I've been working on a project and I have seen that there is a missing Sound block.

slur to ( v) for () beats::sound

For anybody who doesn't know what slurring is, I am a trombonist, so I'm glad to explain.
Slurring is a combination of 2 notes, then it makes it ONE note instead of two.
For example…

when [space v] key pressed
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
slur to (52 v) for (0.5) beats::sound
slur to (58 v) for (0.5) beats::sound

will make a really long note that begins on A♯ then it slides down to an E and back up to an A♯.
I hope this gets accepted.
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Support but you must be clear on what “slur” means.

Can't you just use the beats?

PhysicsWhizz wrote:

Can't you just use the beats?

No, PhysicsWhizz. I can't use them or else there would be gaps in EVERY note.

25% Support. I don't think it's worth it THAT much.

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Support for Glissando too.

Eh, support. What I find annoying is that there's a 0.1 second gap between each note that can't really be fixed.

We should add other notations in music too! SUPPORT

OK, I know what slurring means (since I know music). And it would be great to add it (but slurring sound doesn't make sense using piano or guitar voice)

SUPPORT.

Instead of *Bee bur bor* (going down?)
it would be *Beeuor* (transition)

So like smoothly transitioning notes? I'm not sure how it would work it 2.0 (though 1.0-4 would probably just a MIDI) but support, but only for certain instruments.

DrKat123 wrote:

OK, I know what slurring means (since I know music). And it would be great to add it (but slurring sound doesn't make sense using piano or guitar voice)

In piano it just means you play legato. I don't know for guitar though…

I like the idea but I feel like it would need a different name!

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

101% support, but is this different depending on the instrument? I play the piano, and slurred, or “legato” notes, are just notes played smoother together. Whereas ties are the same note played without lifting your hand or finger, so basically all one note, often used to make the notes cross over bar lines between measures, or to make notes, for example, two and a half beats long. Is a slur different on a trombone? Although I guess those are pretty similar…
Sorry if some of that was a bit unneccesary…

cheddargirl wrote:

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

Just one question, does scratch uses midi ?

DrKat123 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

Just one question, does scratch uses midi ?

Scratch 1.x did.

@cheddargirl - I know that in piano, a slur means to play that piece of notes in legato (smooth, connected). So, you have several note blocks:

play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats

Usually, there is a small gap in between each note. What a slur would do is it would join the notes together, in a smooth transition between the two notes. I would rather see it implemented as a C-block like this:

slur :: sound cstart
play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats
end

To me, it makes more sense this way.

However, this is how I would suggest it to work, not INSANITYKID101's way.

CatsUnited wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

Just one question, does scratch uses midi ?

Scratch 1.x did.

@cheddargirl - I know that in piano, a slur means to play that piece of notes in legato (smooth, connected). So, you have several note blocks:

play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats

Usually, there is a small gap in between each note. What a slur would do is it would join the notes together, in a smooth transition between the two notes. I would rather see it implemented as a C-block like this:

slur :: sound cstart
play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats
end

To me, it makes more sense this way.

However, this is how I would suggest it to work, not INSANITYKID101's way.

ok, let me explain it again: (copied from a Wikipedia page. read more here)

In music performance and notation, legato (Italian for “tied together”) indicates that musical notes are played or sung smoothly and connected. That is, the player transitions from note to note with no intervening silence. Legato technique is required for slurred performance, but unlike slurring (as that term is interpreted for some instruments), legato does not forbid rearticulation. Standard notation indicates legato either with the word legato, or by a slur (a curved line) under notes that form one legato group. Legato, like staccato, is a kind of articulation. There is an intermediate articulation called either mezzo staccato or non-legato (sometimes referred to as “portato”).

the “slur”: (original page)

A slur is a symbol in Western musical notation indicating that the notes it embraces are to be played without separation, i.e. with legato articulation. A slur is denoted with a curved line generally placed over the notes if the stems point downward, and under them if the stems point upwards.

For bowed string instruments, the notes should be played in one bow.
For guitars, the notes should be played without plucking the individual strings (hammer-ons and pull-offs).
For wind instruments, the notes should be played without rearticulating each note (tonguing).
For vocal music, slurs are usually used to mark notes which are sung to a single syllable (melisma).

ok for the violin and bowed instrument my violin (and piano) teacher already explained it to me. so @INSANITYKID101 means glissando ? but without steps, so like uuuuuuuuuuuuup and ddddddddddddown (not upupupupupuupupup or downdowndwndowndown)

CatsUnited wrote:

DrKat123 wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

Well, I see all support for the suggestion, but no good idea on how to implement it. Anyone have an idea on how to incorporate note slurring given the currently way the note blocks work in Scratch 2.0?

Just one question, does scratch uses midi ?

Scratch 1.x did.

@cheddargirl - I know that in piano, a slur means to play that piece of notes in legato (smooth, connected). So, you have several note blocks:

play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats

Usually, there is a small gap in between each note. What a slur would do is it would join the notes together, in a smooth transition between the two notes. I would rather see it implemented as a C-block like this:

slur :: sound cstart
play note (60 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (58 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (56 v) for (0.5) beats
play note (54 v) for (0.5) beats
end

To me, it makes more sense this way.

However, this is how I would suggest it to work, not INSANITYKID101's way.

Legato in piano does not necessarily mean filling in the gaps with other notes. It just means playing them connected, and not staccato.