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Chainmanner
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A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

cheddargirl wrote:

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

EllaBellaZue wrote:

mopar wrote:

This should help things:
Recolours are permitted by law in every country because every project posted on Scratch is under the Creative Commons license. The only way to revoke this license is to remove the project from Scratch. The user has in no way forced the named parties off the site, and anyone is within their rights to recolour as they wish. Following around recolourers and nagging them is wrong (maybe classed as stalking if you please), and recolourers are within their right to recolour.

It's nnice to here your opinion , and you should check this out , it explains the creative commons license and as well as many other things. https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/71009618/
That's an anti-recolor project. It doesn't explain the CC license correctly.

What about https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/70362686/ ?
Same thing.
So that's why it was marked NFE?
Yep. But we're thinking about taking a harder stance (ie, censor instead of NFE) since they make those who do recolors feel unwelcome.
I doubt that much force is necessary. Besides, it might be best to keep them so we hear everybody's arguments.
mopar
Scratcher
14 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

EllaBellaZue wrote:

PrincessPanda_test_ wrote:

cheddargirl wrote:

EllaBellaZue wrote:

mopar wrote:

This should help things:
Recolours are permitted by law in every country because every project posted on Scratch is under the Creative Commons license. The only way to revoke this license is to remove the project from Scratch. The user has in no way forced the named parties off the site, and anyone is within their rights to recolour as they wish. Following around recolourers and nagging them is wrong (maybe classed as stalking if you please), and recolourers are within their right to recolour.

It's nnice to here your opinion , and you should check this out , it explains the creative commons license and as well as many other things. https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/71009618/
That's an anti-recolor project. It doesn't explain the CC license correctly.

What about https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/70362686/ ?

That's a project I've seen :3 It explains it pretty well.
Too your eyes.
iamlink1
Scratcher
70 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

I sympathize with artists, getting your art recolored must feel horrible. However, Scratch projects are under Creative Commons Share Alike licenses, which means that anyone can view and remix/recolor your project. If you don't want them to be used this way, unshare them and post your art somewhere else.

cheddargirl wrote:

There are other websites out there, dA just happens to be the most popular because it's the one most often talked about. Kind of like how Etsy is usually the first website that comes to mind for those who want to open a market for handmade items. But I digress.

There are easy ways to put a © license on a work other than dA. Besides other alternative art websites (such as the Newgrounds Art portal, ArtRift, etc.), most pic sharing sites require that you own the pics you upload anyway and have commenting options. Users can also publish independently by making their own site and sharing there. (A tip for the budding artist: The latter happens to be the more professional option if you're seriously considering art as a career).
^^^
Like cheddargirl said, there are plenty of places to share your work. I personally recommend making a website (if you don't know how, use website building services such as Wix and Weebly).

Because Scratch projects are under Creative Commons Share Alike licenses, that also means that you cannot say that remixes are not allowed for your project. According to Scratch's FAQ, "We believe that viewing and remixing interesting projects is a great way to learn to program, and leads to cool new ideas. That’s why the source code is visible for every project shared to the Scratch website.“

However, if the recolorer/remixer gives no credit to you as the original artist or made no changes to your project, you have the right to report them. The FAQ says ”It's important to respect the original creator’s wishes regarding remixing. If you choose to integrate someone else’s work into your own, be sure to give them credit on the project “credits” section, and include a link back to the original.", and the Community Guidelines states “You are free to remix projects, ideas, images, or anything else you find on Scratch – and anyone can use anything that you share. Be sure to give credit when you remix.” If they give no credit to you, report them. They have not upheld this Community Guideline. If they do give credit, there's nothing you can do about it, besides taking down your project and posting your art somewhere else. But ff they didn't change your original project, that's a different story. That can be reported. All remixes have to contain changes and credit.

For more information on recoloring/remixing/project copying, be sure to check these links below out.
Remixing according to the FAQ
The Community Guidelines
Project Copying
Remix Controversy

The last two links are from the Scratch Wiki, and were written by Scratchers, not the Scratch Team. If you have anything to add or think is incorrect, leave a message on my profile @iamlink1, specifying the edit you wish to be added, and I will review it and possibly add it to the article(s).
charlie55843
Scratcher
2 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

This war is pointless.

IronBit_Studios
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

charlie55843 wrote:

This war is pointless.

…And which side do you support?
DaSpudLord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

charlie55843 wrote:

This war is pointless.

