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iiucandyfloss
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Parental controls

MasterPC7 wrote:

powercon5 wrote:

Scratch is already child friendly were there is not much to block people from. if a parent does not what their child to use these features they should use the offline editor.
Does not stop kids from making account without parent permission.

Not much can. Even with the parent permission you just do the same thing - confirm message, click confirm, done. The only change is that the confirm Scratch account message is different.

Scratch could add an ID system that checks two IDs, one of the parent and one of the under 16 year old- but you could get an older sibling's ID or a fake one for this if some kid is really desperate for an account but won't ask for whatever reason.

However, who would give an ID to a coding website, when they don't even personally know or necessarily trust the people who run it? IDs have a lot of personal info: name, surname, face, biological gender and more. Most people would give that sort of information to their school/university/college/workplace and family only, not a coding website that they barely know. I think it's quite likely that some people now feel uncomfortable about giving an email to Scratch, let alone very specific personal details.

Last edited by iiucandyfloss (Nov. 19, 2024 20:55:43)

mumu245
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Parental controls

MasterPC7 wrote:

(#420)

powercon5 wrote:

Scratch is already child friendly were there is not much to block people from. if a parent does not what their child to use these features they should use the offline editor.
Does not stop kids from making account without parent permission.
Not even parental controls could stop kids from making an account. Why not just not give them a network?
MarsChompsVenus
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Parental controls

In my view, the only viable reason to have parental controls is to block forums. For that, just use windows/google site blocking. If you want to block anything else, use the offline editor. Like people have said, kids are smart these days. There are 2 possible ways a kid who wants to make a scratch account could: (1). They ask a parent and they say yes and help them make it. (2). The kid has their own email address and inputs that. If the parent doesn't want them to do that, they should just use microsoft/google family safety.
talented-cookie
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Parental controls

I somewhat support. I think this could be solved by parents just not letting their kid make an account.Then they wouldn't be allowed to share projects, comment, use forums, etc
nikky10000000
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Parental controls

I'm pretty sure this is rejected, actually.

Za-Chary wrote:

7.2 A 13+ version of the Scratch website or age-restricted content
Scratch is designed for ages 8 to 16, but any content shared on the website must be appropriate for all ages. Dividing the community by making a separate, age-restricted website would not be helpful. Potential restrictions from entering the website (such as a warning, or requiring a parent to answer math equations) would not necessarily stop an underage child from entering the 13+ website.


Please correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure this also covers parental controls?

Last edited by nikky10000000 (Nov. 21, 2024 01:07:59)

o97doge
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Parental controls

MarsChompsVenus wrote:

(#423)
In my view, the only viable reason to have parental controls is to block forums. For that, just use windows/google site blocking. If you want to block anything else, use the offline editor. Like people have said, kids are smart these days. There are 2 possible ways a kid who wants to make a scratch account could: (1). They ask a parent and they say yes and help them make it. (2). The kid has their own email address and inputs that. If the parent doesn't want them to do that, they should just use microsoft/google family safety.
Why would you want to block the forums? They don't allow you to talk about just any random topic.
glitcX
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Parental controls

Relating to the OP:

I'm pretty sure forums are the safest part of Scratch…
kRxZy_kRxZy
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Parental controls

Support! But the thing is I don't think there are any non children friendly project or studios.
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Hi, I am a decent coder even though I am obsessed with it. I have been on Scratch for like 7 months and I am enjoying it. I like making games and stories and I like having fame
MagicCoder330
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Parental controls

kRxZy_kRxZy wrote:

Support! But the thing is I don't think there are any non children friendly project or studios.
There actually is a fair amount, but moderation tries to remove them. Sometimes they are up for a while before they end up getting taken down though, so there most definitely is on Scratch.
Elijah999999
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glitcX wrote:

Relating to the OP:

I'm pretty sure forums are the safest part of Scratch…
Although I'm in favour of having the option to restrict TIMAC & TIRaP. Nothing good has ever come out of those forums.
scratchcode1_2_3
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Parental controls

Elijah999999 wrote:

(#430)

glitcX wrote:

Relating to the OP:

I'm pretty sure forums are the safest part of Scratch…
Although I'm in favour of having the option to restrict TIMAC & TIRaP. Nothing good has ever come out of those forums.
b-bu- but… but homemade memes!! and the video game topics! and the book topics!
cuberman29
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Parental controls

