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- portalpower
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Ban or discourage typing quirks that hinder accessibility
One thing that I don't see people bringing up is dyslexia. If a typing quirk changes the way the text looks significantly, I imagine it could make it a lot harder for dyslexic people to read them (I'm not even dyslexic and even I struggle to read some of them). And as mentioned, it could interfere with screen readers and other accessibility tools. So overall, these types of typing quirks just exclude certain groups of people for no real reason, people who are already excluded from lots of things mind you.
On the topic of disabilities,
Edit: nevermind people are talking about dyslexia I just got ninja'd lol.
                        
                            On the topic of disabilities,
I think you're far too easily annoyed if one symbol is harmful. I do get that it could be more annoying for those who use screen readers but still.I cannot find anything online saying that typing quirks are caused by OCD. People do it because they want to and very much can stop whenever they want.
You obviously don't know anything about things like OCD. Well, I'm no expert on it either, but I know that you can't always just stop those things.
Edit: nevermind people are talking about dyslexia I just got ninja'd lol.
Last edited by portalpower (Nov. 16, 2024 02:11:11)
- han614698
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Ban or discourage typing quirks that hinder accessibility
No. If you put a star between every word I will report it.In my opinion, a star (or other symbol) at the beginning and/or end of a sentence is fine, it’s kind of like a signatureI agree. If hearing “slash aitch jay” at the end of a sentence for /hj is tolerable, I would think “unicode star symbol” at the beginning of the sentence is also tolerable. It doesn't detract the rest of the comment, and a screen reader would still be able to properly communicate the rest of the sentence.
I don't really see such symbols as “attention-seeking.” There is the OCD argument, and while therapy/medication could potentially alleviate it, not everybody has access to those. Even aside from any mental health considerations, a symbol at the beginning of a sentence is just a bit of harmless fun, much like your standard emoji:
If I seem them continuously on the forums, I will report them.Let me understand this: if I put a single unicode star symbol at the beginning of every single one of my forums posts (not sentences, forum posts) from now on, and nothing else about my writing changes, then you would report such posts? I don't think the moderators would be very fond of that.
- unnor
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Ban or discourage typing quirks that hinder accessibility
here is an example: 
Do You Want The Party Invitation So That You Can Go 2 The Party???
                        
                        
                    Do You Want The Party Invitation So That You Can Go 2 The Party???
- han614698
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here is an example:That, in my opinion, is worse than any Unicode or anything.
Do You Want The Party Invitation So That You Can Go 2 The Party???
Next question: what happens if you don’t post your typing quirk?
- hydrofungus
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Ban or discourage typing quirks that hinder accessibility
Next question: what happens if you don’t post your typing quirk?i think some can’t because it’s involuntary (according to plural system friend)
but really, do you hate typing quirks that much
No. If you put a star between every word I will report it.and what report category will you put that in? because the star between words thingy seem like a very ok thing
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- han614698
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1. does not answer my question. if you were to post it, what would happen?Next question: what happens if you don’t post your typing quirk?i think some can’t because it’s involuntary (according to plural system friend)
but really, do you hate typing quirks that much
2. yes
- hydrofungus
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1. does not answer my question. if you were to post it, what would happen?1. nothing
2. yes
if i were to post my typing quirks, nothing will happen
in fact im already doing it in previous posts of mine
2. well yeah just because you hate it doesn’t mean others don’t (like me)
- han614698
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1. no if you were to post a comment that did NOT contain typing quirks1. does not answer my question. if you were to post it, what would happen?1. nothing
2. yes
if i were to post my typing quirks, nothing will happen
in fact im already doing it in previous posts of mine
2. well yeah just because you hate it doesn’t mean others don’t (like me)
2. nowhere did i say that. and im not the only one, based on some other posts on this topic
what bothers me is that people are so bent on doing it, but can’t really give a reason why, other than it’s fun. can I spam curse words because i find it fun
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- portalpower
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How would it be involuntary? Tics are not complex enough that they can make a sequence of complex coordinated actions accurately based on prior knowledge of how computers work and for them to just kick in when you're writing something. Most tics are things like eye blinking or toe crunching. Having copying and pasting a specific character as a tic makes no sense.Next question: what happens if you don’t post your typing quirk?i think some can’t because it’s involuntary (according to plural system friend)
but really, do you hate typing quirks that muchNo. If you put a star between every word I will report it.and what report category will you put that in? because the star between words thingy seem like a very ok thing
Also read the OP.
