, killing that red Bokoblin might almost break your weapon, but you get a new one, and killing that blue one may take 3 weapons before you finally kill it, but you get an even better weapon in return. Unfortunately later in the game (in fact, right after you jump off the Great Plateau) that balance has been ruined. Enemies don't get any new attacks as they become more difficult and become meat shields, and you break 2 good weapons to just get one mediocre one and maybe a couple of rupees worth of stuff?

You can limit yourself to stuff such as having only 3 hearts but in reality it'd just turn the game into a monster sized game of tag where you just run away every time in hope of survival instead of engaging in the combat

Plus the other challenges (limiting yourself to certain kinds of food, the Stasis thing), are essentially just annoying and require you to grind for things or spend more time than need be to get a certain thing done. The point would be for it to be more challenging or present a new skill ceiling, rather than have something take more time for the sake of taking more time
fine, no bows. use only stasis objects for ranged combat. You can use bows to hit objects in stasis, or create fires for updrafts, but you can't direct hit enemies with arrows. It's really funny anyway when you come by and see a fight, and then you just stand there as a crate comes out of nowhere and obliterates them.
I totally understand the “loses its magic” thing. I haven't done a second playthrough, but I know if I did, I would constantly think “well the first time I did this” over and over again, and I think it would kind of kill the vibe.

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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

also, SO HAPPY they're releasing the art book in the US

PICHU IN SMASH WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild *Spoiler Warning*

go88 wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

braxbroscratcher wrote:

-ColorMaster- wrote:

Welp, it's basically been a year since I got this game, and ever since I beat it I've been planning to do a 2nd replay during my next summer break. It just start 1-2 weeks ago, so now is the time…

I avoided as much as I could on the game after beating the 2nd DLC pack, I wanted to go this remembering as little as possible, which was hard because MAN are those videos intriguing sometimes, but how does it hold up for me 2nd time through?

Short answer: I'm honestly not really sure

Which is a weird answer for a game I consider my favorite ever, right?

It can keep that title, but I think this is caused by something pretty surprising, which is…

It's not really meant to be replayed

The Great Plateau is still an amazing tutorial, I got off of it within an hour (even after taking the wrong route and spending about 10 minutes getting back) and even got some decent weapons to charge my way through. But after that, the magic wears off. Sure, after my 7 hours so far I've found 1-2 new things that give me that feeling I once had, but Breath of the Wild lost it's one tool that made it go from good to amazing.

The ability to make you ask questions

“How can I get there?” “What is that?” “Why would this be here” “Who's that?” “Where even AM I?!” All these questions are presented to you as you play, and BotW gives you the toolset to answer them however you'd like. That's great and all, but on the 2nd playthrough you already know the answers to most of those questions. It fades away, and you find yourself secretly asking “Okay when can this be over so I can get to the fun part?”

Quoting YouTubers is generally pretty cringy, but I think this one'll help my case a lil' further.

During Alpharad's 2nd playthrough of Super Mario Odyssey (you've probably heard of it, it's only the most popular game ever basically), he said “You know, I remember seeing this for the first time and being like ‘WOAH! This is awesome’ but now I already know what's going to happen, it's lost that special feeling”

Which is exactly how I feel, still an amazing game, and the mechanics alone are fun, but it'll never be as magical again, which while it saddens me that I'll remember this game as a part of my childhood for a while knowing that I'll never be able to feel about it the same way again, it's bittersweet. It had to have been great in the first place to have me feel this and it's just a game, a great one at that
You could try doing really dumb stuff your second playthrough. Like for instance, ONLY travelling long distances with Stasis.
Aha, forgot to add that part

The problem is that, although there's the illusion that you can make the game harder, in reality it's “How tedious do you want to make things?”, especially with combat

The Great Plateau was, again, perfect for this, since the enemy AI and health in correlation to your skill and arsenal were great. Sure, killing that red Bokoblin might almost break your weapon, but you get a new one, and killing that blue one may take 3 weapons before you finally kill it, but you get an even better weapon in return. Unfortunately later in the game (in fact, right after you jump off the Great Plateau) that balance has been ruined. Enemies don't get any new attacks as they become more difficult and become meat shields, and you break 2 good weapons to just get one mediocre one and maybe a couple of rupees worth of stuff?

You can limit yourself to stuff such as having only 3 hearts but in reality it'd just turn the game into a monster sized game of tag where you just run away every time in hope of survival instead of engaging in the combat

Plus the other challenges (limiting yourself to certain kinds of food, the Stasis thing), are essentially just annoying and require you to grind for things or spend more time than need be to get a certain thing done. The point would be for it to be more challenging or present a new skill ceiling, rather than have something take more time for the sake of taking more time
fine, no bows. use only stasis objects for ranged combat. You can use bows to hit objects in stasis, or create fires for updrafts, but you can't direct hit enemies with arrows. It's really funny anyway when you come by and see a fight, and then you just stand there as a crate comes out of nowhere and obliterates them.
I totally understand the “loses its magic” thing. I haven't done a second playthrough, but I know if I did, I would constantly think “well the first time I did this” over and over again, and I think it would kind of kill the vibe.
Exactly, just not a game meant to be played over again, which is fine in it's own right and doesn't detract from what it was

Some games seem to be meant to be played over, commonly because they're meant to just be plain fun instead of meaning something. Shovel Knight: Specter of Torment is a great example for this. After your first time it can be beaten in an afternoon and it's still just as fun every time because the movement and level design are the fun parts. Games based of surprises (still a great tactic), which is essentially every RPG (not JRPG, I'm just meaning games like Zelda and all that) uses are going to suffer because of that. It builds a better first time but a worse second time, in a way

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