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Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

charmander83 wrote:

loganjb51444 wrote:

(#99)
Bossa nova is in geo dash
Bossa Nova has already been found and it's a kevin macleod song so I could totally see it being in geometry dash.
Ik this isn’t gonna be helpful but here’s a video link of the song playing in the GD shop
charmander83
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

(#101)

charmander83 wrote:

loganjb51444 wrote:

(#99)
Bossa nova is in geo dash
Bossa Nova has already been found and it's a kevin macleod song so I could totally see it being in geometry dash.
Ik this isn’t gonna be helpful but here’s a video link of the song playing in the GD shop
where did bro get so many orbs
-carlos-n
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

charmander83 wrote:

loganjb51444 wrote:

(#99)
Bossa nova is in geo dash
Bossa Nova has already been found and it's a kevin macleod song so I could totally see it being in geometry dash.
i mean It IS in geometry dash as a shop loop
WigglyJoey
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

UPDATE

The “Drive around” track is NOT drive the bouncer, but instead is Three of four by James trek-e smith (released in 2006), according to the scratch wiki. I have also listened to the song and at the 3:42 second mark the track begins. Also, Drive the Bouncer was released in 2020 which is one year after scratch 3.0 released. I confirmed this as the album’s first song is “The Movie days in 2020” and also obviously the release dates for the songs are listed as 2020. Drive the Bouncer is a similar situation to Andro1t’s Dance track, which was released a year before (or months after judging from sources) 3.0 was released, which that would be pretty late in 2.0’s release to add new dance tracks. (Update - I noticed the BT credit, but Three of Four predates it by one year)

The scratch wiki now edited it to drive the bouncer.
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

WigglyJoey wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

UPDATE

The “Drive around” track is NOT drive the bouncer, but instead is Three of four by James trek-e smith (released in 2006), according to the scratch wiki. I have also listened to the song and at the 3:42 second mark the track begins. Also, Drive the Bouncer was released in 2020 which is one year after scratch 3.0 released. I confirmed this as the album’s first song is “The Movie days in 2020” and also obviously the release dates for the songs are listed as 2020. Drive the Bouncer is a similar situation to Andro1t’s Dance track, which was released a year before (or months after judging from sources) 3.0 was released, which that would be pretty late in 2.0’s release to add new dance tracks. (Update - I noticed the BT credit, but Three of Four predates it by one year)

The scratch wiki now edited it to drive the bouncer.
I did that edit, because turns out it was drive the bouncer all along as sound cloud had glitched out and showed three of four has released in 2006 which is impossible cause SoundCloud wasn’t publicly released until 2008
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

I think Rhodes piano may truly be by ericr. I took the elec piano loop from the loop library and took the first note from it and replaced half of the Rhodes C1 note recording in his piano toy project with the first note of elec piano loop and the quality and sound were nearly the exact same (aside from a random clip noise) (also off topic but imo the mass ave session album feels like scary or eerie, not I’m gonna hide under the covers scary or hyperventilate scary but it just feels eerie like a liminal space yet there’s something so comforting about the album, I get these feelings strongly from bickloo)

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (July 7, 2025 23:34:07)

Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Looking in the sprites and remixes of the Rhodes c major loop 120 project managed to make me stumble upon a scrapped flute loop in the “super final” remix made by ericr, it is unknown what it sounded like but there’s proof of it existing as in the code of the apple sprite it has a sound block for the loop.

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (July 9, 2025 22:20:40)

Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

Looking in the sprites and remixes of the Rhodes c major loop 120 project managed to make me stumble upon a scrapped flute loop in the “super final” remix made by ericr, it is unknown what it sounded like but there’s proof of it existing as in the code of the apple sprite it has a sound block for the loop.
Huh, that's interesting!
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

Looking in the sprites and remixes of the Rhodes c major loop 120 project managed to make me stumble upon a scrapped flute loop in the “super final” remix made by ericr, it is unknown what it sounded like but there’s proof of it existing as in the code of the apple sprite it has a sound block for the loop.
Huh, that's interesting!
We may never know what it will sound like, as the only version of the project on the wayback machine unfortunately doesn’t work.
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

I JUST FOUND SOMETHING!

