FWGcats wrote:

Super-Cat-Poderoso21 wrote:

With Facebook, Arduino and Amazon is good

Are you saying you want to add signing in with social media into Scratch??

To OP: No support, adding Google sign-in will make kids more likely to tell each other their Gmail addresses, which leads to private communication, which is not allowed

I don't see how this holds true. Kids telling each other their online mail addresses on Scratch would remain against the rules as revealing private information; I also think this presumption falls apart as a whole variety of pages that use such log-in tools that only encourage ease of access to the website rather than cultivate the usage of external private communication.

I'm sorry if I missed something, since I didn’t read all three pages — but I just wanted to add my thoughts.

It seems like Scratch accounts are already connected to an email, often a parent’s. That’s not the same as using a full Google or Apple login, though.

millionofficial wrote:

Have you ever forgotten your username, password, and email connected to your Scratch account, or found them hard to remember? Well, no worries — you can use a Google or Apple account!

I get the idea, but a lot of people already use a browser that will save and autofill passwords, and Scratch has a “forgot password” tool too.

- Also, adding Google or Apple login might actually make Scratch less accessible to some kids.
- Not everyone has a Google or Apple account
- Those accounts often require users to be 13+ or have parental approval
- That might lead to some users lying about their age, just to make an account

AND BEFORE YOU COME OUT FOR ME BECAUSE YOU COULD STILL USE YOUR EMAIL- a lot of kids who do not have one will make an account on google or apple going “oh right seems easier”

Scratch is designed to follow COPPA and other kid-friendly privacy laws. Google and Apple might collect more personal data than Scratch currently does — things like names, device info, or location

also people might just want to remember their password-

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

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DifferentDance8 wrote:

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

you think there's 6 year olds and 8 year olds happily dancing around with their own Google or Apple account?

You may speak for yourself, but I've had a Google account since I was 12.

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

Isn't a google account quite literally just an electronic mail anyways?

I think you're getting Google and censored confused. Google does allow you to access censored, but Google is not censored in of itself.

First, well i got it when I was 10 or so, but I'm saying 5-8 year olds that also have scratch.

And no I'm not mixing them up, to create an account you need to make your email first

bruh I just found younger dumb me HAHHAHA only one year ago. I think it's because I used to think that google mail was the only kind of mail. I totally forgot about the microsoft or yahoo ones.

op456 wrote:

FWGcats wrote:

Super-Cat-Poderoso21 wrote:

With Facebook, Arduino and Amazon is good

Are you saying you want to add signing in with social media into Scratch??

To OP: No support, adding Google sign-in will make kids more likely to tell each other their Gmail addresses, which leads to private communication, which is not allowed

I don't see how this holds true. Kids telling each other their online mail addresses on Scratch would remain against the rules as revealing private information; I also think this presumption falls apart as a whole variety of pages that use such log-in tools that only encourage ease of access to the website rather than cultivate the usage of external private communication.

i didn't understand the second part so apologies if i say something that contradicts it

even though it's against the rules it would have a greater probability of happening. if you add logging in with Google someone will go “oh but it doesn't work how do I login with Google” and someone else might ask "what's your efilermail" etc. this could already happen, and i know there's a filter, but it raises the chance

FWGcats wrote:

op456 wrote:

FWGcats wrote:

Super-Cat-Poderoso21 wrote:

With Facebook, Arduino and Amazon is good

Are you saying you want to add signing in with social media into Scratch??

To OP: No support, adding Google sign-in will make kids more likely to tell each other their Gmail addresses, which leads to private communication, which is not allowed

I don't see how this holds true. Kids telling each other their online mail addresses on Scratch would remain against the rules as revealing private information; I also think this presumption falls apart as a whole variety of pages that use such log-in tools that only encourage ease of access to the website rather than cultivate the usage of external private communication.

i didn't understand the second part so apologies if i say something that contradicts it

even though it's against the rules it would have a greater probability of happening. if you add logging in with Google someone will go “oh but it doesn't work how do I login with Google” and someone else might ask "what's your efilermail" etc. this could already happen, and i know there's a filter, but it raises the chance

I don't know if that such would be a considerable increase though; but considering that such instances could be reasonably be assumed to be far and few between (it requires the presumption someone logged into Scratch would be commenting for a question about a service that they could reasonably be expected to Google; and that the second commenter would then ask for their online mail address being against the rules and being irrelevant to such a login process; a considerably unlikely scenario). Even if such instances did take place, I fail to see how they could be of statistical significance to make such moderational issues pose a severe increase in problems for the ST.

Bumping from Poland about to get trapped in a car for like 5 hours!