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jimsahur
Scratcher
52 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

WigglyJoey wrote:

Maybe we should update our dance 2.0 loops finding

Dance Around - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Celebrate - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Chill Out - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Funky - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Head Nod - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Magic - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Slow Mo - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Snare - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Space - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
We should probably drop the scratch team theory for now, since we now know that Arts Impact could’ve had the files and shared them with ST

I wish we could talk to PAA kids to know the origin of those loops
WigglyJoey
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

jimsahur wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

WigglyJoey wrote:

Maybe we should update our dance 2.0 loops finding

Dance Around - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Celebrate - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Chill Out - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Funky - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Head Nod - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Magic - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Slow Mo - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Snare - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Space - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
We should probably drop the scratch team theory for now, since we now know that Arts Impact could’ve had the files and shared them with ST

I wish we could talk to PAA kids to know the origin of those loops
They are probably adults know (or close to 18) so there's a possibility we could contact them.
SpikeandSnoopy
Scratcher
11 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

WigglyJoey wrote:

jimsahur wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

WigglyJoey wrote:

Maybe we should update our dance 2.0 loops finding

Dance Around - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Celebrate - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Chill Out - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Funky - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Head Nod - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Magic - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Slow Mo - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Snare - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
Dance Space - POSSIBLY by the Scratch Team or the Arts Impact (Known as progressive arts alliance at the time) (SOURCE NOT FOUND)
We should probably drop the scratch team theory for now, since we now know that Arts Impact could’ve had the files and shared them with ST

I wish we could talk to PAA kids to know the origin of those loops
They are probably adults know (or close to 18) so there's a possibility we could contact them.
The PAA is unlikely or was in motion prior to 2015 as I found the dance loops were in scratch version v422 (I think that was the version?) and somebody else on this topic said with a proof link that the version was made somewhere before or during April
Imtwentytenth
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

It's so lucky coincidence. Yesterday I was searching for 2.0 sounds and asked in QaS, and then someone moved to the top this topic
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Imtwentytenth wrote:

It's so lucky coincidence. Yesterday I was searching for 2.0 sounds and asked in QaS, and then someone moved to the top this topic
2.0 sounds? Do you mean the sound effects? Cuz this topic is for music loops and the sfx topic is here but it would still be nice to have a helper in this topic
jimsahur
Scratcher
52 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

How close are we to finding all the loops (I mean like percent - %)

Just quote this and fill this:

Found:

Creator confirmed but no source or extended version is found:

Creator unconfirmed but we have some info:

Unknown:

Total as of September 2025:

Gr8Gatsby
Scratcher
38 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

I'm pretty sure I shared the origin I found of dance magic. check my posts!
jimsahur
Scratcher
52 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Gr8Gatsby wrote:

I'm pretty sure I shared the origin I found of dance magic. check my posts!

Where is it?
SpikeandSnoopy
Scratcher
11 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

jimsahur wrote:

Gr8Gatsby wrote:

I'm pretty sure I shared the origin I found of dance magic. check my posts!

Where is it?
Page 23 post 459. Unfortunately, it was just a mashup mix video released earlier this year (2025) and Dance Magic released sometime back in 2015
jimsahur
Scratcher
52 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

SpikeandSnoopy wrote:

jimsahur wrote:

Gr8Gatsby wrote:

I'm pretty sure I shared the origin I found of dance magic. check my posts!

Where is it?
Page 23 post 459. Unfortunately, it was just a mashup mix video released earlier this year (2025) and Dance Magic released sometime back in 2015

Already watched it before that reply
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

So guys, do you remember not too long ago when we found out that some of the dance tracks (magic and around i think those were the dance tracks) were released in .mp3 for a short while and I found that every known project with them were all in .wav? Well I think I have the explanation. 1: Every .mp3 file from scratch versions prior to 2.0 were converted to mp3 and 2: Scratch team likely has the mp3 versions so maybe we could contact them? Cuz why would they have .mp3 in the name when they first released?
jimsahur
Scratcher
52 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

So guys, do you remember not too long ago when we found out that some of the dance tracks (magic and around i think those were the dance tracks) were released in .mp3 for a short while and I found that every known project with them were all in .wav? Well I think I have the explanation. 1: Every .mp3 file from scratch versions prior to 2.0 were converted to mp3 and 2: Scratch team likely has the mp3 versions so maybe we could contact them? Cuz why would they have .mp3 in the name when they first released?

Do some of the members of the scratch team know that they have the origins?
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

jimsahur wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

So guys, do you remember not too long ago when we found out that some of the dance tracks (magic and around i think those were the dance tracks) were released in .mp3 for a short while and I found that every known project with them were all in .wav? Well I think I have the explanation. 1: Every .mp3 file from scratch versions prior to 2.0 were converted to mp3 and 2: Scratch team likely has the mp3 versions so maybe we could contact them? Cuz why would they have .mp3 in the name when they first released?