*ahem* necropost *ahem*
Econinja
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

DaSpudLord wrote:

charlie55843 wrote:

This war is pointless.

*ahem* necropost *ahem*
*ahem* not a nercopost *ahem*
Anyways, the war is pointless but they just keep umm… you know Anyways, this should be the final answer:

iamlink1 wrote:

I sympathize with artists, getting your art recolored must feel horrible. However, Scratch projects are under Creative Commons Share Alike licenses, which means that anyone can view and remix/recolor your project. If you don't want them to be used this way, unshare them and post your art somewhere else.

cheddargirl wrote:

There are other websites out there, dA just happens to be the most popular because it's the one most often talked about. Kind of like how Etsy is usually the first website that comes to mind for those who want to open a market for handmade items. But I digress.

There are easy ways to put a © license on a work other than dA. Besides other alternative art websites (such as the Newgrounds Art portal, ArtRift, etc.), most pic sharing sites require that you own the pics you upload anyway and have commenting options. Users can also publish independently by making their own site and sharing there. (A tip for the budding artist: The latter happens to be the more professional option if you're seriously considering art as a career).
^^^
Like cheddargirl said, there are plenty of places to share your work. I personally recommend making a website (if you don't know how, use website building services such as Wix and Weebly).

Because Scratch projects are under Creative Commons Share Alike licenses, that also means that you cannot say that remixes are not allowed for your project. According to Scratch's FAQ, "We believe that viewing and remixing interesting projects is a great way to learn to program, and leads to cool new ideas. That’s why the source code is visible for every project shared to the Scratch website.“

However, if the recolorer/remixer gives no credit to you as the original artist or made no changes to your project, you have the right to report them. The FAQ says ”It's important to respect the original creator’s wishes regarding remixing. If you choose to integrate someone else’s work into your own, be sure to give them credit on the project “credits” section, and include a link back to the original.", and the Community Guidelines states “You are free to remix projects, ideas, images, or anything else you find on Scratch – and anyone can use anything that you share. Be sure to give credit when you remix.” If they give no credit to you, report them. They have not upheld this Community Guideline. If they do give credit, there's nothing you can do about it, besides taking down your project and posting your art somewhere else. But ff they didn't change your original project, that's a different story. That can be reported. All remixes have to contain changes and credit.

For more information on recoloring/remixing/project copying, be sure to check these links below out.
Remixing according to the FAQ
The Community Guidelines
Project Copying
Remix Controversy

The last two links are from the Scratch Wiki, and were written by Scratchers, not the Scratch Team. If you have anything to add or think is incorrect, leave a message on my profile @iamlink1, specifying the edit you wish to be added, and I will review it and possibly add it to the article(s).
DaSpudLord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

Econinja wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

charlie55843 wrote:

This war is pointless.

*ahem* necropost *ahem*
*ahem* not a nercopost *ahem*
In this case, it kind of is. Necroposting is only okay if you are agreeing with the suggestion and the topic is relevant. (Honestly, if you're no supporting, there's no reason for you to bump a dead suggestion.) @charlie55843 was not agreeing with the post, and the topic had been solved already.
IronBit_Studios
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

DaSpudLord wrote:

In this case, it kind of is. Necroposting is only okay if you are agreeing with the suggestion and the topic is relevant. (Honestly, if you're no supporting, there's no reason for you to bump a dead suggestion.) @charlie55843 was not agreeing with the post, and the topic had been solved already.
It hasn't been explicitly stated what side he/she stands for.
DaSpudLord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

IronBit_Studios wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

In this case, it kind of is. Necroposting is only okay if you are agreeing with the suggestion and the topic is relevant. (Honestly, if you're no supporting, there's no reason for you to bump a dead suggestion.) @charlie55843 was not agreeing with the post, and the topic had been solved already.
It hasn't been explicitly stated what side he/she stands for.
I think he/she was on the side of “I don't want this topic to exist”.
IronBit_Studios
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

DaSpudLord wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

In this case, it kind of is. Necroposting is only okay if you are agreeing with the suggestion and the topic is relevant. (Honestly, if you're no supporting, there's no reason for you to bump a dead suggestion.) @charlie55843 was not agreeing with the post, and the topic had been solved already.
It hasn't been explicitly stated what side he/she stands for.
I think he/she was on the side of “I don't want this topic to exist”.
That's kinda implied, I guess.
(S)he had no better reason to bump it, then?
DaSpudLord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

