ideapad-320 wrote:

So with win10 going out of support, I am probably switching to Linux. The only non-linux apps I have are Autodesk software and Minecraft bedrock. The issue it my MS Flight sim and Minecraft Dungeons are in the Micro$oft $Tore so I can't just get them from steam. I might just pay the $30 for ESU to use win10 for 1 more year.

just disconnect it from the internet so you don't have to worry about security, continue using autodesk etc. on there, and use linux on another computer for everything else?

(taken from this message, thought it's better to post it here)

NanoRook wrote:

SMG5SC wrote:

while I don't know that much about Linux, i'm pretty sure you can use wine for running a lot of windows exclusive programs on Linux right?

People pretend that Wine is a magic bullet for running everything but it really, really isn't. It is really only good for games. Most applications I tried with it either straight up didn't launch or performed 10x worse than they would on Windows (sound cutting out, massive input lag, etc.). Like Mac, Linux is not serious about having software on their platform.

All Unity games I've let Wine to butcher have the same problem: when the window loses focus, you lose control of the game. I have to enable virtual desktop that fills the screen to avoid that happening, so I can do the very simple task of changing windows with Alt+Tab.

Annoyingly, there's no way to make Proton (which doesn't fix that issue!!) use the virtual desktop. I've tried launching winecfg from the prefix Proton uses; all I get is an infinite setup screen. I've even tried editing the registry manually; no dice. And that's the Hotfix version! Nothing gets more nightly than that.

The non-game case has been discussed, but I'll add my own testimony. I tried to run OpenMPT on my new laptop (since I have some mods to edit). In Windows, it runs fine; it's a native app there after all. In Wine, it runs like it's on a 286 (I'd blame the high DPI screen; my previous daily driver ran it better, but still not near-perfect). Just for fun, I figured I'd try running it on a Windows XP VM I had laying around, and you know what? It ran OpenMPT almost perfectly. There's still some hitches occasionally, but the performance is still miles ahead from Wine. Go figure.
Edit: after an update, it seems like OpenMPT runs perfectly in Wine now. So I guess that's the problem. Or maybe it's the DE. I have no idea.)
(for those “use this instead” people, yes I know there's a million trackers on Linux, no I'm not switching to any of them)

Cases like this made me regret replacing Windows 10 on my (former daily) laptop for Arch. If Wine can't run RTC, I ain't quittin' Windows.
(not that the Real Time Corruptor use Unity, rather it's also a program that doesn't work properly making it the sole reason why I still boot to Windows sometimes)

gilbert_given_189 wrote:

The non-game case has been discussed, but I'll add my own testimony. I tried to run OpenMPT on my new laptop (since I have some mods to edit). In Windows, it runs fine; it's a native app there after all. In Wine, it runs like it's on a 286 (I'd blame the high DPI screen; my previous daily driver ran it better, but still not near-perfect).

Hahah… I'm also an avid OpenMPT user, and you put it perfectly. Wine's implementation of the Windows GUI performs horribly for whatever reason – it makes my dual-core laptop run like a 386 with Windows 95. For what it's worth, I get the same result on macOS.

ust for fun, I figured I'd try running it on a Windows XP VM I had laying around, and you know what? It ran OpenMPT almost perfectly. There's still some hitches occasionally, but the performance is still miles ahead from Wine. Go figure.
(for those “use this instead” people, yes I know there's a million trackers on Linux, no I'm not switching to any of them)

I'm surprised to hear that there are native Linux trackers. I only know of MilkyTracker.

I wonder what command I should run

I've been writing networking code in C lately, and I find the POSIX APIs to actually be quite nice, though the manpages don't really tell you what header file some of the functions are from. (Hooray for Google search.) I have no experience with the Windows equivalent, though I'd imagine they're just like the rest of Windows–that is, not as good.
As for macOS, I believe it shares the same APIs due to being fully POSIX-compliant since Mavericks(?).
Edit: It's actually Leopard.