Do some of the members of the scratch team know that they have the origins?
Likely, because they downloaded them (or composed them possibly) and might likely have the .mp3 files for them (and btw, mp3 files store artist, name, release date, and album metadata which the release version of the dance tracks in 2.0 (.wav) do NOT have)

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (Sept. 20, 2025 21:50:17)

jimsahur
Scratcher
52 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

jimsahur wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

So guys, do you remember not too long ago when we found out that some of the dance tracks (magic and around i think those were the dance tracks) were released in .mp3 for a short while and I found that every known project with them were all in .wav? Well I think I have the explanation. 1: Every .mp3 file from scratch versions prior to 2.0 were converted to mp3 and 2: Scratch team likely has the mp3 versions so maybe we could contact them? Cuz why would they have .mp3 in the name when they first released?

Do some of the members of the scratch team know that they have the origins?
Likely, because they downloaded them (or composed them possibly) and might likely have the .mp3 files for them (and btw, mp3 files store artist, name, release date, and album metadata which the release version of the dance tracks in 2.0 (.wav) do NOT have)

Oh, so anyway if scratch 4.0 releases and there will be new loops, will it be harder?
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

jimsahur wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

jimsahur wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

So guys, do you remember not too long ago when we found out that some of the dance tracks (magic and around i think those were the dance tracks) were released in .mp3 for a short while and I found that every known project with them were all in .wav? Well I think I have the explanation. 1: Every .mp3 file from scratch versions prior to 2.0 were converted to mp3 and 2: Scratch team likely has the mp3 versions so maybe we could contact them? Cuz why would they have .mp3 in the name when they first released?

Do some of the members of the scratch team know that they have the origins?
Likely, because they downloaded them (or composed them possibly) and might likely have the .mp3 files for them (and btw, mp3 files store artist, name, release date, and album metadata which the release version of the dance tracks in 2.0 (.wav) do NOT have)

Oh, so anyway if scratch 4.0 releases and there will be new loops, will it be harder?
Likely no, as the ST has appeared to use more mainstream artists and had began crediting the artists too. (Started in 3.0)

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (Sept. 20, 2025 21:55:56)

jimsahur
Scratcher
52 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Wait!!!

I have a theory. So if drum is a short track made by beau silver, then wouldn’t that mean “drip drop,” “human beatbox 2” and xylo3 were made by beau silver too? Idk.
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

jimsahur wrote:

Wait!!!

I have a theory. So if drum is a short track made by beau silver, then wouldn’t that mean “drip drop,” “human beatbox 2” and xylo3 were made by beau silver too? Idk.
No.. I don’t really think so.. It was clear that Beau Silver was put in the metadata of his tracks and that wasn’t done for drip drop, human beatbox2, and xylo3. Also their quality doesnt exactly match Beau silver’s tracks.
jimsahur
Scratcher
52 posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]


Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

jimsahur wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

jimsahur wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

So guys, do you remember not too long ago when we found out that some of the dance tracks (magic and around i think those were the dance tracks) were released in .mp3 for a short while and I found that every known project with them were all in .wav? Well I think I have the explanation. 1: Every .mp3 file from scratch versions prior to 2.0 were converted to mp3 and 2: Scratch team likely has the mp3 versions so maybe we could contact them? Cuz why would they have .mp3 in the name when they first released?

Do some of the members of the scratch team know that they have the origins?
Likely, because they downloaded them (or composed them possibly) and might likely have the .mp3 files for them (and btw, mp3 files store artist, name, release date, and album metadata which the release version of the dance tracks in 2.0 (.wav) do NOT have)

Oh, so anyway if scratch 4.0 releases and there will be new loops, will it be harder?
Likely no, as the ST has appeared to use more mainstream artists and had began crediting the artists too. (Started in 3.0)

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

jimsahur wrote:

Wait!!!

I have a theory. So if drum is a short track made by beau silver, then wouldn’t that mean “drip drop,” “human beatbox 2” and xylo3 were made by beau silver too? Idk.
No.. I don’t really think so.. It was clear that Beau Silver was put in the metadata of his tracks and that wasn’t done for drip drop, human beatbox2, and xylo3. Also their quality doesnt exactly match Beau silver’s tracks.

If it was done for those tracks, we would be happy
mtaka4
Scratcher
100+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

Afaik it's not a matter of decoding but finding the file that identifies the hashed files!
Like when you download a scratch project and unpack it the files are identified in project.json, so there must be something like that in the Scratch program itself? I can probably look into it myself, later…
Ohhhh the .json? From what I’ve seen so far the sound effects (the ones I’ve seen so far) are the same name as their website counterparts.
Darn. I figured as much tbh but it's always worth checking anyways
also I found this in the files
I saw that image in a very old project once. Gonna check again to see if I can find it.
Edit: couldn't find yet but I found this https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/3747/

Last edited by mtaka4 (Sept. 22, 2025 00:14:39)

Fun_Cupcake_i81
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

That was a backdrop in 2.0. But discussing backdrop origins would be another topic entirely.

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