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msgjrc
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

so bc i don't want to make a remix I will say this now my suggestion is: don't just don't
guys, so adults do ChatGPT for doctor stuff then why would you let kids do this with coding, this is not scratch imagine program share this is snatch steal, don't actually care. AI will kill this place. I will be honest with you if you add ai honestly I'll just leave, I'm dissapointed in which tech person thought that this was a good idea (it isn't) and imagination is done for, especially in times when kids are chronically online and brainrot has taken over places, we can't have one of the only websites to escape from this fall to the same fate. Animators (like myself) want to be able to be challenged on what to animate not have it layed out for us by silly AI. I've tried Ai from websites with huge net worth *clears throat* meta ai *clears throat* and it has been terrible so scratch, a place that is a not for profit place building a successful ai is like me winning the nba tomorrow (impossible) and like @IncognitoOrange stated no AI is creative, it is uncreative in itself, let kids be kids. Also some people say it'd be good for art and coding. I will say 3 words to say no to that. Trial and error. ok that's how I learnt and I'm not gonna be lazy like others. So please scratch never do this again not even on April fools (which you missed by the way by about 7 months) because this is serious, this is the future of kids. Don't ruin that.
Thank you for reading-msgjrc
o97doge
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

The AI they were talking about could just be something like the Face Sensing extension in Scratch Lab.
msgjrc
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

ok, that didn't make a lot of sense, and sure face sensing. however we kind of already have that and the fact is no AI is really a good AI if you can name one, please do
Scratchy697
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

msgjrc wrote:

ok, that didn't make a lot of sense, and sure face sensing. however we kind of already have that and the fact is no AI is really a good AI if you can name one, please do
artificial intelligence is what it is. an artificial, man made, intelligent machine. what you've kept mentioning and criticizing are machine learning models, which takes large amounts of data from the internet, and then uses it to create content, be it textual or visual. code In scratch are the simplest code to learn, and using AI, the hardest to replicate. can you imagine dragging block by block following the instruction of a machine, with the large possibility of it not working too? If you're talking about AI Images, then it's a different issue entirely, but the scratch team has showed opposition towards them.

Last edited by Scratchy697 (Nov. 7, 2024 06:05:57)

msgjrc
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

yes, sure, I get that, but AI in itself, is a stupid idea to waste time on in the first place, ridding the world of imagination, if scratch has already shown opposition to that then why not specify the ‘creative AI’ is not for imagery. Some people do it themselves by researching and just shows how lazy people are to not just google something or make it themselves, wonder is key to imagination, imagination is key to happiness, happiness is key to survival
o97doge
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

msgjrc wrote:

(#3)
ok, that didn't make a lot of sense, and sure face sensing. however we kind of already have that and the fact is no AI is really a good AI if you can name one, please do
What about my post doesn't make sense?
astro-peach
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

msgjrc wrote:

ok, that didn't make a lot of sense, and sure face sensing. however we kind of already have that and the fact is no AI is really a good AI if you can name one, please do

What exactly is ‘bad AI’? Bad AI is AI that doesn't function. Weak AI is AI that can only do specific tasks, and strong AI can do everything a human can.

Face sensing is AI
Siri is AI
Alexa is AI
Google Assistant is AI
Gemini is AI

Artificial intelligence is not needed for this site, I agree. But that doesn't mean that all Artificial Intelligence is necessarily bad. When I wrote historical fiction, I needed to know what currency the Romans used and how much value it had, and how much a toga would cost in that currency. I got a decent response from ChatGPT. A toga with embellishments would cost 1 - 2 aurei. In the actual story, I added 50 sesterces for the benefit of the character and the plot.
My point is that Artificial Intelligence can be really helpful. Nobody said that this AI would code a project for you, no no.

And here's a really important point. Hospitals use AI to save lives.

NHS website wrote:

Examples of AI which are currently being used to benefit people in health and care include:

Analysing X-ray images, for example mammograms, to support radiologists in making assessments. This frees up radiologists to spend more time with patients, or to screen greater numbers of people more quickly.
Supporting people in virtual wards, who would otherwise be in hospital to receive the care and treatment they need in their own home or usual place of residence. Remote monitoring technology such as apps and medical devices can assess patients’ health and care while they are being cared for at home.
Helping clinicians read brain scans more quickly. This shortens the time it takes for patients to be treated, giving them a better quality of care.

Done. AI is not always bad. There are countless examples of AI being used for good and great things.
msgjrc
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

Yes, sure, bad AI inquires AI that steals and gives misinformation or just doesn't have a lot of positives and has more negatives, some AI is aight, even then it's mid, trying to get Meta AI to generate photos is hard. But listen, not all AI is bad, just most, sure, but bad AI is pretty much anything that steals, or makes creativity less than more. That is bad. Bad is something that harms most of the community.
Scratchy697
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

astro-peach wrote:

msgjrc wrote:

ok, that didn't make a lot of sense, and sure face sensing. however we kind of already have that and the fact is no AI is really a good AI if you can name one, please do

What exactly is ‘bad AI’? Bad AI is AI that doesn't function. Weak AI is AI that can only do specific tasks, and strong AI can do everything a human can.
I'm like 87% sure they're talking about “bad” AI morally instead of functionally
msgjrc
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

functionally AI is still mid, doesn't work well on plenty of things, sure it works well on some things but in the case of scratch itself, what the likelihood of the AI being is when AI is making an image, and well, it isn't really great at that
also my pronouns are he/him (I know that they/them is standard just saying what my pronouns are)
msgjrc
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

guys please remember this topic is about scratch alone and the purposes in which the AI could be used and my opinion on it. Ok, I state opinions and experiences that are sometimes facts, but sometimes just experiences and opinions ok?
Paddle2See
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The creative AI problem (guys don't flood my messages with 'blah blah blah blah blah you should have found this forum in the 2365 pages there are blah bla)

Let's wait and see how Scratch intends to use it before jumping to conclusions.
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