8to16 wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

That depends entirely on what you want to do.

idk what i want to do
haven't decided

maybe i need a generic language? python is TOO easy

jale3ms wrote:

8to16 wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

That depends entirely on what you want to do.

idk what i want to do
haven't decided

maybe i need a generic language? python is TOO easy

Java/javascript/HTML is fun if you like Website making
EDIT: C/C+ are both fun for text based games

BigNate469 wrote:

all (native) Android apps are programmed in Java.

Maximouse wrote:

(#24)
Or another language that compiles to JVM, such as Kotlin.

blubby4 wrote:

Lua is rather similar to JS, and has more beginner-friendly features:

if foo then
    ...
end

as opposed to

if (foo) {
    ...
}

and 1-indexed tables.

It's also very fast thanks to LuaJIT, and supports more complex stuff for experts (metatables)

Edit: Not to mention PICO-8, which is a pretty good step up from scratch, uses Lua for scripting.

MineTurte wrote:

(#26)
Python is a fairly universal language but for obvious reasons cannot be used to make websites nor really anything with actual graphics by itself. Now with the help of libraries you can but learning how to use a library is nearly as hard as learning an entirely new language especially if it's a massive library with tons of uses. I do not know of any library for website making as that would be wildly inefficient unless we are talking about backend web development in which case python is a major language for that. As for game making, the best library I could find is PyGame. Fairly big library but has pretty decent documents for getting people started. I myself never really got into game making with python as website game development is much better if you aren't using something like Unity (which python isn't widely accepted with unity).

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

With the languages everyone have introduced here, why not learn all of them and become a polyglot programmer? It doesn't hurt being able to code in multiple languages.

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

With the languages everyone have introduced here, why not learn all of them and become a polyglot programmer? It doesn't hurt being able to code in multiple languages.

BigNate469 wrote:

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

With the languages everyone have introduced here, why not learn all of them and become a polyglot programmer? It doesn't hurt being able to code in multiple languages.

It takes a long time to truly learn a text-based language. For example, I've been learning JavaScript for 2.5 years. I still don't know all of it or its quirks and built-in methods.

Maximouse wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

With the languages everyone have introduced here, why not learn all of them and become a polyglot programmer? It doesn't hurt being able to code in multiple languages.

It takes a long time to truly learn a text-based language. For example, I've been learning JavaScript for 2.5 years. I still don't know all of it or its quirks and built-in methods.

I don't think that's a problem – you don't have to be perfect at one language before you start learning another.

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

(#28)
With the languages everyone have introduced here, why not learn all of them and become a polyglot programmer? It doesn't hurt being able to code in multiple languages.

BigNate469 wrote:

Maximouse wrote:

BigNate469 wrote:

TheSecondGilbert wrote:

With the languages everyone have introduced here, why not learn all of them and become a polyglot programmer? It doesn't hurt being able to code in multiple languages.

It takes a long time to truly learn a text-based language. For example, I've been learning JavaScript for 2.5 years. I still don't know all of it or its quirks and built-in methods.

I don't think that's a problem – you don't have to be perfect at one language before you start learning another.

Yes, but it will take a long time to learn all of the ones mentioned here, and it's probably not best to be actively learning multiple languages at the same time, because you might confuse things like syntax and built-in APIs.

// This is C.
#include <stdio.h>
char* gifts[12] = {
    "And a partridge in a pear tree\n\n",
    "Two turtle doves\n",
    "Three French hens\n",
    "Four calling birds\n",
    "Five gold rings\n",
    "Six geese a-laying\n",
    "Seven swans a-swimming\n",
    "Eight maids a-milking\n",
    "Nine ladies dancing\n",
    "Ten lords a-leaping\n",
    "Eleven pipers piping\n",
    "Twelve drummers drumming\n",
};
char* ordinal[12] = {"first", "second", "third", "fourth", "fifth", "sixth", "seventh", "eighth", "ninth", "tenth", "eleventh", "twelfth"};
int main() 
{
    for (int day = 0; day < 12; day++) {
        printf("On the %s day of Christmas\nMy true love sent to me\n", ordinal[day]);
        if (day == 0) {
            printf("A partridge in a pear tree\n\n");
        } else {
            for (int i = day; i >= 0; i--) {
                printf(gifts[i]);
            }
        }
    }
}

// This is Java.
public class Main {
    static String[] gifts = {
        "And a partridge in a pear tree\n",
        "Two turtle doves",
        "Three French hens",
        "Four calling birds",
        "Five gold rings",
        "Six geese a-laying",
        "Seven swans a-swimming",
        "Eight maids a-milking",
        "Nine ladies dancing",
        "Ten lords a-leaping",
        "Eleven pipers piping",
        "Twelve drummers drumming",
    };
    
    static String[] ordinal = {"first", "second", "third", "fourth", "fifth", "sixth", "seventh", "eighth", "ninth", "tenth", "eleventh", "twelfth"};
    
    public static void main(String[] args) {
        for (int day = 0; day < 12; day++) {
            System.out.println(String.format("On the %s day of Christmas\nMy true love sent to me", ordinal[day]));
            if (day == 0) {
                System.out.println("A partridge in a pear tree\n");
            } else {
                for (int i = day; i >= 0; i--) {
                    System.out.println(gifts[i]);
                }
            }
        }
    }
}