- hydrofungus
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1. no if you were to post a comment that did NOT contain typing quirks1. nothing
2. nowhere did i say that. and im not the only one, based on some other posts on this topic
but some likes to express themselves y’know
put posting typing quirks is also harmless so yeah
2. you did say you hate typing quirks just above
but anyway im running out of responses for the second question
- han614698
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1. but you guys make it sound like the world would end1. no if you were to post a comment that did NOT contain typing quirks1. nothing
2. nowhere did i say that. and im not the only one, based on some other posts on this topic
but some likes to express themselves y’know
put posting typing quirks is also harmless so yeah
2. you did say you hate typing quirks just above
but anyway im running out of responses for the second question
I mean seriously what would happen? There are people saying that they can’t help it. Have you tried not doing it?
- Honey_Dreamz
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what bothers me is that people are so bent on doing it, but can’t really give a reason why, other than it’s fun. can I spam curse words because i find it funSeriously…tell me you weren't actually paying much mind to my or Za-Chary's posts and our reasonings without telling me you weren't. Well you kinda just did. /hj /notmad
So, and this may come as a surprise to you /j, spamming cuss words and using one symbol in front of comments? Very, very different things indeed.
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How would it be involuntary? Tics are not complex enough that they can make a sequence of complex coordinated actions accurately based on prior knowledge of how computers work and for them to just kick in when you're writing something. Most tics are things like eye blinking or toe crunching. Having copying and pasting a specific character as a tic makes no sense.Tics aren't always going to make sense to you. They can be different. They vary from person to person.
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1. but you guys make it sound like the world would end
I mean seriously what would happen? There are people saying that they can’t help it. Have you tried not doing it?
Yeah, saying the world would end or they would pass away or something is quite an exaggeration, but it's literally just self-expression, preference, and other reasons me and others have already given you.
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- hydrofungus
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How would it be involuntary? Tics are not complex enough that they can make a sequence of complex coordinated actions accurately based on prior knowledge of how computers work and for them to just kick in when you're writing something. Most tics are things like eye blinking or toe crunching. Having copying and pasting a specific character as a tic makes no sense.oh yeah i forgot how scratch forums are wildly different from the offsite forum,, people there would have killed this suggestion purely for “aesthetic”
Also read the OP.
I did read op.
no i don’t mean the unicode things, but r4th3r th1s (rather this)
it’s became a habit of some like how i will usually add “mm” in front of sentences (unless we’re in a conversation like this)
this ain’t a tic tics have nothing ti do with what i mean
- han614698
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Ban or discourage typing quirks that hinder accessibility
But certainly a typing tic isn’t a thing.what bothers me is that people are so bent on doing it, but can’t really give a reason why, other than it’s fun. can I spam curse words because i find it funSeriously…tell me you weren't actually paying much mind to my or Za-Chary's posts and our reasonings without telling me you weren't. Well you kinda just did. /hj /notmad
So, and this may come as a surprise to you /j, spamming cuss words and using one symbol in front of comments? Very, very different things indeed.
——How would it be involuntary? Tics are not complex enough that they can make a sequence of complex coordinated actions accurately based on prior knowledge of how computers work and for them to just kick in when you're writing something. Most tics are things like eye blinking or toe crunching. Having copying and pasting a specific character as a tic makes no sense.Tics aren't always going to make sense to you. They can be different. They vary from person to person.
