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learnegy
Scratcher
100+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

I was working with some students today (ages 6-8) in a brief Scratch 2 focus group and noticed that many of them assumed the right-click -> delete feature would delete only the selected block. To their surprise (or dismay) it actually removed all of the blocks underneath as well. This was upsetting to some of them that had worked quite a bit through the example project and had no way to undo the delete.

To make things clearer for beginners, I would suggest splitting the right-click -> delete functionality into the following options:
  • “delete this block”
  • “delete this and all connected blocks”

Also, I plan to do a few more focus groups, if there is anything else you would like me to test, let me know. Thanks.

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botcrusher
Scratcher
500+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

They can just go edit> undelete…

Pondering what to work on.
Jimbobblue
Scratcher
3 posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

These are 6-8 year olds, I doubt they know where all of the buttons are/what they do
I agree, Learnegy, it does seem like something that would be good. Myself I haven't noticed this as I usually just separate out the block and drag it back into the blocks tab, but it's probably quite annoying for a lot of people.
learnegy
Scratcher
100+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

botcrusher wrote:

They can just go edit> undelete…
Ah… Didn't even notice that. Young children, especially, need a very visible “Undo” arrow. I need one to apparently . The same undo button should work in both the code editor and paint editor.

Jimbobblue wrote:

These are 6-8 year olds, I doubt they know where all of the buttons are/what they do
Exactly! They (myself included) were looking for an “Undo” arrow like the one in the paint editor or Ctrl-Z.

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adamtgray
New to Scratch
1 post

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

You don't have to be six years old to hate this.

If I put my mouse on a single selection, I expect action on that single selection. If I ctl-click or shift-click, i expect to expand my selection. It's enough that I think this tool is of almost no value. The editor is one thing that really needs to be correct, or the debugging exercise is just ruined - thoughts and intentions are interrupted by the very semantics and syntax nonsense the tool seeks to simplify. Maybe I'm missing something, but since this is not addressed in help, tips, or any other guide I can find, it seems like it's something the user is supposed to just ‘deal with’. meh.
Scattergun
New to Scratch
1 post

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

Unfortunately, no one here mentions HOW TO actually just remove the single block in question. So, when I and millions of others search for how to delete a single block in Scratch they will find this thread and be no closer to an answer.
LIVE_TV
Scratcher
6 posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

If you accidentally delete something (e.g. a piece of script, sprite, etc.), just go to the tool bar on the top of the project screen, and then click on the “Edit” drop down menu. There should be an option to undelete or undo your last action, but this does not work multiple times (only once and then doesn't work until you do another action). Keep in mind that you also can't leave the project, come back to it, and then expect it to still undo an action before you left.
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

You can move all blocks underneath, remove that block, and put the blocks back.

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TheRealNetherBefore
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

Semi support, the workaround is easy, and I'd probably still use it out of habit, but it makes sense to have a feature like this.

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Botcho_Otkho
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

Scattergun wrote:

Unfortunately, no one here mentions HOW TO actually just remove the single block in question. So, when I and millions of others search for how to delete a single block in Scratch they will find this thread and be no closer to an answer.
Of course, since it's a suggestion, not a question. Nothing in this thread has been made wrong.

Last edited by Botcho_Otkho (Sept. 9, 2018 13:00:03)


CONSIDER READING THIS, PLEASE:
Don't write things someone already said. It's useless.
If you want to point a duplicate, please don't write just “Duplicate” when you don't have the link. At least say that you can't do it because -reasons-. Writing it and then going away does not help.
Don't write “I agree”, “this” or just quote without adding something constructive. It doesn't help.
No supporting because “you can do this elsewhere” is not a valid reason. If it was, the suggestion forum wouldn't exist because you can do everything elsewhere.
A simple workaround is not, never was and will never be a reason to no-support a suggestion. There are plenty of blocks with simple workarounds in Scratch right now, and there's a reason if the ST still added them.
No supporting because “it can turn into a competition” is not a reason, since it can happen everywhere (such as follows). Post count: 1900+
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

Scattergun wrote:

Unfortunately, no one here mentions HOW TO actually just remove the single block in question. So, when I and millions of others search for how to delete a single block in Scratch they will find this thread and be no closer to an answer.
Of course, since it's a suggestion, not a question. Nothing in this thread has been made wrong.
I have said how to do it…

I would be perfectly fine listing all the featured creators going to Vidcon 2019
Botcho_Otkho
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

Scattergun wrote:

Unfortunately, no one here mentions HOW TO actually just remove the single block in question. So, when I and millions of others search for how to delete a single block in Scratch they will find this thread and be no closer to an answer.
Of course, since it's a suggestion, not a question. Nothing in this thread has been made wrong.
I have said how to do it…
That was posted before your post.

Last edited by Botcho_Otkho (Sept. 9, 2018 14:24:30)


CONSIDER READING THIS, PLEASE:
Don't write things someone already said. It's useless.
If you want to point a duplicate, please don't write just “Duplicate” when you don't have the link. At least say that you can't do it because -reasons-. Writing it and then going away does not help.
Don't write “I agree”, “this” or just quote without adding something constructive. It doesn't help.
No supporting because “you can do this elsewhere” is not a valid reason. If it was, the suggestion forum wouldn't exist because you can do everything elsewhere.
A simple workaround is not, never was and will never be a reason to no-support a suggestion. There are plenty of blocks with simple workarounds in Scratch right now, and there's a reason if the ST still added them.
No supporting because “it can turn into a competition” is not a reason, since it can happen everywhere (such as follows). Post count: 1900+
TheAdriCoolManDude
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Option to delete a single block instead of all connected [from Scratch 2 focus group]

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

TheAdriCoolManDude wrote:

Botcho_Otkho wrote:

Scattergun wrote:

Unfortunately, no one here mentions HOW TO actually just remove the single block in question. So, when I and millions of others search for how to delete a single block in Scratch they will find this thread and be no closer to an answer.
Of course, since it's a suggestion, not a question. Nothing in this thread has been made wrong.
I have said how to do it…
That was posted before your post.
I know, I was just saying.

I would be perfectly fine listing all the featured creators going to Vidcon 2019

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