coooolboy55 wrote:

ArnoHu wrote:

Connect 4 Bot Game Series

I am conducting a Connect 4 Bot test game series played by Game of Connect (GoC).

The results will be updated in this posting over time. They will cover the Scratch runtime and TurboWarp (TW only if an engine takes advantage of the additional performance there), with both sides as starting players once (as far as the projects allow). When several playing levels exist, games will be played on highest level available for the runtime.

The Bots

• Connect 4 - “GoC”: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1114744709/ (by ArnoHu)
  
• Connect Four AI: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1109505895 (by BirdRacerThree)
  
• Connect 4 AI (GreenLocked): https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/42395968 (by PullJosh)
  
• Connect 4 AI: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/802293688 (by Spentine)
  
• Online Connect 4: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/685271634 (by AnotherKidOnScratch)
  
• Connect 4 vs. Computer: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/16243147 (by A_big_cow)
  

Scratch 3

Starting Side       Responding Side

GoC              -  CFAI (BirdRacer)     1  -  0    (win at ply 41)
GoC              -  C4AI (Spentine)      1  -  0    (win at ply 29)
GoC              -  C4AI-GL (PullJosh)   1  -  0    (win at ply 25)
GoC              -  OC4 (AKOS)           1  -  0    (win at ply 33)
GoC              -  OC4VC (ABC)          1  -  0    (win at ply 31)

CFAI (BirdRacer) -  GoC                0.5  -  0.5
C4AI (Spentine)  -  GoC                  0  -  1    (loss at ply 34)

TurboWarp

Starting Side       Responding Side

GoC              -  CFAI (BirdRacer)     1  -  0    (win at ply 31)
GoC              -  C4AI (Spentine)      1  -  0    (win at ply 39)

CFAI (BirdRacer) -  GoC                0.5  -  0.5
C4AI (Spentine)  -  GoC                  0  -  1    (loss at ply 42)

Note: GoC and BirdRacer's CFAI are think-time bound, hence not deterministic. They will play according to system speed (means, better on faster systems).

If you reply to this post, I suggest to link to it and remove the copied content, otherwise we will have outdated results copied over the forum. Here is the link to the original: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/8319884/

Will you be running another Connect 4 tournament?

ArnoHu wrote:

GoK Classic - Shallow Blue 3 NNUE, 89% vs. 86%:
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/ZyFQaV9d

GoK Classic - Wolverine 2 NNUE, 86% vs. 83%:
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/vVV4YDrr

coooolboy55 wrote:

I have stopped working on my Chess AI. I really don't like creating it.

coooolboy55 wrote:

I have stopped working on my Chess AI. I really don't like creating it.

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iceysnowman wrote:

coooolboy55 wrote:

I have stopped working on my Chess AI. I really don't like creating it.

Noooooo! Too bad, it could have ended up really well. I at least hope you continue to work on your Connect 4 bot, it's a really nice project and it's pretty decent.

Destructor_chess wrote:

coooolboy55 wrote:

I have stopped working on my Chess AI. I really don't like creating it.

Ah… You can ask others, I said that too many times. But well, chess programming is too much attractive, you'll see.

coooolboy55 wrote:

Destructor_chess wrote:

coooolboy55 wrote:

I have stopped working on my Chess AI. I really don't like creating it.

Ah… You can ask others, I said that too many times. But well, chess programming is too much attractive, you'll see.

Yes. I am planning to create one in a text-based programming language after learning one. (I don't know how that will turn out, as I usually set my goals too high)

ArnoHu wrote:

GoK Classic vs. Wolverine 2, 87% vs. 90% (draw by stalemate after GoK lead, caused by endgame horizon effects due to check sequences and looming Wolverine promotion):
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/iHyqy9jv

GoK Classic vs. Wolverine 2, 94% vs. 91%:
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/ZBOc7qEL

GoK Classic vs. White Dove , 97% vs. 93%:
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/zRVjzS92

GoK Classic vs. GoK NNUE , 91% vs. 97%:
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/ZBOc7qEL

GoK NNUE vs. Black Crow, 98% vs. 92%:
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/GODLGJ5F

ArnoHu wrote:

GoK Classic vs. Wolverine 2, 87% vs. 90% (draw by stalemate after GoK lead, caused by endgame horizon effects due to check sequences and looming Wolverine promotion):
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/iHyqy9jv

waabooboo wrote:

ArnoHu wrote:

