Whiskers: Scratch 2.0 for Incompatible Devices

SimpleScratch

And this is why this project is so important
http://twitter.com/scratch/status/677501577691840516

Reliable T'internet is just not here yet - too many variables (from local LAN faults - ISP - T'internet itself - end service provider faults)

The worst that can happen in a school when running local programs is single faults on individual machines.

Offline Scatch 2 suffers from being based on Air (which isn't stable from one week to another) - Whiskers could be the saviour of Scratch in schools

Simon

NoMod-Programming

Just releasing a new image of development:

Remember… Just click to see a larger version

I've been testing out a new and improved sound editor (and recorder), and I'm halfway through the new image editor (or at least the UI).

This is what it looks like when I'm programming Whiskers:

Long-since moved on from Scratch, if you need to find all my posts, search this in google: 3499447a51c01fc4dc1e8c3b8182b41cb0e88c67

NoMod-Programming

Bold
Underline
My
Post

Long-since moved on from Scratch, if you need to find all my posts, search this in google: 3499447a51c01fc4dc1e8c3b8182b41cb0e88c67

infinitytec

How's the big update coming?

Not here much, but sometimes I lurk.
God has a plan. He has a plan for everything, and everyone.

NoMod-Programming

infinitytec wrote:
How's the big update coming?

Good… I'm nearly done. The sound editor is finished, and the image editor is nearly done! Then, I need to add project recording in another update.

MERRY CHRISTMAS/HAPPY HOLIDAYS

Long-since moved on from Scratch, if you need to find all my posts, search this in google: 3499447a51c01fc4dc1e8c3b8182b41cb0e88c67

infinitytec

NoMod-Programming wrote:
infinitytec wrote:
How's the big update coming?
Good… I'm nearly done. The sound editor is finished, and the image editor is nearly done! Then, I need to add project recording in another update.

MERRY CHRISTMAS/HAPPY HOLIDAYS

Great! Glad to hear it!

Not here much, but sometimes I lurk.
God has a plan. He has a plan for everything, and everyone.

liam48D

NoMod-Programming wrote:
infinitytec wrote:
How's the big update coming?
Good… I'm nearly done. The sound editor is finished, and the image editor is nearly done! Then, I need to add project recording in another update.

MERRY CHRISTMAS/HAPPY HOLIDAYS

Awesome! Merry Christmas, and happy holidays.

202e-202e-202e-202e-202e UNI-CODE~~~~~

-Io-

NoMod-Programming wrote:
infinitytec wrote:
How's the big update coming?
Good… I'm nearly done. The sound editor is finished, and the image editor is nearly done! Then, I need to add project recording in another update.

MERRY CHRISTMAS/HAPPY HOLIDAYS

I'm really looking forward to the final project. It's so awesome.

jandrewg

NoMod-Programming wrote:
Once upon a time…
I was once using scratch 2.0, and my internet connection broke. I lost all my work and I didn't use the offline editor because it was too glitchy. I decided that nobody should be forced to use a very buggy version of Scratch compared to the stable 1.4. I got to work on whiskers.

Here is a demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P67v0l5Mhgk

I have added most of the blocks from Scratch 2.0 (except for the days since 2000 block and custom blocks)

Download it here: https://goo.gl/VijH66
A bleeding-edge version (with a .changes file) will be available here: Clicky
Raspberry pi topic is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=124954
Remember that this is ALPHA software. It is very buggy (if someone can help me with the issues with some buttons not working, I would be grateful)
To enable Dev mode, shift click the edit menu…
My development schedule for the next two months will be available here

Cool! I have a Raspberry Pi! I will try it now.

Last edited by jandrewg (Dec. 28, 2015 16:28:53)

My old sig has broken

My Platforming Games: Water - a Platforming Game | Water 2 - a Platforming Game

jandrewg

NoMod-Programming wrote:
Once upon a time…
I was once using scratch 2.0, and my internet connection broke. I lost all my work and I didn't use the offline editor because it was too glitchy. I decided that nobody should be forced to use a very buggy version of Scratch compared to the stable 1.4. I got to work on whiskers.

