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trystudio
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

(haha i can't stop making new pages XD)

aj_studio11 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

(#756)

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

(#476)

-carlos-n wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

gotta love how the wayback machine JUST archived the link for gyrow 2 weeks ago like it’s still gonna be helpful (its not)
Link?
https://web.archive.org/web/20250815021823/http://web.media.mit.edu/%7Exercyn/sound/gloobic/05.09.25/09%20s6%20-%20gryrow.mp3

the only URL saved is just the page data and not the music
that was just late as this search started, maybe it would be gone too far if it was actually found and archived while Pralax 19 wasn't found and archived and might the opposite EVEN will be gone away since Teletoon's shutdown.
UPDATE: maaaaaan, very recently, even 19 have also gotten the same thing and just followed a suit too. but it's also not more helpful enough at all.
The useless archived link for pralax doesn't work anymore, What Now?
Should you keep finding and looking for the archived IV?
I don't think so, yeah i'm still trying my best but as much as i try harder than i expected.

Last edited by trystudio (Nov. 9, 2025 08:46:28)

aj_studio11
Scratcher
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

trystudio wrote:

(haha i can't stop making new pages XD)

aj_studio11 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

(#756)
that was just late as this search started, maybe it would be gone too far if it was actually found and archived while Pralax 19 wasn't found and archived and might the opposite EVEN will be gone away since Teletoon's shutdown.
UPDATE: maaaaaan, very recently, even 19 have also gotten the same thing and just followed a suit too. but it's also not more helpful enough at all.
The useless archived link for pralax doesn't work anymore, What Now?
Should you keep finding and looking for the archived IV?
I don't think so, yeah i'm still trying my best but as much as i try harder than i expected.
Knolls Unfortunately Doesn't Have Their Own Website Unlike Before, and you said that Jeff's account was deleted around 2022, so have you given up so far?

Last edited by aj_studio11 (Nov. 9, 2025 08:50:32)

trystudio
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

aj_studio11 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

(haha i can't stop making new pages XD)

aj_studio11 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

(#756)
that was just late as this search started, maybe it would be gone too far if it was actually found and archived while Pralax 19 wasn't found and archived and might the opposite EVEN will be gone away since Teletoon's shutdown.
UPDATE: maaaaaan, very recently, even 19 have also gotten the same thing and just followed a suit too. but it's also not more helpful enough at all.
The useless archived link for pralax doesn't work anymore, What Now?
Should you keep finding and looking for the archived IV?
I don't think so, yeah i'm still trying my best but as much as i try harder than i expected.
Knolls Unfortunately Doesn't Have Their Own Website Unlike Before, and you said that Jeff's account was deleted around 2022, so have you given up so far?
short answer: no.
long answer: welp, i didn't give up after checking for everything that are related to gloobic, whenever as nothing much as i check (i did check for all of the mit domains to see anything if there was “~xercyn” out there), but, i'll not say that 19 and Gryrow is now considered fully lost media; but rather than this, i won't give up, i'm still trying my best as i can, but anyone have any alternatives or mirror shortcuts yet?
aj_studio11
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100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Gr8Gatsby wrote:

Gr8Gatsby wrote:

Dance Magic - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Sorry guys i did discover the full song (the other parts are corrupted-like sounds, kinda weird. Also, this is not just a sample of Dance magic, as it is complete and features a twice as long portion of dance magic. Unfortunately, i believe I posted my findings only on one topic and I don't recall what it is.

Sorry guys my bad
I have retraced my work thoroughly and refound the original song!


On November 23, 2015, The song ruzie maken liedje was created. The song upon searching sends you to a youtube release of it, created 10 years later (this year). Other then the section that was sampled by Scratch Team, most of the song is static notes and stuff.

If you want to get to the section, go to 0:12

Hope this helped!
I Would Say Two Things:

• This song “ruzie maken liedje” is from not only made in the same year when dance mageic and aroound created in 2015, “November 23” was the date after it was created in june 8.
• This is not the origin of dance magic, the guy who created that one video you found did not make it. but as long as only someone made it. i coudn't know what to say anyways.

