PaperMarioFan2024 wrote:

(#120)
Why do we need this removed? The feature actually works, seeing how it does for example.
When it's not detected:

My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, No Flash version detected

When it is detected:

My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, Flash version detected

This example only happens if the flash version is detected, vise versa, that is if you still use flash.

Other than that though, this would break the thing.

Why would you not need this removed? Flash died 4 years ago, and doesn't even let you use it anymore. No part of Scratch in its current state uses it anymore.

It's hard to change the forum code, but it should get removed, maybe in the next forum update.
My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 129.0.0.0, No Flash version detected

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

PaperMarioFan2024 wrote:

(#120)
Why do we need this removed? The feature actually works, seeing how it does for example.
When it's not detected:

My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, No Flash version detected

When it is detected:

My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 126.0.0.0, Flash version detected

This example only happens if the flash version is detected, vise versa, that is if you still use flash.

Other than that though, this would break the thing.

Why would you not need this removed? Flash died 4 years ago, and doesn't even let you use it anymore. No part of Scratch in its current state uses it anymore.

Yea, I'm not sure how exactly it would break anything.

I agree this should be done, however what if it was replaced with whether your browser supports WebGL or not?
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 128.0.0.0, No Flash version detected
->
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 128.0.0.0, WebGL is supported
or
My browser / operating system: Windows 2000, Internet Explorer 5.5, WebGL is NOT supported

-gr wrote:

I agree this should be done, however what if it was replaced with whether your browser supports WebGL or not?
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 128.0.0.0, No Flash version detected
->
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 128.0.0.0, WebGL is supported
or
My browser / operating system: Windows 2000, Internet Explorer 5.5, WebGL is NOT supported

Yeah, that's probably a good idea- although you will never see your second example, because even scratchr2 can't run on IE5.5.

Although I would also like to bring up the counterpoint that it is very useful for helping debug when people are trying to use the 2.0 offline editor.

Please don't.
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 132.0.0.0, No Flash versions detected
Some people actually still have flash on their browser/system, like i have it (But i don't know why it says i don't) and flash can cause bugs to Scratch. It's very handy to keep that in there, thanks.

PIXEL_BY_PIXEL_ERROR wrote:

(#126)
Please don't.
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 132.0.0.0, No Flash versions detected
Some people actually still have flash on their browser/system, like i have it (But i don't know why it says i don't) and flash can cause bugs to Scratch. It's very handy to keep that in there, thanks.

it can't. scratch does not run on Flash anymore.

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

PIXEL_BY_PIXEL_ERROR wrote:

(#126)
Please don't.
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 132.0.0.0, No Flash versions detected
Some people actually still have flash on their browser/system, like i have it (But i don't know why it says i don't) and flash can cause bugs to Scratch. It's very handy to keep that in there, thanks.

it can't. scratch does not run on Flash anymore.

I've found out that my flash player likes to conflict with HTML.

PIXEL_BY_PIXEL_ERROR wrote:

(#128)

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

PIXEL_BY_PIXEL_ERROR wrote:

(#126)
Please don't.
My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 132.0.0.0, No Flash versions detected
Some people actually still have flash on their browser/system, like i have it (But i don't know why it says i don't) and flash can cause bugs to Scratch. It's very handy to keep that in there, thanks.

it can't. scratch does not run on Flash anymore.

I've found out that my flash player likes to conflict with HTML.

So then you should delete it? Why do you even have a flash in your browser? That was supposed to stop working 5 years ago.

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

So then you should delete it? Why do you even have a flash in your browser? That was supposed to stop working 5 years ago.

It's useful for playing old games or seeing stuff on old pages. There's a browser extension that gives some flash support, and there are ways to actually install the Flash Player on modern browsers and operating systems.

Bringing this topic up because someone mentioned it here
https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/837932/

support, since flash is basically gone nowadays. yes, you could still edit it out, but after a while it gets annoying to do the same thing over and over again everytime you need it.

My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 140.0.0.0, “No Flash versions detected”
What if someone is still usig flash? I get that it's obsolete now, but I still use it. Also last time i said something like this you all said “but flash is gone it was removed like 4 years ago lol bozo” so please don't-

PIXEL_BY_PIXEL_ERROR wrote:

My browser / operating system: Windows NT 10.0, Chrome 140.0.0.0, “No Flash versions detected”
What if someone is still usig flash? I get that it's obsolete now, but I still use it. Also last time i said something like this you all said “but flash is gone it was removed like 4 years ago lol bozo” so please don't-

The problem is that the reason why the forums have the detection in the first place is because Scratch 2.0 used Flash. This made it useful to have in case a specific Flash version caused an issue with a project or Scratch. However, because Scratch 3.0 doesn't use Flash, it doesn't really make sense to have it on Scratch.
Maybe it could be replaced with a WebGL detector if possible, like this:
My browser / operating system: Windows 7, Chrome 139.0.0.0, WebGL supported and working
My browser / operating system: Windows 7, Chrome 139.0.0.0, WebGL supported but not working
My browser / operating system: Windows idk what to put, stuff, WebGL unsupported
Edit: Also, I'm not sure if this works but can you try just turning on Flash only when you actually need it