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hydrofungus wrote:

han614698 wrote:

hydrofungus wrote:

they can just click off does not being able to read a sentence kill them

Again I will ask take a step back and really think how what you just said could be taken.

my ability to understand is probably limited
can’t you just say what exactly is flawed
if i posted it then my point is still with it, i don’t see anything that could be turned against

I edited my post:

han614698 wrote:

hydrofungus wrote:

they can just click off does not being able to read a sentence kill them

Again I will ask take a step back and really think how what you just said could be taken.


uno reverse

just don’t post the typing quirk does not posting it kill them

han614698 wrote:

just don’t post the thing quirk does not posting it kill them

no. NO. THIS IS THE-
not posting it does NOT kill us.
but don’t read it if you can’t. no one’s gonna type a long paragraph explaining important stuffs with quirks that makes this harder to read like the numbers


fine i quit (talking here)
it’s making me angry first thing in the morning smh

hydrofungus wrote:

han614698 wrote:

just don’t post the thing quirk does not posting it kill them

no. NO. THIS IS THE-
not posting it does NOT kill us.
but don’t read it if you can’t. no one’s gonna type a long paragraph explaining important stuffs with quirks that makes this harder to read like the numbers

I think the point that you’re continuously missing is that people with dyslexia should not have to go to more trouble than they already have to to read your simple message. Ostracizing a specific community isn’t a necessary just because… well… it’s “fun” is your best reason.


Everyone time I ask for you to clearly state what your main reason is you either:

a. Tell me why I should already know, but still leave it out
b. Tell me why there’s nothing wrong with typing quirks, but never seem to say why you do them.

No it isn't. For me, it's kind of a reflex and I simply like using them, and for some people they literally can not help it due to possible mental stuff. I couldn't care less about getting or not getting attention all because of a single star. There is often a point, and there's really little harm done.
Well, if it's a star, there is actually 5 points-

I support. A list of the habits that should be reportable:
Th3 quick brown fox jump3d ov3r th3 lazy dog.
The qvick brown fox jvmped over the lazy dog.
The quick br0wn f0x jumped 0ver the lazy d0g.

Does this count? I do this sometimes:
How are u 2day?
Some1 is on the forums.
Y r u upset?

Instead of random aruging, I figured I'd make some actual points with real data.

Quick disclaimer: As the greats say, “No, I am not targeting anyone before you start saying I am.”

So, without further ado:

Many things I cannot cite sources on because of the nature of the sites where the polls were conducted

Many people find typing quirks:

• Cringe
  
• Unnecessary Eye-Strain
  

Additionally, data shows that:

• Typing quirks are very common among disorder fakers
  

Here's some quotes: (Note - I do not condone everything here - everything that is here is just various sides of the story. Nothing is by me.

my dyslexic friend has been struggling so much with this and he is just too afraid to tell the people who use the typing quirks. because he is worried people will see him as an “ableist”

They aren't a thing and they're offensive to people with real-life speech impediments.

it’s unnecessary and shouldn’t be used. especially considering people use screen readers, text to speech devices, or may struggle with some sort of processing disorder. like i said i think they’re unnecessary and definitely within the persons control.

they’re absolutely ridiculous and i don’t understand them or why we’re expected to tolerate them at all lol. i would literally not talk to someone who has a typing quirk, same way i’d get annoyed at someone who repeats the same thing every three words in spoken language, except it’s even worse because it takes actual effort just to [annoy people].

I'm dyslexia so I'll just pull the ableist card right back at them. Only difference is mine is real and theirs is not last I check.

typing quirks are inaccessible and why to not use them publicly

I am visually impaired and these “quirks” make it almost impossible for me to read what is being typed.

+1, everyone here is making great points and I strongly agree that excessive “typing quirks” can be a significant hindrance to those using screen readers or translators. To me things like that just seem like an attempt to have a personality when in reality it just winds up being flat out detrimental and annoying.

I dislike typing quirks as much as the next guy however I don't think they should be banned. Obviously as many users have said there should be a line however anything that is borderline to completely unreadable I'm pretty sure would already be considered spam.

Also just a point I'm going to bring up once again I still don't get what we mean by "discourage ". Is it put out a sticky (that nobody will read) or is this like endorsing a political candidate but it's whether you think typing quirks are good or not?

bobcat0701 wrote:

(#108)
I dislike typing quirks as much as the next guy however I don't think they should be banned. Obviously as many users have said there should be a line however anything that is borderline to completely unreadable I'm pretty sure would already be considered spam.

Also just a point I'm going to bring up once again I still don't get what we mean by "discourage ". Is it put out a sticky (that nobody will read) or is this like endorsing a political candidate but it's whether you think typing quirks are good or not?

I'm thinking more like let the owner of the studio/project/profile choose and be willing to handle reports from people who don't follow those rules.

I saw someone in GWFDI use

She didn't Moved ⬥ thing to comment here.

They're pretty annoying, but I don't think it's necessary to ban them. People express themselves in a lot of ways and stuff like this might be mildly annoying, but it's not always causing major problems. Plus, only >5% of people even use them.

To add to the debate on whether or not some people do it because of mental stuff, I have had some ocd type stuff before, but it's never really gone into typing, writing, and stuff like that before for me, some people might be different however, and I can't speak for everyone though.

While I support, just saying “hey can you stop adding stars between your comments?” (especially on those acceptance studios) will make these types of users COMPLETELY CRASHOUT, and they'll prob get everyone they know to report you. 50% of scratch is basically tumblr for kids. you annoy that crowd and the scratch team will never hear the end of it.

So if that problem is fixed i'm all in for it

TheAutocorrectingCat wrote:

Does this count? I do this sometimes:
How are u 2day?
Some1 is on the forums.
Y r u upset?

I guess so because there's no difference in pronounciating it:
2 = too
1 = one
y = why
r = are
u = you

No that's ridiculous, should we also ban colours because some people are colourblind?

I agree with han here, even a singular star at the start of a comment would greatly affect the experience of a blind person using a screen reader.

sharkode wrote:

No that's ridiculous, should we also ban colours because some people are colourblind?

How are these things even remotely comparable?

ajskateboarder wrote:

Look, I understand typing quirks are a way of expressing yourself, but there comes a point where they just get in the way. Many typing quirks can make comments incredibly hard for people to understand or read as-is/with a screenreader. And, after a certain point, they can make comments outright impossible to translate into other languages. These issues can also potentially hurt moderation in the case that a comment should be reported

With these problems in mind, I think Scratch could at least include a report option for comments being too hard to read

You can always report a comment if you think it violates the Community Guidelines in some way. But reporting for style issues doesn't seem like it would work. Some “quirks” may actually be caused by a brain or physical disorder. Or somebody trying to use a language with which they may not be familiar. Or somebody trying to bond with a group that uses a particular style.

If you are having difficulty understanding what someone is saying - politely tell them so. It's up to them to decide if it's something that can be improved - or not.