I was bored and wanted to look for the origin of the vocal tracks from the 1.4 library (I did make some progress with Hey yay Hey and discovered it too was downloaded from samplenet) but after finding the possible origin of Hey Yay Hey I thought “What if the metadata for the tracks in 1.4 from the files from 1.4 are different than 3.0?” So I downloaded the DripDrop file from 1.4 (Turns out the file’s name doesn’t have a space unlike 3.0) and I ended up finding that the title (not file name, the song title) is DripDrop and it was encoded with iTunes v7.0.2.16, which was NOT said in the metadata for the 3.0 version. No artist or albums was listed though, so there may be a slight chance Drip Drop is an original track.
WigglyJoey
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

I JUST FOUND SOMETHING!

I was bored and wanted to look for the origin of the vocal tracks from the 1.4 library (I did make some progress with Hey yay Hey and discovered it too was downloaded from samplenet) but after finding the possible origin of Hey Yay Hey I thought “What if the metadata for the tracks in 1.4 from the files from 1.4 are different than 3.0?” So I downloaded the DripDrop file from 1.4 (Turns out the file’s name doesn’t have a space unlike 3.0) and I ended up finding that the title (not file name, the song title) is DripDrop and it was encoded with iTunes v7.0.2.16, which was NOT said in the metadata for the 3.0 version. No artist or albums was listed though, so there may be a slight chance Drip Drop is an original track.
Maybe try doing so on xylo 3 and human beatbox2
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

WigglyJoey wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

I JUST FOUND SOMETHING!

I was bored and wanted to look for the origin of the vocal tracks from the 1.4 library (I did make some progress with Hey yay Hey and discovered it too was downloaded from samplenet) but after finding the possible origin of Hey Yay Hey I thought “What if the metadata for the tracks in 1.4 from the files from 1.4 are different than 3.0?” So I downloaded the DripDrop file from 1.4 (Turns out the file’s name doesn’t have a space unlike 3.0) and I ended up finding that the title (not file name, the song title) is DripDrop and it was encoded with iTunes v7.0.2.16, which was NOT said in the metadata for the 3.0 version. No artist or albums was listed though, so there may be a slight chance Drip Drop is an original track.
Maybe try doing so on xylo 3 and human beatbox2

Xylo3: No artist, no album, but the title is listed as xylo3 (difference is that it isn’t uppercase) and it was encoded with iTunes v7.0.2.16. (Checking the track with apple’s file info system, the track is said to have been downloaded OR modified at 6:07 PM on January 2nd of 2007, a few months before scratch 1.4 publicly released, and an hour after HumanBeatbox2 was downloaded OR modified. Also every xylo track’s metadata has no uppercases.)

Human Beatbox2: No artist, No album, but it’s called just “Beatbox” and it was encoded with iTunes v7.0.2.16. (Checking the track with apple’s file info system, the track is said to have been downloaded OR modified at 5:07 PM on January 2nd of 2007, a few months before scratch 1.4 publicly released, and released a hour before Xylo3 was downloaded OR modified)

Either the titles are the track named or what they were titled when being put together and renamed in the official release, but this is something knowing that the tracks aren’t named the same in the files then they are the metadata.

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (July 11, 2025 00:09:45)

Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

I’m gonna check 2.0’s sounds now in hopes of it working, but from what I’ve seen so far with unpacking the 2.0 media files for Mac is that they are VERY disorganized and not named properly (jumbles of numbers and letters). Update: no luck metadata just shows the 3.0 metadata (and the .exe version is unorganized too)

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (July 10, 2025 23:51:13)

Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

update: all my findings were useless all of the tracks (except for xylo 1 and 2 which were made on Jan 2nd and eggs which was made on the same day of all the other tracks but was created at about 12:30 I think if I remember) were all made on the same day with many at the same time. sorry for the misleading

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (July 11, 2025 02:16:45)

medians
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

By the way, I can't comment on your profile since I get logged out too fast, so I have to say this here
“No, like what I mean is the position is supposed to be randomized, and shouldn't always be the same thing. I think what happened was they made some random sprite in a 3.0 prototype or 2.0, saved it, and it happened to be at x = 36 and y = 28. If I remember correctly, it had something to do with Scratch using scratchX and scratchY for 2.0 sprites instead of x and y for 3.0 sprite. However, I think when blank sprites are created, it generates with ”scratchX“ and ”scratchY“ instead of ”x“ and ”y“. The code uses something like sprite.x = (random number) and sprite.y = (random number), which doesn't change 2.0 sprites”
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

medians wrote:

By the way, I can't comment on your profile since I get logged out too fast, so I have to say this here
“No, like what I mean is the position is supposed to be randomized, and shouldn't always be the same thing. I think what happened was they made some random sprite in a 3.0 prototype or 2.0, saved it, and it happened to be at x = 36 and y = 28. If I remember correctly, it had something to do with Scratch using scratchX and scratchY for 2.0 sprites instead of x and y for 3.0 sprite. However, I think when blank sprites are created, it generates with ”scratchX“ and ”scratchY“ instead of ”x“ and ”y“. The code uses something like sprite.x = (random number) and sprite.y = (random number), which doesn't change 2.0 sprites”
#wrongforum
medians
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

medians wrote:

By the way, I can't comment on your profile since I get logged out too fast, so I have to say this here
“No, like what I mean is the position is supposed to be randomized, and shouldn't always be the same thing. I think what happened was they made some random sprite in a 3.0 prototype or 2.0, saved it, and it happened to be at x = 36 and y = 28. If I remember correctly, it had something to do with Scratch using scratchX and scratchY for 2.0 sprites instead of x and y for 3.0 sprite. However, I think when blank sprites are created, it generates with ”scratchX“ and ”scratchY“ instead of ”x“ and ”y“. The code uses something like sprite.x = (random number) and sprite.y = (random number), which doesn't change 2.0 sprites”
#wrongforum
No, I was trying to say this to Fun_Cupcake_i81 by notifying her, but I couldn't comment on her profile because Scratch logged me out by the time I could reply (on the forums, I was able to reply fast enough)
Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting logged out anymore I don't think, but here's the empty asset and randomization code that shows what I mean:
https://github.com/scratchfoundation/scratch-gui/blob/8a7a95e5c3b70783006de3b849be1a1a239548c5/src/lib/empty-assets.js#L51
https://github.com/scratchfoundation/scratch-gui/blob/8a7a95e5c3b70783006de3b849be1a1a239548c5/src/lib/randomize-sprite-position.js#L4
Edit 2:
Found this, it wasn't being done for some reason??
https://github.com/scratchfoundation/scratch-gui/pull/8489/files
Anyway, this fixes the scratchX thingy

Last edited by medians (July 11, 2025 22:50:28)

Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

medians wrote:

Scratch_Cat_Coder8 wrote:

medians wrote:

By the way, I can't comment on your profile since I get logged out too fast, so I have to say this here
“No, like what I mean is the position is supposed to be randomized, and shouldn't always be the same thing. I think what happened was they made some random sprite in a 3.0 prototype or 2.0, saved it, and it happened to be at x = 36 and y = 28. If I remember correctly, it had something to do with Scratch using scratchX and scratchY for 2.0 sprites instead of x and y for 3.0 sprite. However, I think when blank sprites are created, it generates with ”scratchX“ and ”scratchY“ instead of ”x“ and ”y“. The code uses something like sprite.x = (random number) and sprite.y = (random number), which doesn't change 2.0 sprites”
#wrongforum
No, I was trying to say this to Fun_Cupcake_i81 by notifying her, but I couldn't comment on her profile because Scratch logged me out by the time I could reply (on the forums, I could)
Edit: Anyway, I'm not getting logged out anymore I don't think, but here's the empty asset and randomization code that proves what I mean:
https://github.com/scratchfoundation/scratch-gui/blob/8a7a95e5c3b70783006de3b849be1a1a239548c5/src/lib/empty-assets.js#L51
https://github.com/scratchfoundation/scratch-gui/blob/8a7a95e5c3b70783006de3b849be1a1a239548c5/src/lib/randomize-sprite-position.js#L4
Ok sorry for misunderstanding

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (July 11, 2025 22:27:55)

Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Anyways, back on topic: That project actually was archived once, in 2022 — but the flute loop is still missing in that version, so I guess we'll never know!
Scratch_Cat_Coder8
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Where do the Music Loops Come From? [UPDATED]

Guys should we count the “Birthday” track in the sound library as a loop on the list? Like it is loopable but it isn’t categorized like a lot of other things that should be categorized like instruments that aren’t put in notes or percussion. Edit: if we do then it’s a 3.0 track btw

Last edited by Scratch_Cat_Coder8 (July 12, 2025 02:26:39)

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