Redstone1080 wrote:

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I've been writing networking code in C lately, and I find the POSIX APIs to actually be quite nice, though the manpages don't really tell you what header file some of the functions are from. (Hooray for Google search.) I have no experience with the Windows equivalent, though I'd imagine they're just like the rest of Windows–that is, not as good.
As for macOS, I believe it shares the same APIs due to being fully POSIX-compliant since Mavericks(?).
Edit: It's actually Leopard.

I am writing network code in C too. The Windows Socket APIs as far as I know have some differences, but not that much, you could get away by conditional compiling for Windows specific code. I see the POSIX API as superior to Windows. You can run them on Unix, *BSD, macOS, and last but not least, Linux. You could also use some libraries that translate POSIX for Windows, such as Cygwin or MSYS2.

Has anyone gotten a pop-up like this before? The only other time something like this has happened to me is like two kernel panics I got from booting from a flimsy usb

catlover841 wrote:

Has anyone gotten a pop-up like this before? The only other time something like this has happened to me is like two kernel panics I got from booting from a flimsy usb

Turns out this was just a kernel oops I could dig though the logs to find out what happened but I'm too lazy and this hasn't happened again sooooooooooo

Redstone1080 wrote:

I've been writing networking code in C lately, and I find the POSIX APIs to actually be quite nice, though the manpages don't really tell you what header file some of the functions are from. (Hooray for Google search.) I have no experience with the Windows equivalent, though I'd imagine they're just like the rest of Windows–that is, not as good.
As for macOS, I believe it shares the same APIs due to being fully POSIX-compliant since Mavericks(?).
Edit: It's actually Leopard.

What does rhe networking code do? Im curious

I might be able to daily drive Linux on the laptop I'm taking to college cuz of winboat. I was a bit iffy to do it on a laptop I need to use for school work, especially because I'm planning to minor in film and I need access to Adobe, but now with winboat I don't need to worry (:
I'm pretty excited to do it, I want to do catchy but I don't think an Arch distro is fit for something I need to rely on so I'll probably put fedora on it

catlover841 wrote:

I might be able to daily drive Linux on the laptop I'm taking to college cuz of winboat. I was a bit iffy to do it on a laptop I need to use for school work, especially because I'm planning to minor in film and I need access to Adobe, but now with winboat I don't need to worry (:
I'm pretty excited to do it, I want to do catchy but I don't think an Arch distro is fit for something I need to rely on so I'll probably put fedora on it

Two words: Dual boot

Should I dual-boot Windows with Linux on my Acer Nitro V Laptop? It is pretty beefy, so I expect it to compile Linux well. If so, what distro should I choose?

retro2D wrote:

Should I dual-boot Windows with Linux on my Acer Nitro V Laptop? It is pretty beefy, so I expect it to compile Linux well. If so, what distro should I choose?

You dont really need to compile linux, unless you are going for something like gentoo
Are you a beginner or not? And why do you want to dual boot (want to try linux but need windows for school programs, etc)

tkroot123 wrote:

retro2D wrote:

Should I dual-boot Windows with Linux on my Acer Nitro V Laptop? It is pretty beefy, so I expect it to compile Linux well. If so, what distro should I choose?

You dont really need to compile linux, unless you are going for something like gentoo
Are you a beginner or not? And why do you want to dual boot (want to try linux but need windows for school programs, etc)

I wouldn't call myself a beginner, and I meant installing it and running it with compiling (idk why I said that ). Also, I have programs that only run on Windows, and I have lots of files I need to back up. It would just be a hassle, and it wouldn't be worth it.

Just tried KDE Connect and oh my god this is so cool. I've used it to transfer a few images from my phone so far, and Remote Input seems useful for controlling a media center PC or something.

I personally have less experience with Linux than any other OS. I've had Google OS, Safari OS, Windows (still a little hard to program in) but never Linux.

