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jokebookservice1
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card100 wrote:

jokebookservice1 wrote:

card100 wrote:

herohamp wrote:

6 months later, and no open source
I'm iFraming it
But CORS will be a problem for you when you try and find out what the user has made? Unless you just want them to download and then reupload the project?

Also, I think you might need to ask blob's permission.
1. That is a problem to address later…
2. I did and if they say know I will take tosh off of it.
You shouldn't be assuming consent, instead you should ask - then do.
card100
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jokebookservice1 wrote:

card100 wrote:

jokebookservice1 wrote:

card100 wrote:

herohamp wrote:

6 months later, and no open source
I'm iFraming it
But CORS will be a problem for you when you try and find out what the user has made? Unless you just want them to download and then reupload the project?

Also, I think you might need to ask blob's permission.
1. That is a problem to address later…
2. I did and if they say know I will take tosh off of it.
You shouldn't be assuming consent, instead you should ask - then do.
I like to assume. Plus I'm only iframing it. I'm not hosting the code myself.
I sent an email to blob8108 so hopefully they give an answer.

Last edited by card100 (Dec. 21, 2016 17:01:51)


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JonathanSchaffer
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bump

do you like siri, alexa, cortana, or google assistant, but can't buy an iphone, echo, or google home?

then try alice!

alice is a wonderful virtual assistant that works on linux and is tested on raspberry pi*
she can play music, search online, answer questions, tell jokes, give you the date and time, and plenty of other things

*you may need to install additional software like python 2, libttspico-utils, and timidity
-Io-
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JonathanSchaffer wrote:

bump
Why the bump?

JonathanSchaffer
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-Io- wrote:

JonathanSchaffer wrote:

bump
Why the bump?
this topic was on the third page.

do you like siri, alexa, cortana, or google assistant, but can't buy an iphone, echo, or google home?

then try alice!

alice is a wonderful virtual assistant that works on linux and is tested on raspberry pi*
she can play music, search online, answer questions, tell jokes, give you the date and time, and plenty of other things

*you may need to install additional software like python 2, libttspico-utils, and timidity
-Io-
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JonathanSchaffer wrote:

-Io- wrote:

JonathanSchaffer wrote:

bump
Why the bump?
this topic was on the third page.
There's no need to bump topics that are/could be active, they won't be closed or anything, don't worry

nanalan
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-Io- wrote:

There's no need to bump topics that are/could be active, they won't be closed or anything, don't worry

Still, we all want need blob to open source tosh pls

some
BODY
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mobluse
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My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 55.0.2883.87, Flash 24.0 (release 0)

I would like to report some issues with Tosh, but I still think it's a very useful and important program.

`a is shown in the editor as à, ´a as á, ¨a as ä, but the strings work as they should (I use Swedish keyboard).

When you loaded “filename (4)” and saves, it becomes “filename (4) (1)” instead of “filename (5)”.

If you accidentally enter an infinit loop, you can often not stop, and after a while you get a message from Chrome about closing the tab or wait. To wait doesn't help. If you hadn't saved before you lose your changes to the file.

There should be some keyboard shortcuts for Yes, No, and All when searching. Now, you have to reach for your mouse.

One should be able to show or hide variables while running.
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A procedure-argument should have priority as an r-value if it has the same name as a variable.

When you mark text and press ‘“’, the marked text is not replaced by the double quote, but is still there.

When you save a file with an empty variable-watcher in Tosh and load again in Scratch, it is shown as zero ('0').

Sometimes when you delete a variable the variable-watchers are still there, but it says ”unknown var: …". You have to go into the JSON-file and edit.

If I chose Open and load a file, sometimes the contents is not updated. I have to reload Tosh.

Last edited by mobluse (Dec. 31, 2016 13:01:01)


nanalan
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mobluse wrote:

When you loaded “filename (4)” and and saves it becomes “filename (4) (1)” instead of “filename (5)”.
That's out of tosh (or any website)'s scope. Filenames are handled by your browser - file an issue with the Chromium authors.

some
BODY
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Jonathan50
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jokebookservice1 wrote:

And no, modifications of the Scratch Source Code are subject to the same non-profit licence. However, tosh uses no code from Scratch.
No, the GNU General Public License allows you to sell programs under it and doesn't allow you to stop others from doing so (the FSF, authors of the GPL, consider software you can't sell non-free).

Edit: as long as it's clear your customers how to get the source for the software your selling.

Last edited by Jonathan50 (Jan. 3, 2017 22:47:35)

blob8108
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minor tosh update: the web app now uses an unpatched version of Phosphorus, which means I can more easily incorporate fixes Nathan makes.



tosh · slowly becoming a grown-up adult and very confused about it
mobluse
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I have discovered another issue. If you download the project and_or, and then open it in Tosh, it won't run correctly because Tosh seems to replace some single character procedure names with “_1”.

