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TheCreatorOfUnTV
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What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

Title. I want to know due to a suggestion which depends on the answer for this regarding usefulness.
I also want to know what happens to people who are told to use only one account and already have an account for the same reason.

Last edited by TheCreatorOfUnTV (Oct. 16, 2024 23:02:19)

Za-Chary
Scratcher
1000+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

They will have to discuss this with their teacher. As far as I know, there are no exceptions for banned users who need to use Scratch for school. They will likely need to use the offline editor.
SpyCoderX
Scratcher
1000+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

Za-Chary wrote:

They will have to discuss this with their teacher. As far as I know, there are no exceptions for banned users who need to use Scratch for school. They will likely need to use the offline editor.
Along with that:

Scratch isn’t a powerful language. Anything you can make online can be made offline (with the exception being cloud variables). This means that it isn’t a huge issue if a user gets banned. They can probably share the offline project via email attachments with their teacher.

Along with THAT:

If the IT team of a school makes accounts for a banned user, they may not know the user was banned. This provides a partial way for a user to ban-evade.
han614698
Scratcher
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What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

SpyCoderX wrote:

(#3)

Za-Chary wrote:

They will have to discuss this with their teacher. As far as I know, there are no exceptions for banned users who need to use Scratch for school. They will likely need to use the offline editor.
Along with that:

Scratch isn’t a powerful language. Anything you can make online can be made offline (with the exception being cloud variables). This means that it isn’t a huge issue if a user gets banned. They can probably share the offline project via email attachments with their teacher.
Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
LaughabIe
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100+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

han614698 wrote:

Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
chromebooks can run the offline editor; chromeos are able to run android applications and i believe this includes tablet-exclusive apps like the scratch editor
Sasha_Banks272
Scratcher
100+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

LaughabIe wrote:

han614698 wrote:

Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
chromebooks can run the offline editor; chromeos are able to run android applications and i believe this includes tablet-exclusive apps like the scratch editor
Not school chromebooks. It's almost always blocked.
Scratch137
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What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

LaughabIe wrote:

(#5)

han614698 wrote:

Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
chromebooks can run the offline editor; chromeos are able to run android applications and i believe this includes tablet-exclusive apps like the scratch editor
Not only is this possible, it's officially supported.
cambegonefr
Scratcher
500+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

Scratch137 wrote:

LaughabIe wrote:

(#5)

han614698 wrote:

Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
chromebooks can run the offline editor; chromeos are able to run android applications and i believe this includes tablet-exclusive apps like the scratch editor
Not only is this possible, it's officially supported.
But school chromebooks…?
Scratch137
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What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

cambegonefr wrote:

Scratch137 wrote:

LaughabIe wrote:

(#5)

han614698 wrote:

Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
chromebooks can run the offline editor; chromeos are able to run android applications and i believe this includes tablet-exclusive apps like the scratch editor
Not only is this possible, it's officially supported.
But school chromebooks…?
That's up to the school. They can choose to whitelist certain apps so that students can install them from Google Play.

Regardless, the fact remains that Scratch officially supports running on Chrome OS.
Za-Chary
Scratcher
1000+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

It also just occurred to me that the student could use the online editor while signed out of any account. They would need to download their .sb3 files every time they want to save, but I'm assuming this won't be much of a problem for even “school chromebooks.”
Witherplayz
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1000+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

han614698 wrote:

SpyCoderX wrote:

(#3)

Za-Chary wrote:

They will have to discuss this with their teacher. As far as I know, there are no exceptions for banned users who need to use Scratch for school. They will likely need to use the offline editor.
Along with that:

Scratch isn’t a powerful language. Anything you can make online can be made offline (with the exception being cloud variables). This means that it isn’t a huge issue if a user gets banned. They can probably share the offline project via email attachments with their teacher.
Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
yeah I can back this up
BluePixelLOLLL
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What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

Za-Chary wrote:

It also just occurred to me that the student could use the online editor while signed out of any account. They would need to download their .sb3 files every time they want to save, but I'm assuming this won't be much of a problem for even “school chromebooks.”
Some schools (like mine) block downloading files
Witherplayz
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What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

BluePixelLOLLL wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

It also just occurred to me that the student could use the online editor while signed out of any account. They would need to download their .sb3 files every time they want to save, but I'm assuming this won't be much of a problem for even “school chromebooks.”
Some schools (like mine) block downloading files
DANG
pasta_enjoyer7
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1000+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

BluePixelLOLLL wrote:

Some schools (like mine) block downloading files
I guess you'd still have to talk to said teacher if this was the case for a banned user.
and really? that's crazy, what if u need to download a file for school related stuff?
82BITMYSTERY
Scratcher
500+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

Send an appeal with your username to appeals@scratch.mit.edu. Explain the problem. A few days later, they will email you with instructions to inform your teacher and to contact them.
BigNate469
Scratcher
1000+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

Witherplayz wrote:

han614698 wrote:

Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
yeah I can back this up
Chromebooks work fine offline. The issue is if you have to sign into your Google account on if for the first time- in which case, you do need a internet connection.