THIS COULD RUIN MY ACCOUNT BC I WOULD GET LESS VIEWS ON MY PROJECTS.
when green flag clicked
[scratchblocks]
forever
say [NEVER ADD PARENTAL CONTROLS]
end
[/scratchblocks]

Last edited by cuberman29 (Nov. 22, 2024 07:45:03)

mumu245
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Parental controls

I can only think of two things: either you let your child use Scratch because it's already safe, or you don't.
crazyfrogcat
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Parental controls

MagicCoder330 wrote:

(#429)

kRxZy_kRxZy wrote:

Support! But the thing is I don't think there are any non children friendly project or studios.
There actually is a fair amount, but moderation tries to remove them. Sometimes they are up for a while before they end up getting taken down though, so there most definitely is on Scratch.
this is not just scratch it happens on ROBLOX, YouTube, twitch and any site with user generated content so on some sites you need parental controls
iiucandyfloss
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Parental controls

crazyfrogcat wrote:

MagicCoder330 wrote:

(#429)

kRxZy_kRxZy wrote:

Support! But the thing is I don't think there are any non children friendly project or studios.
There actually is a fair amount, but moderation tries to remove them. Sometimes they are up for a while before they end up getting taken down though, so there most definitely is on Scratch.
this is not just scratch it happens on ROBLOX, YouTube, twitch and any site with user generated content so on some sites you need parental controls

ROBLOX has terrible moderation. It also has 17+, 13+, and 9+ games on there, and people younger than those ages could play those if they just select the wrong birthday on sign-up.

YouTube is already designed for 13+ but does have kid-friendly content, and allows minimal swearing and inappropriate jokes. It's a bit of a mix so parents might want to use Restricted Mode or YouTube Kids.

Twitch is for 13+ only.

Not all sites need it. Scratch isn't a social media. All of the above you mentioned are video games or social medias.


crazyfrogcat
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Parental controls

iiucandyfloss wrote:

(#435)

crazyfrogcat wrote:

this is not just scratch it happens on ROBLOX, YouTube, twitch and any site with user generated content so on some sites you need parental controls

ROBLOX has terrible moderation. It also has 17+, 13+, and 9+ games on there, and people younger than those ages could play those if they just select the wrong birthday on sign-up.

YouTube is already designed for 13+ but does have kid-friendly content, and allows minimal swearing and inappropriate jokes. It's a bit of a mix so parents might want to use Restricted Mode or YouTube Kids.

Twitch is for 13+ only.

Not all sites need it. Scratch isn't a social media. All of the above you mentioned are video games or social medias.
scratch is technically social media as you can post comments and forums.

Last edited by crazyfrogcat (Jan. 27, 2025 16:08:11)

LouiseTheCheese2
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Parental controls

preventing people from sharing/loving/favouriting projects is wrong.

Disagree
SpyCoderX
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iiucandyfloss wrote:

crazyfrogcat wrote:

-snip-

ROBLOX has terrible moderation. It also has 17+, 13+, and 9+ games on there, and people younger than those ages could play those if they just select the wrong birthday on sign-up.

YouTube is already designed for 13+ but does have kid-friendly content, and allows minimal swearing and inappropriate jokes. It's a bit of a mix so parents might want to use Restricted Mode or YouTube Kids.

Twitch is for 13+ only.

Not all sites need it. Scratch isn't a social media. All of the above you mentioned are video games or social medias.
YouTube kids isn’t really that good at blocking bad content.
iiucandyfloss
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Parental controls

SpyCoderX wrote:

iiucandyfloss wrote:

ROBLOX has terrible moderation. It also has 17+, 13+, and 9+ games on there, and people younger than those ages could play those if they just select the wrong birthday on sign-up.

YouTube is already designed for 13+ but does have kid-friendly content, and allows minimal swearing. It's a bit of a mix so parents might want to use Restricted Mode or YouTube Kids.
YouTube kids isn’t really that good at blocking bad content.

That is indeed correct. I think Restricted Mode is actually a better fit for most parents. Restricted Mode can block comments, block certain channels, and is a much more useful tool.
iiucandyfloss
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Parental controls

crazyfrogcat wrote:

iiucandyfloss wrote:

Not all sites need it. Scratch isn't a social media.
scratch is technically social media as you can post comments and forums.

By exact definition, yes. However Scratch is designed to be a website used to introduce programming to beginners.

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