This projects also seems to use some custom blocks, but they can be fixed to standard Scratch by e.g.:
add <~A = “true” and ~B = “true”> to DATA STACK
add <~A = “true” or ~B = “true”> to DATA STACK

I would prefer if you can have the same variable names in Tosh as you can in Scratch, e.g. <, =, >, +, -, *, /, and “ should be possible names of procedures. If this is not possible they should be converted to e.g. .LT., .EQ., .GT., .ADD., .SUB., .MUL., .DIV., and .DQ. (inspired by FORTRAN).

I changed one procedure so that it could be used in Phosphorus:
define-atomic .
set ~A to item last of DATA STACK
delete last of DATA STACK
replace item last of OUTPUT with (join (item last of OUTPUT) (~A))
say ~A for 2 secs
say ”" for 0.5 secs

My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 55.0.2883.87, Flash 24.0 (release 0)

Last edited by mobluse (Jan. 21, 2017 18:01:28)


mobluse
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I have discovered another problem related to Tosh. When I upload a project saved with Tosh to Scratch some procedures are undefined. The procedures are missing in More Blocks and in the code the procedure heads are replaced by red undefined blocks.

I have a project here that demonstrates the bug:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/140624215

The working project with the same version as above is here:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/141180588/

One can reproduce the bug by downloading the working project, open it in Tosh https://tosh.tjvr.org/app/ , delete a character, enter it again, save the project, and then upload it to Scratch.MIT.EDU.

I have manually fixed the project in Scratch and have prefixes for procedures and variables in different Sprites so no procedure or variable has the same name as another. The fixed project is here:
https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/137676871/
This renaming doesn't solve this bug. It's always the same procedures that disappears.

I have studied the project.json-file Tosh produces for one of the disappearing functions:
[[“procDef”,“_ask”,[null],[null],false]
and compared with what Scratch Online produces:
[[“procDef”, “_ask”, [], [], false]
All disappearing functions have "[null]“.

I hope this bug gets fixed soon because it's very tedious to have to manually fix the project on Scratch.MIT.EDU each time you upload a new version. I could write a program that fixes it by replacing all ”[null]“ with ”[]".

My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 55.0.2883.87, Flash 24.0 (release 0)

Last edited by mobluse (Jan. 21, 2017 22:44:01)


mobluse
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I've found another issue with Tosh: when I use
([_shift v] of [Keyboard v])
I need to include a variable _shift also in the current sprite, Thread, otherwise I can't save or run. It seems to work when running.

My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 55.0.2883.87, Flash 24.0 (release 0)

Last edited by mobluse (Jan. 22, 2017 21:41:00)


bobbybee
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Shameless self-promotion: If anyone wants an example of a large project managed with tosh, https://github.com/bobbybee/ScratchNES might be of interest. Maybe not; it's not a very *good* project :-)

“Ooo, can I call you Señorita Bee?” ~Chibi-Matoran
Jonathan50
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mobluse wrote:

I've found another issue with Tosh: when I use
([_shift v] of [Keyboard v])
I need to include a variable _shift also in the current sprite, Thread, otherwise I can't save or run. It seems to work when running.

My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 55.0.2883.87, Flash 24.0 (release 0)
Try putting quotation marks around “_shift”?
mobluse
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Jonathan50 wrote:

mobluse wrote:

I've found another issue with Tosh: when I use
([_shift v] of [Keyboard v])
I need to include a variable _shift also in the current sprite, Thread, otherwise I can't save or run. It seems to work when running.

My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 55.0.2883.87, Flash 24.0 (release 0)
Try putting quotation marks around “_shift”?
I tried that and parenthesis, but it only worked when I defined a sprite-variable with the same name as the sprite-variable in the other sprite. I came up with another way that is better, so I now longer need this, but I thought I should report the bug.

gtoal
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bobbybee wrote:

Shameless self-promotion: If anyone wants an example of a large project managed with tosh, https://github.com/bobbybee/ScratchNES might be of interest. Maybe not; it's not a very *good* project :-)
Given the way you've managed the emulation into separate files per instruction/addressing mode, you might consider using them as templates for a static binary translator instead of an emulator. It could double the emulation speed if you're lucky. Just pick your ROM carefully. (no self-modifying code etc)

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bobbybee
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gtoal wrote:

bobbybee wrote:

Shameless self-promotion: If anyone wants an example of a large project managed with tosh, https://github.com/bobbybee/ScratchNES might be of interest. Maybe not; it's not a very *good* project :-)
Given the way you've managed the emulation into separate files per instruction/addressing mode, you might consider using them as templates for a static binary translator instead of an emulator. It could double the emulation speed if you're lucky. Just pick your ROM carefully. (no self-modifying code etc)

G
Static recompilation for the NES has some… interesting challenges. http://andrewkelley.me/post/jamulator.html explored this in great detail, although a few of his challenges are not so; see my response: https://rosenzweig.io/solving-bit-magic.html

“Ooo, can I call you Señorita Bee?” ~Chibi-Matoran

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