GoK Classic vs. Wolverine 2, 87% vs. 90% (draw by stalemate after GoK lead, caused by endgame horizon effects due to check sequences and looming Wolverine promotion):
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/iHyqy9jv

87% vs 90% is pretty generous by Lichess, that game was a mess…

7r/2NP4/8/1PPk4/P7/6p1/1K6/8 b - - 2 70 Wolverine actually has a win here, Stockfish gives this crazy mating net with Kc4 Ne8 g2 d8=Q Rh2. I can't blame Wolverine for not finding that. But I will blame Wolverine for that atrocious opening play…

ArnoHu wrote:

waabooboo wrote:

ArnoHu wrote:

GoK Classic vs. Wolverine 2, 87% vs. 90% (draw by stalemate after GoK lead, caused by endgame horizon effects due to check sequences and looming Wolverine promotion):
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/iHyqy9jv

87% vs 90% is pretty generous by Lichess, that game was a mess…

7r/2NP4/8/1PPk4/P7/6p1/1K6/8 b - - 2 70 Wolverine actually has a win here, Stockfish gives this crazy mating net with Kc4 Ne8 g2 d8=Q Rh2. I can't blame Wolverine for not finding that. But I will blame Wolverine for that atrocious opening play…

And I thought only GoK Classic has opening issues

waabooboo wrote:

ArnoHu wrote:

waabooboo wrote:

ArnoHu wrote:

GoK Classic vs. Wolverine 2, 87% vs. 90% (draw by stalemate after GoK lead, caused by endgame horizon effects due to check sequences and looming Wolverine promotion):
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/iHyqy9jv

87% vs 90% is pretty generous by Lichess, that game was a mess…

7r/2NP4/8/1PPk4/P7/6p1/1K6/8 b - - 2 70 Wolverine actually has a win here, Stockfish gives this crazy mating net with Kc4 Ne8 g2 d8=Q Rh2. I can't blame Wolverine for not finding that. But I will blame Wolverine for that atrocious opening play…

And I thought only GoK Classic has opening issues

Ha, well Wolverine doesn't even have an opening book, probably it wouldn't hurt to add one. But I feel like a strong program should be able to figure out the opening on the fly – bad opening play is indicative of bad understanding more generally…

r1bqkr2/pp1npp2/3p2p1/3P2Pp/3R1Pn1/2N2Q2/PPP4P/2K2BNR w q - 1 14
I mean, this is silly stuff.

0.265: 5 : Search start, depth = 5
0.329: 5 : 90 : -266
0.335: 5 : 418 : -248
0.337: PV: [FEN "r1bqk2r/pp1npp2/3p2p1/3P2Pp/3R1Pn1/2N2Q2/PPP4P/2K2BNR b"] Qd8b6 Ng1e2 Nd7c5 h2h3 e7e5 d5e6 Nc5xe6 

ArnoHu wrote:

waabooboo wrote:

ArnoHu wrote:

waabooboo wrote:

ArnoHu wrote:

GoK Classic vs. Wolverine 2, 87% vs. 90% (draw by stalemate after GoK lead, caused by endgame horizon effects due to check sequences and looming Wolverine promotion):
https://lichess.org/study/PJTsaIt9/iHyqy9jv

87% vs 90% is pretty generous by Lichess, that game was a mess…

7r/2NP4/8/1PPk4/P7/6p1/1K6/8 b - - 2 70 Wolverine actually has a win here, Stockfish gives this crazy mating net with Kc4 Ne8 g2 d8=Q Rh2. I can't blame Wolverine for not finding that. But I will blame Wolverine for that atrocious opening play…

And I thought only GoK Classic has opening issues

Ha, well Wolverine doesn't even have an opening book, probably it wouldn't hurt to add one. But I feel like a strong program should be able to figure out the opening on the fly – bad opening play is indicative of bad understanding more generally…

r1bqkr2/pp1npp2/3p2p1/3P2Pp/3R1Pn1/2N2Q2/PPP4P/2K2BNR w q - 1 14
I mean, this is silly stuff.

OK, at least Classic finds a decent move at depth 5 (if that's what you mean?)

0.265: 5 : Search start, depth = 5
0.329: 5 : 90 : -266
0.335: 5 : 418 : -248
0.337: PV: [FEN "r1bqk2r/pp1npp2/3p2p1/3P2Pp/3R1Pn1/2N2Q2/PPP4P/2K2BNR b"] Qd8b6 Ng1e2 Nd7c5 h2h3 e7e5 d5e6 Nc5xe6