They just can't do much offline

My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 14541.0.0, Chrome 129.0.0.0, No Flash version detected

BluePixelLOLLL wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

It also just occurred to me that the student could use the online editor while signed out of any account. They would need to download their .sb3 files every time they want to save, but I'm assuming this won't be much of a problem for even “school chromebooks.”
Some schools (like mine) block downloading files
That's their problem- Scratch is under no obligation to make the online editor available for banned users to use, or even for them to download Scratch.

Probably a better solution if this is the case is either:
1. Don't get banned (the reason why you were banned was on you, not your school)
2. Use a different computer
3. Go ask your IT department if they could make an exception for you

82BITMYSTERY wrote:

Send an appeal with your username to appeals@scratch.mit.edu. Explain the problem. A few days later, they will email you with instructions to inform your teacher and to contact them.
It takes months to appeal a ban in most cases, not days.
How certain are we that @82BITMYSTERY's post here was AI generated? Because it's full of informational holes- the ST doesn't need to tell you how to contact your teacher.

Last edited by BigNate469 (Oct. 17, 2024 16:12:25)

WindowsAdmin
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1000+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

BluePixelLOLLL wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

It also just occurred to me that the student could use the online editor while signed out of any account. They would need to download their .sb3 files every time they want to save, but I'm assuming this won't be much of a problem for even “school chromebooks.”
Some schools (like mine) block downloading files
Wait that's actually a W, if you ever get scratch assigned for homework just say “your stupid school blocked downloading files LOL” boom, easy

But actually not joking, that could actually work

And I'm sorry for you

Witherplayz wrote:

han614698 wrote:

SpyCoderX wrote:

(#3)

Za-Chary wrote:

They will have to discuss this with their teacher. As far as I know, there are no exceptions for banned users who need to use Scratch for school. They will likely need to use the offline editor.
Along with that:

Scratch isn’t a powerful language. Anything you can make online can be made offline (with the exception being cloud variables). This means that it isn’t a huge issue if a user gets banned. They can probably share the offline project via email attachments with their teacher.
Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
yeah I can back this up
If you are required to login with an email then just turn off the wifi and there will be a new option to login offline (unblockable btw). And you can create a shortcut to something like Turbowarp to use it when offline. (also unblockable)

Scratch137 wrote:

cambegonefr wrote:

Scratch137 wrote:

LaughabIe wrote:

(#5)

han614698 wrote:

Not really - chromebooks for example won't run offline.
chromebooks can run the offline editor; chromeos are able to run android applications and i believe this includes tablet-exclusive apps like the scratch editor
Not only is this possible, it's officially supported.
But school chromebooks…?
That's up to the school. They can choose to whitelist certain apps so that students can install them from Google Play.

Regardless, the fact remains that Scratch officially supports running on Chrome OS.
Yeah but 99% of schools (if you're luckily they didn't block play store) only have like 2 or 3 apps whitelisted, and i bet you scratch is not one of them, why create one when it's literally already on an easy to access website
Hypothes
Scratcher
44 posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

just sign out and download the project, it's that easy
cambegonefr
Scratcher
500+ posts

What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

WindowsAdmin wrote:

Yeah but 99% of schools (if you're luckily they didn't block play store) only have like 2 or 3 apps whitelisted, and i bet you scratch is not one of them, why create one when it's literally already on an easy to access website
Only testing apps and Lego apps are unblocked in my play store. Along with Drone blocks.
WindowsAdmin
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What happens to banned users who need Scratch for school?

cambegonefr wrote:

WindowsAdmin wrote:

Yeah but 99% of schools (if you're luckily they didn't block play store) only have like 2 or 3 apps whitelisted, and i bet you scratch is not one of them, why create one when it's literally already on an easy to access website
Only testing apps and Lego apps are unblocked in my play store. Along with Drone blocks.
yep knew it, my school got play store blocked but if you managed to GET it runningocular signature it's just empty

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