Why do you think it was though?
trystudio
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

is contacting Jeff nor Eric a good or bad idea? i mean the former is still alive by posting a video about him playing a piano.
dsrrfvrhg
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

jimsahur wrote:

I cant stop thinking about how we got to 1000 posts
i think is me that started that, when i entered this forum
trystudio
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

(#814)

thedolphin_ wrote:

Some of the really old ones might be from the programmers of Scratch itself.
Thats already known because as far as we know:
Jay Silver likely asked his brother Beau Silver to make Cave, Xylo4, Triumph, Medieval1 & 2, Garden, Drum, and Drum Machine
Jeff Lieberman (gloobic/knolls) was a scratch team member, so he likely had added Pralax and Gyrow to Scratch himself.
same static sound in the background and almost same metadata (the difference it has no comments in the scratch one) in Techno 2/Pralax 19 could meaning that he used the mixed versions which is why the metadata made people grabbed the mass ave sessions versions instead of the “full” ones, but if its that lost media when he used the actual full versions instead of the mixed ones, this would've been more dead.
aj_studio11
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

trystudio wrote:

(#621)
King of the page!

something's weird strange about the drum loops:

4. and Intro Superllanero that used the Jungle / Bigkat loop wasn't an “exact match” (i compared it and the length between the original one and the sampled one aren't the same they are just edited).
You Really Sure Jungle Is A Drum Loop?
trystudio
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

aj_studio11 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

something's weird strange about the drum loops:

4. and Intro Superllanero that used the Jungle / Bigkat loop wasn't an “exact match” (i compared it and the length between the original one and the sampled one aren't the same they are just edited).
You Really Sure Jungle Is A Drum Loop?
i think its a drum loop so.
trystudio
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

trystudio wrote:

(#1010)

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

alright! here is one thing to do, haven't you check for all of the mit domains with the “~xercyn” directory thing yet? :P
No, but I did end up finding the main MIT page for xercyn on the way back machine not too long ago
wait you mean the one that said “e n t e r”?

i have already suggested you something while quoting that but you might have missed something tho whenever you were sent to the jeff thing.

trystudio wrote:

(#1011)
try checking previous pages then try the guides i've did.
UPDATE:
aj_studio11
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

trystudio wrote:

UPDATE:
What……?
trystudio
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

aj_studio11 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

UPDATE:
What……?
i just said nothing after that word because it's linked in there.
aj_studio11
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

trystudio wrote:

aj_studio11 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

UPDATE:
What……?
i just said nothing after that word because it's linked in there.
I was so confuesd to what you just said by the update word.
aj_studio11
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

trystudio wrote:

aj_studio11 wrote:

Knolls Unfortunately Doesn't Have Their Own Website Unlike Before, and you said that Jeff's account was deleted around 2022, so have you given up so far?
short answer: no.
long answer: welp, i didn't give up after checking for everything that are related to gloobic, whenever as nothing much as i check (i did check for all of the mit domains to see anything if there was “~xercyn” out there), but, i'll not say that 19 and Gryrow is now considered fully lost media; but rather than this, i won't give up, i'm still trying my best as i can, but anyone have any alternatives or mirror shortcuts yet?
So that would take forever to find an only archive of that vault, and how can you find it anyways? I said there was. still Currently no way.
trystudio
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

aj_studio11 wrote:

trystudio wrote:

aj_studio11 wrote:

Knolls Unfortunately Doesn't Have Their Own Website Unlike Before, and you said that Jeff's account was deleted around 2022, so have you given up so far?
short answer: no.
long answer: welp, i didn't give up after checking for everything that are related to gloobic, whenever as nothing much as i check (i did check for all of the mit domains to see anything if there was “~xercyn” out there), but, i'll not say that 19 and Gryrow is now considered fully lost media; but rather than this, i won't give up, i'm still trying my best as i can, but anyone have any alternatives or mirror shortcuts yet?
So that would take forever to find an only archive of that vault, and how can you find it anyways? I said there was. still Currently no way.
random keywords in some archive websites.
aj_studio11
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Which Kaywords?

*Keywords
trystudio
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

aj_studio11 wrote:

Which Kaywords?

*Keywords
anything that's related to “xercyn” and “gloobic”.
jimsahur
Scratcher
97 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

I’m waiting…

wait until <[Both unmixed versions of technos] = [found]>

Last edited by jimsahur (Nov. 11, 2025 01:07:42)

trystudio
Scratcher
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

jimsahur wrote:

I’m waiting…

wait until <[Both unmixed versions of technos] = [found]>
i'm still on it!
aj_studio11
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Last edited by aj_studio11 (Nov. 11, 2025 02:45:49)

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