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Lightnin
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

This post is outdated! Check out the new one here:
http://pico.media.mit.edu/discuss/topic/4442/?page=1#post-25159

Lots of Scratchers have asked us how the transition will work, so we thought we’d write up a short summary and post it in the forums.

I recently shared a project to the old Scratch website. Why isn’t it showing up on the beta 2.0 site?
Around midnight on January 25th we took a snapshot of the old website’s data (projects, comments, etc.) and copied it over to the beta 2.0 site. The beta 2.0 site won’t know about projects or comments shared to the old website after January 25th. When we’re ready to release Scratch 2.0, we’ll copy over all the stuff shared to the old site since January 25th.

Now that we can test out the beta version of Scratch 2.0, how long until it is released?
We hope to keep the beta period short. But it depends on how much more work we have to do to make sure everything is working well. We’ll let everyone know at least a week before we’re planning on closing down the old site and transitioning everything to the new one.

How often will Scratch Team update the beta site with bug fixes and new features?
We'll release updates and fixes at least once a week during the beta - and sometimes more often than that. Look for announcements about these updates in the Announcements forum. If you don't see the changes described in an update, try doing a hard refresh, or clearing your cache.

Will projects from the beta site still be available after the release of Scratch 2.0?
Yes, projects made on the beta site will stay on the new site.

Will anything get deleted when we move from beta to the official Scratch 2.0 release?
Yes, some things such as studios created and project comments, love-its, favorites, and views made in the Scratch 2.0 beta will be deleted when we transition to the official Scratch 2.0 release.

What does it mean to Follow someone?
If you click the Follow button on a Scratcher’s profile, you then receive updates about their projects and other Scratch activities on your home page.

Why did it change from Friends to Followers?
When we first released the Scratch website in 2007, the concept of “Friending” wasn’t completely figured out. With the rise of Facebook and social networking sites, “Friending” now means that both people have agreed to a connection, whereas “Following” is when one person decides they want to receive public updates about the other. Since this is how “Friends” have always worked on Scratch, we decided to change the name to “Following” to avoid confusing new users.

Why change the name of “Galleries” to “Studios”?
On the old Scratch website, we were excited to realize that Scratchers used galleries for lots of different purposes - not just for showing projects, but for role-playing games and collabs, to name a few. We decided a more general name would be a better fit.

My login doesn’t work on the beta 2.0 site - what’s wrong?
The 2.0 test site only knows about accounts created on the old site - scratch.mit.edu - before January 26th, 2013. So you can only login with accounts made before then. If you changed your password on scratch.mit.edu after Jan. 25th, you’ll need to use your old password to login to the beta site.

Will the projects from the old site be available on the new site?
Yes - all projects will be imported to the beta site, as well as all comments and galleries.

Why do projects imported from the old site have more views on the beta site?
On the old site, we only counted a single view for each location used to view the project. Many schools and libraries set up their networks in a way that makes it look like all their users are coming from a single location. So if 1000 kids in a school (or school district) viewed your project, it counted as 1 view. The view count shown on the beta site is a re-calcuation of old data, and is a more accurate measure of views.

Will posts from the old Scratch forums be brought to the new Scratch forums?
No - many if not most of those posts are outdated. But they will still be visible on a read-only copy of the old forums. The layout of the various forums will be pretty much the same after the release.

Will Scratch 2.0 have the same forums as the old site?
Yes, but not until we release Scratch 2.0. While Scratch 2.0 is in beta, only a smaller set of forums will be available.

When will Scratch 2.0 be translated into more languages?
There's still lots of work to be done translating Scratch 2.0. Look for updates in the near future! I you'd like to help translate, check out this wiki page.

Will there ever be a downloadable Scratch 2.0 editor?
Yep! But it won't be ready when we initially release 2.0. We plan to get it into alpha / beta state soon after the release.

Will we still be able to make projects with Scratch 1.4, and share them to this website?
Certainly!

Where are my messages?
We moved messages from the Scratch 1.4 website to Scratch 2.0. However, we did not keep messages you received in the Scratch 2.0 Beta website.

If you have additional questions, post them here!

Last edited by Lightnin (May 9, 2013 03:51:57)

funelephant
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

I have a question. Will the transition be somewhat slow, like a few days, or all at once?

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soupoftomato
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

funelephant
I have a question. Will the transition be somewhat slow, like a few days, or all at once?
I imagine all at once, and the sort of “transition” is this period where they have all Scratcher's that want to able to tell them about issues in the system.

EDIT: Typo.
Lightnin
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

funelephant
I have a question. Will the transition be somewhat slow, like a few days, or all at once?

We'll probably shutdown everything for about a couple of days - hopefully less. And when we come back up - it's the dawn of a new era.

Last edited by sdg1 (Jan. 28, 2013 01:29:41)

funelephant
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Lightnin
funelephant
I have a question. Will the transition be somewhat slow, like a few days, or all at once?

We'll probably shutdown everything for about a day or so - hopefully less. And when we come back up - it's the dawn of a new era.
Oh okay I think like a week before, you should implement little things, then shut it down

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Greenatic
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Lightnin
However, some things on the beta site may be deleted during the transition, including: studios, comments, love-its, favorites, and views.

Why would these things be deleted?

Last edited by Greenatic (Jan. 28, 2013 01:09:21)


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Lightnin
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Greenatic
Lightnin
However, some things on the beta site may be deleted during the transition, including: studios, comments, love-its, favorites, and views.

Why would these things be deleted?

Because merging humongous databases is really hairy. It's much easier to copy data from one place to another, than to merge data from two places. So rather than spending weeks figuring out how to do that, we decided we'd sacrifice some of the data from beta. Not ideal, but fast!
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Lightnin
Greenatic
Lightnin
However, some things on the beta site may be deleted during the transition, including: studios, comments, love-its, favorites, and views.

Why would these things be deleted?

Because merging humongous databases is really hairy. It's much easier to copy data from one place to another, than to merge data from two places. So rather than spending weeks figuring out how to do that, we decided we'd sacrifice some of the data from beta. Not ideal, but fast!
The big advantage I have over the Scratch Team in terms of soft development: I have lots of free time.

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scimonster
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Will the alpha and beta projects be unshared when 2.0 is released? Or will we have to unshare our tests manually?

Last edited by scimonster (Jan. 28, 2013 15:00:25)


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Nomolos
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Will the forums be down at the beginning since there will be so many people on?

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Lightnin
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

scimonster
Will the alpha and beta projects be unshared when 2.0 is released? Or will we have to unshare our tests automatically?

No, why would they be? Everything should continue on as normal.
elfin8er
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

I think 2.0 beta was just released minutes ago THANK YOU SCRATCH TEAM!
XGamer42
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

On the forums, TIRAP and TIMAC aren't there.
When are they coming?

I'm Back
scimonster
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Everyone, don't forget to check out the Scratch Wiki for everything you need to know about Scratch 2.0!!

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Lightnin
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

XGamer42
On the forums, TIRAP and TIMAC aren't there.
When are they coming?

After the release! (Updated original post!)
Joewheeeeler
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Scratch 2 Is Awesome! Thank you so Much Scratch and I'm really looking forward to the Main site!
whizzer
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

Will TiMaC and TiRaP be transferred or just re-made?
Nomolos
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

WOWZIES! 118 people online! :O

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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

whizzer
Will TiMaC and TiRaP be transferred or just re-made?
*face palm* scroll up. It was asked only TWO posts above you/
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Pre-transition info about the transition to Scratch 2.0 thread! (closed)

OK, I am trying to use the text editor with the text in my project, but, no luck!


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