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- TweetytheBird93
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Scratcher
36 posts
Scratch 4.0
If the chatbot does get added to Scratch, would there be a way to detect or log inappropriate messages sent to it?Info from another job description on scratchfoundation.orgUhm I have no idea how long they've actually been working on 4.0 for??
Is this enough time
They already showed off an AI chatbot thing last Scratch Conference and it's fully functional (except for project searching)
- kkidslogin
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Scratch 4.0
(#217)pre-trained llms are not exactly out of the box. they still need hundreds of computer-hours to make them usable for most people.I doubt they will/can even make an AI because they can't fix the Scratch Indexing problem.Realistically, they're just going to use a premade LLM
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(#221)All LLMs have vulgar content detectors. These messages aren't usually moderated, however.If the chatbot does get added to Scratch, would there be a way to detect or log inappropriate messages sent to it?Info from another job description on scratchfoundation.orgUhm I have no idea how long they've actually been working on 4.0 for??
Is this enough time
They already showed off an AI chatbot thing last Scratch Conference and it's fully functional (except for project searching)
The more important thing is to ensure that the LLM doesn't send vulgar content back like that early version of CoPilot.
Last edited by kkidslogin (Dec. 18, 2025 15:33:35)
- JScratchsaurus147
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Scratcher
100+ posts
Scratch 4.0
it's supposed to come out late 2026 or sometime in 2027 in celebration of scratch's 20th anniversary, and it's been officially revealed. We have some clue to when it'll come out, but that's not positive. Things happen sometimes, so who knows what'll happen.
- redspacecat
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Scratch 4.0
(#223)I wasn't aware that it has been officially revealed on the Scratch website. (e.g. the forums)
it's been officially revealed
I don't think a paragraph in two random job listings, not linked to on the Scratch website really counts.
- V00P
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Scratcher
16 posts
Scratch 4.0
i'm using firefox windows xp >also how does WinXP Work on scratch??? it's also pretty smooth, also fastThat should be fake, IE 6.0 doesn't support Scratch. Also, don't be off-topic…
I feel like the implementation of AI into Scratch should be smaller, because although it might be great for ideas and script help, I don't really want it to completely generate projects. I mean, look what has happened with ‘slop’ elsewhere…
But the “re-imagined online community” just makes me more curious about it.
- medians
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Scratch 4.0
Then why did it say Internet Explorer?? Also, what version of Firefoxi'm using firefox windows xp >also how does WinXP Work on scratch??? it's also pretty smooth, also fastThat should be fake, IE 6.0 doesn't support Scratch. Also, don't be off-topic…
I feel like the implementation of AI into Scratch should be smaller, because although it might be great for ideas and script help, I don't really want it to completely generate projects. I mean, look what has happened with ‘slop’ elsewhere…
But the “re-imagined online community” just makes me more curious about it.
This topic is also about Scratch 4.0, here's the XP/Vista/7 topic
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/858382/
I feel like I've seen ST members mention it or at least some mention on the forums, but I could be wrong(#223)I wasn't aware that it has been officially revealed on the Scratch website. (e.g. the forums)
it's been officially revealed
I don't think a paragraph in two random job listings, not linked to on the Scratch website really counts.
Last edited by medians (Jan. 4, 2026 22:04:12)
- retro2D
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Scratcher
76 posts
Scratch 4.0
it's supposed to come out late 2026 or sometime in 2027 in celebration of scratch's 20th anniversary, and it's been officially revealed. We have some clue to when it'll come out, but that's not positive. Things happen sometimes, so who knows what'll happen.Really? I am… intrigued on whether or not the AI features will ruin the platform.
- ispretty
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Scratcher
500+ posts
Scratch 4.0
It was in a Scratch Conference as a live demo(#223)I wasn't aware that it has been officially revealed on the Scratch website. (e.g. the forums)
it's been officially revealed
I don't think a paragraph in two random job listings, not linked to on the Scratch website really counts.
Last edited by ispretty (Jan. 5, 2026 03:54:03)
- redspacecat
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Scratch 4.0
Ah, wasn't aware of that.It was in a Scratch Conference as a live demo(#223)I wasn't aware that it has been officially revealed on the Scratch website. (e.g. the forums)
it's been officially revealed
I don't think a paragraph in two random job listings, not linked to on the Scratch website really counts.
