coder2310 wrote:

Sasha_Banks272 wrote:

Rosics wrote:

They do read reports!

How many times do I have to tell this story? I've been on Scratch for 5 years (since 2020). I've sent a total of 15 Contact Us emails by a quick search of my inbox. I've only ever gotten a response once, ONCE! And that response was just a copy-and-paste message that the Scratch Team commonly uses. And when I report messages and content here on Scratch, I end up having to get my friends to spam (not like mass-report, but just report and over and over) report it just to get the Scratch Team to at least look at my reports.

I've actually experinced something like this before, I had to report an innapropriate trending project. And when that didn't work I used contact us, but they just told me to “use the report button”. Which I had already told them I did, twice in the message.

They did ban the project -two months later I think- but that was extremely dissapointing.

Even with this, I do think that the idea of someone mini modding and moderating rules that don't even matter is rediculous. And just like lot's of other things here, it should be more clear that it's not allowed.

Girl are we twinning? I was dealing with harassment from October 2024 - September 2025 and everytime I used Contact Us, they told me to use the report button, and nothing ever got done about my situation until I decided to bring it to the forums.

The difference between advice and mini-modding is how you say it.

If someone necroposts, I notice people say “Do not necropost.”. That doesn't do anything other than repeat the rules. But if you say “You know this topic has been dead for a while, that's called necroposting”, that is a lot more useful to someone unaware of the rules, or why they are in place.

Mini-modding: Repeating the rules
Good advice: Explaining the rules

cambegonefr wrote:

kip22s wrote:

kip22s wrote:

Does a mini-mod also count as someone directly quoting moderators like Paddle2See's messages?

No that's just quoting, although you shouldn't be doing that because that's Paddle's job, not yours.

And yet, does not a citizen take someone to court?

IndexErrorException wrote:

The difference between advice and mini-modding is how you say it.

If someone necroposts, I notice people say “Do not necropost.”. That doesn't do anything other than repeat the rules. But if you say “You know this topic has been dead for a while, that's called necroposting”, that is a lot more useful to someone unaware of the rules, or why they are in place.

Mini-modding: Repeating the rules
Good advice: Explaining the rules

that still sounds abhorrently patronizing though

IndexErrorException wrote:

The difference between advice and mini-modding is how you say it.

If someone necroposts, I notice people say “Do not necropost.”. That doesn't do anything other than repeat the rules. But if you say “You know this topic has been dead for a while, that's called necroposting”, that is a lot more useful to someone unaware of the rules, or why they are in place.

Mini-modding: Repeating the rules
Good advice: Explaining the rules

Hmm.. what about reminding people of rules? In grifftopia, we remind people that there is a daily ad limit, stated in the “What Im Working On” section of his profile. Some people don't know it exists, and some people forget.

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

kip22s wrote:

kip22s wrote:

Does a mini-mod also count as someone directly quoting moderators like Paddle2See's messages?

No that's just quoting, although you shouldn't be doing that because that's Paddle's job, not yours.

And yet, does not a citizen take someone to court?

That's not a very good analogy in this case. It's a police officer's job to enforce rules and give out punishments, not the community's. A citizen can take another citizen to court because there's such things a lawsuit but they need a lawyer, jury, and judge, which not only costs money, but it's also people of authority.

cambegonefr wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

snip.

And yet, does not a citizen take someone to court?

That's not a very good analogy in this case. It's a police officer's job to enforce rules and give out punishments, not the community's. A citizen can take another citizen to court because there's such things a lawsuit but they need a lawyer, jury, and judge, which not only costs money, but it's also people of authority.

And cant a citizen, cant they train to become a lawyer? Cant they be their own lawyer?

cambegonefr wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

kip22s wrote:

kip22s wrote:

Does a mini-mod also count as someone directly quoting moderators like Paddle2See's messages?

No that's just quoting, although you shouldn't be doing that because that's Paddle's job, not yours.

And yet, does not a citizen take someone to court?

That's not a very good analogy in this case. It's a police officer's job to enforce rules and give out punishments, not the community's. A citizen can take another citizen to court because there's such things a lawsuit but they need a lawyer, jury, and judge, which not only costs money, but it's also people of authority.

Last time I checked, it's not illegal to tell the one doing a crime to stop and also call the police
it isn't, right?

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

snip.

And yet, does not a citizen take someone to court?

That's not a very good analogy in this case. It's a police officer's job to enforce rules and give out punishments, not the community's. A citizen can take another citizen to court because there's such things a lawsuit but they need a lawyer, jury, and judge, which not only costs money, but it's also people of authority.

And cant a citizen, cant they train to become a lawyer? Cant they be their own lawyer?

They can. But that's still not a valid argument. These teenage mini-mods on this site are not in any position to be a Scratch Team member and aren't old enough to be one. I'm five months from being eligible to apply to be a Scratch Team member (which I might do), you think I want Scratchers younger than me telling me what to do?

FreshTheCat wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

kip22s wrote:

kip22s wrote:

Does a mini-mod also count as someone directly quoting moderators like Paddle2See's messages?

No that's just quoting, although you shouldn't be doing that because that's Paddle's job, not yours.

And yet, does not a citizen take someone to court?

That's not a very good analogy in this case. It's a police officer's job to enforce rules and give out punishments, not the community's. A citizen can take another citizen to court because there's such things a lawsuit but they need a lawyer, jury, and judge, which not only costs money, but it's also people of authority.

Last time I checked, it's not illegal to tell the one doing a crime to stop and also call the police
it isn't, right?

It's not illegal but that's not.. uh.. safe either. You should call the police without alerting the perpetrator that you are calling them, as the same as you should silently report to the Scratch Team instead of putting the other user on blast.

cambegonefr wrote:

IloveRoblox003 wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

snip.

And cant a citizen, cant they train to become a lawyer? Cant they be their own lawyer?

They can. But that's still not a valid argument. These teenage mini-mods on this site are not in any position to be a Scratch Team member and aren't old enough to be one. I'm five months from being eligible to apply to be a Scratch Team member (which I might do), you think I want Scratchers younger than me telling me what to do?

And is age supposed to be a factor of wisdom? Age is a factor of experience, not knowledge or formality.
Of course, experience is a factor of them both, but it's only one of the many factors in them.

cambegonefr wrote:

FreshTheCat wrote:

cambegone wrote:

snip

Last time I checked, it's not illegal to tell the one doing a crime to stop and also call the police
it isn't, right?

It's not illegal but that's not.. uh.. safe either. You should call the police without alerting the perpetrator that you are calling them, as the same as you should silently report to the Scratch Team instead of putting the other user on blast.

And that is the case for only some, and I must repeat, some scenarios. Jail, or punishment in general, isn't therapy or some other reason-giver. It might teach someone that something in specific isnt allowed.. but it doesnt reason with the inside mind, or counter the direct reason why something was done (I didn't include “or why the broken law was placed” due to Scratch already somewhat explaining that). People have different reasons for actions, and sometimes interaction is the best way to uncover that reason.