I know that from somewhat Google evolved from Linux, however Linux is old. I prefer new operating systems and or low level languages.

From what I know, this is the evolution of Programming:


I'd love to know more about Linux, but it seems quite materialistic, and I haven't seen much emulators for Linux.

Goldking9 wrote:

I personally have less experience with Linux than any other OS. I've had Google OS, Safari OS, Windows (still a little hard to program in) but never Linux.

I know that from somewhat Google evolved from Linux, however Linux is old. I prefer new operating systems and or low level languages.

From what I know, this is the evolution of Programming:

 Binary, Fortran, ALGOL, Linux, C++, Python and Java, HTML, CSS 

I'd love to know more about Linux, but it seems quite materialistic, and I haven't seen much emulators for Linux.

I'd say several Linux distros are quite modern, just look at rolling release distros like Arch. If you want stuff like game emulation just about every distro has emulation support, however if you want a system that just does emulation (like a game console) distros like batocera.linux, lakka, and chimeraOS can do just that

Goldking9 wrote:

I personally have less experience with Linux than any other OS. I've had Google OS, Safari OS, Windows (still a little hard to program in) but never Linux.

I know that from somewhat Google evolved from Linux, however Linux is old. I prefer new operating systems and or low level languages.

From what I know, this is the evolution of Programming:

 Binary, Fortran, ALGOL, Linux, C++, Python and Java, HTML, CSS 

I'd love to know more about Linux, but it seems quite materialistic, and I haven't seen much emulators for Linux.

Don't confuse programming languages and OSes.

OSes are, at their core, just programs that tell your computer what program to run and when (at this point they can do a lot more than that, but like I said, this is at their core). They were originally made to take the place of people who would do the same job, by feeding a computer a stack of punch cards on their desk that someone left there for that purpose.

Programming languages are just rules describing how to write a series of operators and values, which eventually are turned into a binary form and run when the OS says it can.

Linux is an operating system (OS), not a programming language. Linux itself is mostly written in C, with a few other languages sprinkled in.

Also, “Google OS” doesn't exist (Google actually has at least two operating systems they develop, Android and ChromeOS), and neither does “Safari OS” (You're probably thinking of one of the OSes that Apple makes, which are MacOS, iOS, iPadOS, WatchOS, VisionOS and tvOS).

As for emulators, you probably don't need one for Linux- Windows has WSL, and MacOS can run most bash scripts fine (albeit sometimes after downloading a package or two, but that's true of a lot of Linux distros as well), and ChromeOS has its Debian terminal. Alternatively, you could just use an old computer and install a Linux distro on it- most distros have instructions on how to do so (and which devices they officially support, if any) on their website.

retro2D wrote:

tkroot123 wrote:

retro2D wrote:

Should I dual-boot Windows with Linux on my Acer Nitro V Laptop? It is pretty beefy, so I expect it to compile Linux well. If so, what distro should I choose?

You dont really need to compile linux, unless you are going for something like gentoo
Are you a beginner or not? And why do you want to dual boot (want to try linux but need windows for school programs, etc)

I wouldn't call myself a beginner, and I meant installing it and running it with compiling (idk why I said that ). Also, I have programs that only run on Windows, and I have lots of files I need to back up. It would just be a hassle, and it wouldn't be worth it.

You could try using linux on another device? i compiled a linux kernel on a (removed by moderator - please keep it polite) overheating i5-2410M which is so slow its slower than an athlon 3000G btw
Maybe you have an old laptop lying around your house collecting dust?

retro2D wrote:

Should I dual-boot Windows with Linux on my Acer Nitro V Laptop? It is pretty beefy, so I expect it to compile Linux well. If so, what distro should I choose?

DITCH THAT AND BUY AN ASUS ROG STRIX SCAR FOR 5000$ ITS SO MUCH BETTER



(i was forced to say this otherwise they wont feed me)