Here is a demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P67v0l5Mhgk

I have added most of the blocks from Scratch 2.0 (except for the days since 2000 block and custom blocks)

Download it here: https://goo.gl/VijH66
A bleeding-edge version (with a .changes file) will be available here: Clicky
Raspberry pi topic is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=124954
Remember that this is ALPHA software. It is very buggy (if someone can help me with the issues with some buttons not working, I would be grateful)
To enable Dev mode, shift click the edit menu…
My development schedule for the next two months will be available here

Nevermind

Last edited by jandrewg (Dec. 29, 2015 16:36:10)

My old sig has broken

My Platforming Games: Water - a Platforming Game | Water 2 - a Platforming Game

jandrewg

NoMod-Programming wrote:
Once upon a time…
I was once using scratch 2.0, and my internet connection broke. I lost all my work and I didn't use the offline editor because it was too glitchy. I decided that nobody should be forced to use a very buggy version of Scratch compared to the stable 1.4. I got to work on whiskers.

Here is a demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P67v0l5Mhgk

I have added most of the blocks from Scratch 2.0 (except for the days since 2000 block and custom blocks)

Download it here: https://goo.gl/VijH66
A bleeding-edge version (with a .changes file) will be available here: Clicky
Raspberry pi topic is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=124954
Remember that this is ALPHA software. It is very buggy (if someone can help me with the issues with some buttons not working, I would be grateful)
To enable Dev mode, shift click the edit menu…
My development schedule for the next two months will be available here

On a Pi, will it replace Scratch 1.4?

My old sig has broken

My Platforming Games: Water - a Platforming Game | Water 2 - a Platforming Game

-Io-

jandrewg wrote:
NoMod-Programming wrote:
Once upon a time…
I was once using scratch 2.0, and my internet connection broke. I lost all my work and I didn't use the offline editor because it was too glitchy. I decided that nobody should be forced to use a very buggy version of Scratch compared to the stable 1.4. I got to work on whiskers.

Here is a demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P67v0l5Mhgk

I have added most of the blocks from Scratch 2.0 (except for the days since 2000 block and custom blocks)

Download it here: https://goo.gl/VijH66
A bleeding-edge version (with a .changes file) will be available here: Clicky
Raspberry pi topic is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=124954
Remember that this is ALPHA software. It is very buggy (if someone can help me with the issues with some buttons not working, I would be grateful)
To enable Dev mode, shift click the edit menu…
My development schedule for the next two months will be available here
On a Pi, will it replace Scratch 1.4?

This is not an official Scratch rewrite so it most probably will not replace 1.4. This is just a mod based on the 1.4 version of Scratch planning to be a full rewrite of the current 2.0 version in Squeak, the software Scratch 1.x was made in. This way, OSes that don't support Flash, like the one the Pi uses, can use the 2.0 version.

NoMod-Programming

-Io- wrote:
jandrewg wrote:
NoMod-Programming wrote:
Once upon a time…
I was once using scratch 2.0, and my internet connection broke. I lost all my work and I didn't use the offline editor because it was too glitchy. I decided that nobody should be forced to use a very buggy version of Scratch compared to the stable 1.4. I got to work on whiskers.

Here is a demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P67v0l5Mhgk

I have added most of the blocks from Scratch 2.0 (except for the days since 2000 block and custom blocks)

Download it here: https://goo.gl/VijH66
A bleeding-edge version (with a .changes file) will be available here: Clicky
Raspberry pi topic is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=124954
Remember that this is ALPHA software. It is very buggy (if someone can help me with the issues with some buttons not working, I would be grateful)
To enable Dev mode, shift click the edit menu…
My development schedule for the next two months will be available here
On a Pi, will it replace Scratch 1.4?
This is not an official Scratch rewrite so it most probably will not replace 1.4. This is just a mod based on the 1.4 version of Scratch planning to be a full rewrite of the current 2.0 version in Squeak, the software Scratch 1.x was made in. This way, OSes that don't support Flash, like the one the Pi uses, can use the 2.0 version.

Yes. Can I use your explanation in the OP?