IronBit_Studios wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

In this case, it kind of is. Necroposting is only okay if you are agreeing with the suggestion and the topic is relevant. (Honestly, if you're no supporting, there's no reason for you to bump a dead suggestion.) @charlie55843 was not agreeing with the post, and the topic had been solved already.
It hasn't been explicitly stated what side he/she stands for.
I think he/she was on the side of “I don't want this topic to exist”.
That's kinda implied, I guess.
(S)he had no better reason to bump it, then?
That's what it looks like.
IronBit_Studios
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

DaSpudLord wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

DaSpudLord wrote:

In this case, it kind of is. Necroposting is only okay if you are agreeing with the suggestion and the topic is relevant. (Honestly, if you're no supporting, there's no reason for you to bump a dead suggestion.) @charlie55843 was not agreeing with the post, and the topic had been solved already.
It hasn't been explicitly stated what side he/she stands for.
I think he/she was on the side of “I don't want this topic to exist”.
That's kinda implied, I guess.
(S)he had no better reason to bump it, then?
That's what it looks like.
But we can't know for sure yet.
Tails-the-Doll
Scratcher
100+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

I've been recolored TWICE, But I'm fine when the person asks first. If not, and DOESN'T GIVE CREDIT, Report 'em. Other then that, just ignore the recolors.
IronBit_Studios
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

Tails-the-Doll wrote:

I've been recolored TWICE, But I'm fine when the person asks first. If not, and DOESN'T GIVE CREDIT, Report 'em. Other then that, just ignore the recolors.
This is a pretty good example.
FastAWPer
Scratcher
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A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

IronBit_Studios wrote:

Tails-the-Doll wrote:

I've been recolored TWICE, But I'm fine when the person asks first. If not, and DOESN'T GIVE CREDIT, Report 'em. Other then that, just ignore the recolors.
This is a pretty good example.

And what about Art Thieves? They are better off getting arrested by the FBI. (Or some sort of Police) (Necropost.)
mopar
Scratcher
14 posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

FastAWPer wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

Tails-the-Doll wrote:

I've been recolored TWICE, But I'm fine when the person asks first. If not, and DOESN'T GIVE CREDIT, Report 'em. Other then that, just ignore the recolors.
This is a pretty good example.

And what about Art Thieves? They are better off getting arrested by the FBI. (Or some sort of Police) (Necropost.)
Lol, are you talking about in real life? Art theives can get arrested in real life, but on Scratch (or any other art website) they can't get arrested.

IronBit_Studios
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

mopar wrote:

FastAWPer wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

Tails-the-Doll wrote:

I've been recolored TWICE, But I'm fine when the person asks first. If not, and DOESN'T GIVE CREDIT, Report 'em. Other then that, just ignore the recolors.
This is a pretty good example.

And what about Art Thieves? They are better off getting arrested by the FBI. (Or some sort of Police) (Necropost.)
Lol, are you talking about in real life? Art theives can get arrested in real life, but on Scratch (or any other art website) they can't get arrested.

Yeah, everything on Scratch is CC protected, and you won't get in legal trouble even in places like dA.
DaSpudLord
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

IronBit_Studios wrote:

mopar wrote:

FastAWPer wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

Tails-the-Doll wrote:

I've been recolored TWICE, But I'm fine when the person asks first. If not, and DOESN'T GIVE CREDIT, Report 'em. Other then that, just ignore the recolors.
This is a pretty good example.

And what about Art Thieves? They are better off getting arrested by the FBI. (Or some sort of Police) (Necropost.)
Lol, are you talking about in real life? Art theives can get arrested in real life, but on Scratch (or any other art website) they can't get arrested.

Yeah, everything on Scratch is CC protected, and you won't get in legal trouble even in places like dA.
What these guys said. If you see an art theft, report it, and the ST will take care of it (make sure you include the link to the original). Anyway, since this has been solved, should we close this?
iamunknown2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

A Rule For No-Recolors And Art Theft

FastAWPer wrote:

IronBit_Studios wrote:

Tails-the-Doll wrote:

I've been recolored TWICE, But I'm fine when the person asks first. If not, and DOESN'T GIVE CREDIT, Report 'em. Other then that, just ignore the recolors.
This is a pretty good example.

And what about Art Thieves? They are better off getting arrested by the FBI. (Or some sort of Police) (Necropost.)
When you share stuff on this site, you are AGREEING to let it be used by anyone (even without permission), as long as you give credit.

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