And I’m aware that curse words != star. However I’m trying to get at the fact that just because something is fun doesn’t mean you should do it
- portalpower
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put posting typing quirks is also harmless so yeahThe OP and many, many of the other posts in this topic have been talking about how harmful they are and how there's no benefit. If you need to see why just look at any of those posts.
- hydrofungus
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1. but you guys make it sound like the world would endthe world wouldn’t end we did not make it sound like that
I mean seriously what would happen? There are people saying that they can’t help it. Have you tried not doing it?
nothing will happen, and some CAN’T help it (it became a habit like not capitalizing letters)
i did try not doing it, it’s not that hard of a deal but it can slip in quite easily
- han614698
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nothing wrong with mm. it’s a word (or a sound) meant to clarify your thinking. I would have no complaints if you started saying that on the forums UNLESS you say it when it doesn’t make sense. Like “mm I support this” is okay by “mm what the sigma” isn’t.How would it be involuntary? Tics are not complex enough that they can make a sequence of complex coordinated actions accurately based on prior knowledge of how computers work and for them to just kick in when you're writing something. Most tics are things like eye blinking or toe crunching. Having copying and pasting a specific character as a tic makes no sense.oh yeah i forgot how scratch forums are wildly different from the offsite forum,, people there would have killed this suggestion purely for “aesthetic”
Also read the OP.
I did read op.
no i don’t mean the unicode things, but r4th3r th1s (rather this)
it’s became a habit of some like how i will usually add “mm” in front of sentences (unless we’re in a conversation like this)
this ain’t a tic tics have nothing ti do with what i mean
- han614698
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Ban or discourage typing quirks that hinder accessibility
for people that use emojis. just don’t copy the emoji to your clipboard. that’s simple.1. but you guys make it sound like the world would endthe world wouldn’t end we did not make it sound like that
I mean seriously what would happen? There are people saying that they can’t help it. Have you tried not doing it?
nothing will happen, and some CAN’T help it (it became a habit like not capitalizing letters)
i did try not doing it, it’s not that hard of a deal but it can slip in quite easily
and not capitalizing letters is a habit I do bc I feel like it. But if I want to use caps I just do and it happens
- hydrofungus
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Ban or discourage typing quirks that hinder accessibility
no benefits? have you guys ever heard of expressing thyself and “fun”?put posting typing quirks is also harmless so yeahThe OP and many, many of the other posts in this topic have been talking about how harmful they are and how there's no benefit. If you need to see why just look at any of those posts.
some of them aren’t harmful at all. and if you really can’t read it you can ask for what it meant. almost no one on scratch will snap at you for that
- Honey_Dreamz
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Read previous posts. There are many benefits that you seem to be choosing to ignore just because.put posting typing quirks is also harmless so yeahThe OP and many, many of the other posts in this topic have been talking about how harmful they are and how there's no benefit. If you need to see why just look at any of those posts.
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I'm not sure typing tics are a thing either, I'm just saying that tics are different and don't always make sense to other people. And it's not purely for fun if you READ PREVIOUS POSTS BY ME AND SOME OTHERS. Please manBut certainly a typing tic isn’t a thing.what bothers me is that people are so bent on doing it, but can’t really give a reason why, other than it’s fun. can I spam curse words because i find it funSeriously…tell me you weren't actually paying much mind to my or Za-Chary's posts and our reasonings without telling me you weren't. Well you kinda just did. /hj /notmad
So, and this may come as a surprise to you /j, spamming cuss words and using one symbol in front of comments? Very, very different things indeed.
——How would it be involuntary? Tics are not complex enough that they can make a sequence of complex coordinated actions accurately based on prior knowledge of how computers work and for them to just kick in when you're writing something. Most tics are things like eye blinking or toe crunching. Having copying and pasting a specific character as a tic makes no sense.Tics aren't always going to make sense to you. They can be different. They vary from person to person.
And I’m aware that curse words != star. However I’m trying to get at the fact that just because something is fun doesn’t mean you should do it
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