- V00P
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Scratcher
16 posts
Scratch 4.0
scratch should not do AI, scratch should do creativity, AI does not support older systems like Windows vista and older.it's supposed to come out late 2026 or sometime in 2027 in celebration of scratch's 20th anniversary, and it's been officially revealed. We have some clue to when it'll come out, but that's not positive. Things happen sometimes, so who knows what'll happen.Really? I am… intrigued on whether or not the AI features will ruin the platform.
- spacebart
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Scratcher
20 posts
Scratch 4.0
scratch should not do AI, scratch should do creativity, AI does not support older systems like Windows vista and older.it's supposed to come out late 2026 or sometime in 2027 in celebration of scratch's 20th anniversary, and it's been officially revealed. We have some clue to when it'll come out, but that's not positive. Things happen sometimes, so who knows what'll happen.Really? I am… intrigued on whether or not the AI features will ruin the platform.
I assume it would all run natively within the project and would not have to do with your operating system, but I may be wrong. Also, i think projects with the limited AI capabilities would quickly become boring and would not mess up everything if the AI is the simple version shown in scratch lab
- gem1001
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Scratcher
500+ posts
Scratch 4.0
I'm sure it's entirely possible to make an AI client work on Windows Vista, and the AI experiments that they've done that are either planned or not explicitly rejected don't seem that harmful to creativityscratch should not do AI, scratch should do creativity, AI does not support older systems like Windows vista and older.it's supposed to come out late 2026 or sometime in 2027 in celebration of scratch's 20th anniversary, and it's been officially revealed. We have some clue to when it'll come out, but that's not positive. Things happen sometimes, so who knows what'll happen.Really? I am… intrigued on whether or not the AI features will ruin the platform.
- medians
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Scratch 4.0
For the first part, I think I've seen someone do it for Windows 7 and 8. Also, all the people on Vista/XP on Scratch currently that I've seen are using browsers that should load AI fineI'm sure it's entirely possible to make an AI client work on Windows Vista, and the AI experiments that they've done that are either planned or not explicitly rejected don't seem that harmful to creativityscratch should not do AI, scratch should do creativity, AI does not support older systems like Windows vista and older.it's supposed to come out late 2026 or sometime in 2027 in celebration of scratch's 20th anniversary, and it's been officially revealed. We have some clue to when it'll come out, but that's not positive. Things happen sometimes, so who knows what'll happen.Really? I am… intrigued on whether or not the AI features will ruin the platform.
Last edited by medians (Jan. 22, 2026 15:10:04)
- medians
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Scratch 4.0
scratch should not do AI, scratch should do creativity, AI does not support older systems like Windows vista and older.I mean, Scratch already requires WebGL
- silvxrcat
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Scratcher
500+ posts
Scratch 4.0
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 3.1, Chrome 144.0.0.0, No Flash version detected
Can my browser support an AI chatbot
Can my browser support an AI chatbot
- medians
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Scratch 4.0
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 3.1, Chrome 144.0.0.0, No Flash version detectedI mean mine can :P
Can my browser support an AI chatbot
My browser / operating system: Windows Vista, Chrome 145.0.0.0, No Flash versions detected
My browser / operating system: Windows Vista, Firefox 149.0, No Flash versions detected
- gem1001
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Scratcher
500+ posts
Scratch 4.0
Given the contents of the new ToS, it is safe to assume that 4.0 will see the release of the worst, most AI-ridden version of Scratch in history.
AI images are unrejected
AI images are unrejected
The Service may permit users to Submit Input to
the Service in order to generate responses,
images, recommended software edits, or
other AI-generated output (“Output”).
- V00P
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Scratcher
16 posts
Scratch 4.0
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 3.1, Chrome 144.0.0.0, No Flash version detectedyea no, i use nt 3.51, chatbot works on 2000 tho
Can my browser support an AI chatbot
- kkidslogin
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
Scratch 4.0
(#235)How are you running Scratch on NT 3.1? That's from the 1990s.
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 3.1, Chrome 144.0.0.0, No Flash version detected
Can my browser support an AI chatbot