// This is JavaScript.
let gifts = [
    "And a partridge in a pear tree\n",
    "Two turtle doves",
    "Three French hens",
    "Four calling birds",
    "Five gold rings",
    "Six geese a-laying",
    "Seven swans a-swimming",
    "Eight maids a-milking",
    "Nine ladies dancing",
    "Ten lords a-leaping",
    "Eleven pipers piping",
    "Twelve drummers drumming",
];
let ordinal = ["first", "second", "third", "fourth", "fifth", "sixth", "seventh", "eighth", "ninth", "tenth", "eleventh", "twelfth"];
for (let day = 0; day < 12; day++) {
    console.log(`On the ${ordinal[day]} day of Christmas\nMy true love sent to me`);
    if (day == 0) {
        console.log("A partridge in a pear tree\n");
    } else {
        for (let i = day; i >= 0; i--) {
            console.log(gifts[i]);
        }
    }
}

-- This is Lua.
local gifts = {
    "And a partridge in a pear tree\n",
    "Two turtle doves",
    "Three French hens",
    "Four calling birds",
    "Five gold rings",
    "Six geese a-laying",
    "Seven swans a-swimming",
    "Eight maids a-milking",
    "Nine ladies dancing",
    "Ten lords a-leaping",
    "Eleven pipers piping",
    "Twelve drummers drumming",
}
local ordinal = {"first", "second", "third", "fourth", "fifth", "sixth", "seventh", "eighth", "ninth", "tenth", "eleventh", "twelfth"}
for day = 1, 12 do
    print("On the "..ordinal[day].." day of Christmas\nMy true love sent to me")
    if day == 1 then
        print("A partridge in a pear tree\n")
    else
        for i = day, 1, -1 do
            print(gifts[i]);
        end
    end
end

# This is Python.
gifts = [
    "And a partridge in a pear tree\n",
    "Two turtle doves",
    "Three French hens",
    "Four calling birds",
    "Five gold rings",
    "Six geese a-laying",
    "Seven swans a-swimming",
    "Eight maids a-milking",
    "Nine ladies dancing",
    "Ten lords a-leaping",
    "Eleven pipers piping",
    "Twelve drummers drumming",
]
ordinal = ["first", "second", "third", "fourth", "fifth", "sixth", "seventh", "eighth", "ninth", "tenth", "eleventh", "twelfth"]
for day in range(12):
    print(f"On the {ordinal[day]} day of Christmas\nMy true love sent to me")
    if day == 0:
        print("A partridge in a pear tree\n")
    else:
        for i in range(day, -1, -1):
            print(gifts[i]);

// This is Rust.
const GIFTS: [&str; 12] = [
    "And a partridge in a pear tree\n",
    "Two turtle doves",
    "Three French hens",
    "Four calling birds",
    "Five gold rings",
    "Six geese a-laying",
    "Seven swans a-swimming",
    "Eight maids a-milking",
    "Nine ladies dancing",
    "Ten lords a-leaping",
    "Eleven pipers piping",
    "Twelve drummers drumming",
];

const ORDINAL:  [&str; 12] = ["first", "second", "third", "fourth", "fifth", "sixth", "seventh", "eighth", "ninth", "tenth", "eleventh", "twelfth"];

fn main() {
    for day in 0..12 {
        println!("On the {} day of Christmas\nMy true love sent to me", ORDINAL[day]);
        if day == 0 {
            println!("A partridge in a pear tree\n");
        } else {
            for i in (0..day+1).rev() {
                println!("{}", GIFTS[i]);
            }
        }
    }
}

i_eat_coffee wrote:

javascript is literally the only best option coming from a full-stack developer that knows 3 scripting languages + html/css
not only is it pretty easy to understand, but you can also do so much stuff with it - websites, desktop apps, game development, AI models, etc.

also, shameless plug, you should try out Obscure, a programming language I created, because it is a scripting language that you can fully learn in less than 10 minutes, and it helps you build your skills creating & understanding large algorithms
https://obscure.glitch.me/

this is not a practical language, it's an esoteric one, but it helps you understand how to build complex projects and algorithms
you can try making different projects challenging yourself to create a larger and more complex one every time, and then when you are basically fluent in Obscure, you can decide what language you want to move to

_thesecondcoming- wrote:

warning: this is coming from someone who has only really coded in lua
i would suggest learning love2d or pico-8 if you want to get into gamedev easily, lua's sytax kinda looks like scratch and the way pico-8 and love2d are set up make it quite similar to creating a pen only game in scratch. plus roblox exists too, but it uses a custom variant of lua if im correct. lua does have a few quirks that might make it a bit difficult however, so be ready to be confused occasionally.

tip: the online version of programming in lua that you can get from lua.org is quite out of date, so be sure to go through the current reference manual