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Scratch12300
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

My friend thinks the disappearing text bug is a creature that is half bug, half computer. But I don't like that.

EDIT: Sorry, he was just kidding.

Last edited by Scratch12300 (June 15, 2013 15:55:23)

goldfish678
Scratcher
1000+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

Wait: it's been in Scratch BEFORE SCRATCH 2.0??? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scratch12300
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

goldfish678 wrote:

Wait: it's been in Scratch BEFORE SCRATCH 2.0??? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scratch 1.4 is gone now, so don't worry .
zorket
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

Scratch12300 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

Wait: it's been in Scratch BEFORE SCRATCH 2.0??? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scratch 1.4 is gone now, so don't worry .
Yeah, scratch 1.4 has been dissolved into a fine powder. But that's where scratch 2.0 comes in!
SFollis
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

zorket wrote:

Scratch12300 wrote:

goldfish678 wrote:

Wait: it's been in Scratch BEFORE SCRATCH 2.0??? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scratch 1.4 is gone now, so don't worry .
Yeah, scratch 1.4 has been dissolved into a fine powder. But that's where scratch 2.0 comes in!
not entirely! http://scratch.mit.edu/scratch_1.4/

You can still download it
bestvitalic2
Scratcher
1 post

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

Hello everyone!

I have moved on scratch for a while, yesterday I tried to create a new project to see the new commands etc.. However, I was surprised when I found a problem that arose when I tried to view the “See Inside” of the projects in scratch, even in my projects!

The values ​​of variables, lists, everything!! It seems to be invisible. I would appreciate help me as soon as possible! : (

Thank you for your attention.

bestvitalic2 (Daniel)

PS: Browser is Chrome

Last edited by bestvitalic2 (June 13, 2013 15:59:31)

goldfish678
Scratcher
1000+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

I have just realized that maybe Kaj was serious a bout that threataning project and this bug is just part of his huge plan
dsaztur
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

goldfish678 wrote:

I have just realized that maybe Kaj was serious a bout that threataning project and this bug is just part of his huge plan
Don't worry. Kaj quit.
davidkt
Scratcher
1000+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

NOOOOOOOOOOOo
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*fills the screen with s*

Last edited by Paddle2See (June 16, 2013 18:38:05)

johnm
Scratcher
100+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

bestvitalic2 wrote:

I have moved on scratch for a while, yesterday I tried to create a new project to see the new commands etc.. However, I was surprised when I found a problem that arose when I tried to view the “See Inside” of the projects in scratch, even in my projects!

The values ​​of variables, lists, everything!! It seems to be invisible. I would appreciate help me as soon as possible! : (

First, don't worry. All of your scripts are there, they are just not displaying properly. Everything looked fine when I looked inside your project just now.

I believe this problem is due to a Flash or browser bug involving font caching. Try this: quit from Chrome, then start it again and “see inside” that same project. Did the text reappear? If that doesn't work, try a different browser. Finally, if that doesn't work, you could try restarting your computer.

Please post here and let us know which (if any) of these solutions works. Also, which version of Windows are you running?

Incidentally, I believe all reported cases of script text disappearing were on Windows, which seems to be the case here, too. Has anyone see this problem on Mac or Linux?

Thanks!

Last edited by johnm (June 16, 2013 10:43:57)

jontmy00
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

johnm wrote:

bestvitalic2 wrote:

-snip-

The values ​​of variables, lists, everything!! It seems to be invisible. I would appreciate help me as soon as possible! : (

-snip-

Incidentally, I believe all reported cases of script text disappearing were on Windows, which seems to be the case here, too. Has anyone see this problem on Mac or Linux?

Thanks!
This has never occurred so far for a Mac for me.
johnm
Scratcher
100+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

rdococ wrote:

I noticed the bug has mutated:

a) In one species of the bug, only string-related inputs (including dropdowns, excluding number dropdowns) are left alone. When the text is bold, it disappears.
b) In another, only the most basic label text, number and string inputs (excluding dropdowns, including number dropdowns) are left alone. When the text is bold (exception is the string input), it does not disappear.

These are my explanations:

a) The font is missing its bold typeface. My system's Verdana has its bold typeface, and I have never encountered the bug on my system. That means, no matter how many scripts, sprites, text, you add to your project, this species will only occur if your Verdana font has been corrupted or is incomplete.

Good observations. Yes, it's odd that sometimes the block labels disappear, other times the text in input fields. Has anyone seen both types of text disappear at the same time?

I had the same theory as you about it being a bold/non-bold font issue, but the two fonts are both bold, just different sizes (9 and 10 point).

At first I thought it was merely coincidence, but I'm starting to wonder if Flash might not be hitting the same bug in the Windows text rendering engine that Scratch 1.4 did. I haven't kept careful track, but I believe all reported cases of this problem have been on Windows. Another similarity is that the problem is not reproducible and fairly rare. It doesn't happen most of the time you use Scratch, but once the text disappears it doesn't come back during that session.

A possible workaround when this happens is to (1) make sure your project is saved, (2) quit the browser (i.e. close all browser windows), (3) restart the browser. If that doesn't work, you can try to shut down and restart Windows.

Although this bug is annoying, it's not the end of the world. Your scripts do not actually disappear and you'll be able to see them again once you've restarted.

This isn't a bug in Scratch, it's a bug in some underlying software: Flash, Chrome, or Windows. Scratch certainly has bugs of it's own, but this isn't one of them. That's too bad, because if this were a Scratch bug we could fix it. Unfortunately, in this case, all we can do is figure out how to work around it.

johnm
Scratcher
100+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

It would be a huge help if anyone who has experienced this bug in Scratch 2.0 could post here:

1. What OS and browser you were running.
2. If you tried quitting and restarting your browser, did that fix the problem?
3. Have you experienced this problem more than once (on different days)? if so, how many times?

Many thanks!
goldfish678
Scratcher
1000+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

I expirienced it several days, I am using firefox, and it did not fix it.
Epicness123
Scratcher
1000+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

It happened to me during the first day of the Beta testing,but the day after that,it never happened to me again.

Last edited by Epicness123 (June 17, 2013 00:28:01)

Scratch12300
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

davidkt wrote:

NOOOOOOOOOOOo
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*fills the screen with s*
Ouch! You got an admin edit? I didn't know you can get that for this sort of thing!
Epicness123
Scratcher
1000+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

7734f wrote:

It hit me:
no
The text you wrote dissapears.
Not the script words
SFollis
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

Epicness123 wrote:

7734f wrote:

It hit me:
no
The text you wrote dissapears.
Not the script words
there are more than one kind. and this still is the disappearing text bug.
annabel_nied
Scratcher
3 posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

OMG my awesome project– great, fantastic… UNTIL ALL THE STUPID WORDS JUST DISSIPATED! Gone! I'm hoping the words will come back after I save and then close Scratch– Please, please, please I hope. D: So very sad.
7734f
Scratcher
500+ posts

It hasn't left us...(Disappearing Text Bug)

annabel_nied wrote:

OMG my awesome project– great, fantastic… UNTIL ALL THE STUPID WORDS JUST DISSIPATED! Gone! I'm hoping the words will come back after I save and then close Scratch– Please, please, please I hope. D: So very sad.

Most of the time they come back (in rare cases they don't)

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