Long-since moved on from Scratch, if you need to find all my posts, search this in google: 3499447a51c01fc4dc1e8c3b8182b41cb0e88c67

-Io-

NoMod-Programming wrote:
-Io- wrote:
jandrewg wrote:
NoMod-Programming wrote:
Once upon a time…
I was once using scratch 2.0, and my internet connection broke. I lost all my work and I didn't use the offline editor because it was too glitchy. I decided that nobody should be forced to use a very buggy version of Scratch compared to the stable 1.4. I got to work on whiskers.

Here is a demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P67v0l5Mhgk

I have added most of the blocks from Scratch 2.0 (except for the days since 2000 block and custom blocks)

Download it here: https://goo.gl/VijH66
A bleeding-edge version (with a .changes file) will be available here: Clicky
Raspberry pi topic is here: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=77&t=124954
Remember that this is ALPHA software. It is very buggy (if someone can help me with the issues with some buttons not working, I would be grateful)
To enable Dev mode, shift click the edit menu…
My development schedule for the next two months will be available here
On a Pi, will it replace Scratch 1.4?
This is not an official Scratch rewrite so it most probably will not replace 1.4. This is just a mod based on the 1.4 version of Scratch planning to be a full rewrite of the current 2.0 version in Squeak, the software Scratch 1.x was made in. This way, OSes that don't support Flash, like the one the Pi uses, can use the 2.0 version.
Yes. Can I use your explanation in the OP?

Sure!

NoMod-Programming

EmeraldOre21 wrote:
Dude thats epic! When did u learn to program? I just started about 8 months ago! I know how to hack and stuff but for me it takes a pretty long time, even though i know stuff other ppl dont its still hard. I know how to do it its just to long of a time…. I BET UR PROJECTS R EPIC THO!

Thank you! I'm flattered.I learned to program about a year and a half ago, but it was mostly subconsciously. I would browse topics on the ATs and Stackoverflow while I was bored, and I guess I picked up a few tricks along the way. Still, the only reason this project moves so fast is because I devoted a lot of time to it (>300 hours so far). I'm sure anyone could do this if they had the time. (Also, if you're new to programming, try making a website. It helped me understand a bit of some coding syntaxes, especially JS!)

Long-since moved on from Scratch, if you need to find all my posts, search this in google: 3499447a51c01fc4dc1e8c3b8182b41cb0e88c67

NoMod-Programming

Ok… I've updated the OP with installation instructions for each OS, as well as a few pointers on how to make mods based on Whiskers and a list of blocks I added.

Long-since moved on from Scratch, if you need to find all my posts, search this in google: 3499447a51c01fc4dc1e8c3b8182b41cb0e88c67

SimpleScratch

noticed on spulling mistook

/urs/bin/whiskers instead of /usr/bin/whiskers

And I'd recommend for windows, just renaming your Scratch.image to Whiskers.image and placing it in Scratch 1.4 folder and creating shortcut to it so that “proper” Scratch 1.4

still available

Simon

NoMod-Programming

SimpleScratch wrote:
noticed on spulling mistook

/urs/bin/whiskers instead of /usr/bin/whiskers

And I'd recommend for windows, just renaming your Scratch.image to Whiskers.image and placing it in Scratch 1.4 folder and creating shortcut to it so that “proper” Scratch 1.4 still available

Simon

1: Fixed
2: I've noticed that this sometimes brings up an an open file dialog when opening Whiskers. I might need to build a standalone installer. Same thing for mac.

Long-since moved on from Scratch, if you need to find all my posts, search this in google: 3499447a51c01fc4dc1e8c3b8182b41cb0e88c67

SimpleScratch

Not noticed an issue on my Win10 machine

NoMod-Programming

OK… I've just received my raspberry pi yesterday. It's all set up and I've installed Whiskers. It runs very slow (Especially when I change categories), I think that I might port it to NuScratch sooner than I've expected. For now, though, I need to finish the paint editor (I was waiting for the pi so I could compare the speed differences between the paint editors)

Long-since moved on from Scratch, if you need to find all my posts, search this in google: 3499447a51c01fc4dc1e8c3b8182b41cb0e88c67

Discuss Scratch