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- FishySquid
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Scratcher
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unknown scratch pages
well, as https://scratch.mit.edu/scratch_admin/tickets says, the page is VPN protected. We do not have the MIT/Scratch team VPN, so we won't be able to get the scratch_admin pages or admin=true permissions.(#887)I've tried to reproduce this, but nothing happens. Admin=true never gets reset back to false for me.This can be done in the browser's developer tools.I just changed the “permissions” cookie so that admin=true, then blocked the request to scratch.mit.edu/session/ so it wouldn't get reset
What tool/software did you use?
- DifferentDance8
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
I tried to “fake” it by setting admin=true manually and blocking scratch.mit.edu/sessions requests which works well to get the admin panel to pop up but it doesn't work for any /scratch_admin/ pageswell, as https://scratch.mit.edu/scratch_admin/tickets says, the page is VPN protected. We do not have the MIT/Scratch team VPN, so we won't be able to get the scratch_admin pages or admin=true permissions.(#887)I've tried to reproduce this, but nothing happens. Admin=true never gets reset back to false for me.This can be done in the browser's developer tools.I just changed the “permissions” cookie so that admin=true, then blocked the request to scratch.mit.edu/session/ so it wouldn't get reset
What tool/software did you use?
- FishySquid
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Scratcher
100+ posts
unknown scratch pages
Does the panel work?I tried to “fake” it by setting admin=true manually and blocking scratch.mit.edu/sessions requests which works well to get the admin panel to pop up but it doesn't work for any /scratch_admin/ pageswell, as https://scratch.mit.edu/scratch_admin/tickets says, the page is VPN protected. We do not have the MIT/Scratch team VPN, so we won't be able to get the scratch_admin pages or admin=true permissions.(#887)I've tried to reproduce this, but nothing happens. Admin=true never gets reset back to false for me.This can be done in the browser's developer tools.I just changed the “permissions” cookie so that admin=true, then blocked the request to scratch.mit.edu/session/ so it wouldn't get reset
What tool/software did you use?
- DifferentDance8
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
The panel appears but no it doesn't work in that none of the buttons do anything.Does the panel work?I tried to “fake” it by setting admin=true manually and blocking scratch.mit.edu/sessions requests which works well to get the admin panel to pop up but it doesn't work for any /scratch_admin/ pageswell, as https://scratch.mit.edu/scratch_admin/tickets says, the page is VPN protected. We do not have the MIT/Scratch team VPN, so we won't be able to get the scratch_admin pages or admin=true permissions.(#887)I've tried to reproduce this, but nothing happens. Admin=true never gets reset back to false for me.This can be done in the browser's developer tools.I just changed the “permissions” cookie so that admin=true, then blocked the request to scratch.mit.edu/session/ so it wouldn't get reset
What tool/software did you use?
- Redstone1080
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
Vpn required page: https://scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required/Technically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+Markley
- 2016s4m29
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
Technically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+MarkleyWhat Is This?
- BigNate469
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
I'm guessing something related to the VPN that ST members are required to use, consideringTechnically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+MarkleyWhat Is This?
Error 403 Hissssssss! Markley VPN Only.
Last edited by BigNate469 (Sept. 8, 2024 16:30:00)
- 2016s4m29
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
Is It A Mod Panel Or Something?I'm guessing something related to the VPN that ST members are required to use, consideringTechnically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+MarkleyWhat Is This?
- BigNate469
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
A VPN is software used to hide your IP, usually by sending your request through several different servers (and making it appear as if those servers sent the request themselves).Is It A Mod Panel Or Something?I'm guessing something related to the VPN that ST members are required to use, consideringTechnically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+MarkleyWhat Is This?
All ST members are required to use one, specifically Markley, which the devs seem to be going to lengths to keep what it really is and how it works secret. One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
- ChameleonGamerYT
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Scratcher
500+ posts
unknown scratch pages
(#898)I wonder why it hisses at you for not using Markley
One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
- BigNate469
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
That would be a question for @codubee*.(#898)I wonder why it hisses at you for not using Markley
One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
- scratcherman507
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Scratcher
78 posts
unknown scratch pages
Will you plzzZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz add this one I found its scratch.mit.edu/news
- scratcherman507
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Scratcher
78 posts
unknown scratch pages
You can see the admin panel but only a bit but it doesn't work but I'm not telling anyone the link
- Jeffalo
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
scratch.pizza is used for something for the scratch team only. to help ensure the access is locked down, it requires the VPN which acts as gateway to only let in authorized peopleThat would be a question for @codubee*.(#898)I wonder why it hisses at you for not using Markley
One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
- BigNate469
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
Yeah but before scratch.org was changed to what it is now, for non-st people it would just redirect to the front page.scratch.pizza is used for something for the scratch team only. to help ensure the access is locked down, it requires the VPN which acts as gateway to only let in authorized peopleThat would be a question for @codubee*.(#898)I wonder why it hisses at you for not using Markley
One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
This behavior is also present in other domains that used to redirect to the front page, such as scratch.love.
- W1THRD
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Scratcher
71 posts
unknown scratch pages
Vpn required page: https://scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required/Technically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+Markley
I already found that one.
Will you plzzZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz add this one I found its scratch.mit.edu/newsWhy do people keep on talking about this one
- 8to16
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
https://scratch.mit.edu/fly
It redirects to the make it fly tutorial, and is linked on the make it fly studio.
It redirects to the make it fly tutorial, and is linked on the make it fly studio.
- RobotChickens
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Scratcher
500+ posts
unknown scratch pages
(#897)VPNs can be used to hide IP addresses, but for a use-case like this, a VPN can be used to “remote in” to another more secure network. What I think is happening is that the ST has locked stuff down so that only one network can access the admin tools. This is most likely the Scratch headquarters network. That means that Scratch moderators can't do anything moderation-related unless they're 1: Using a computer AT headquarters on the secure network. OR 2: Using a personal computer at home to “remote in” using a connection to a VPN server that's inside the HQ secure network. This kind of model isn't uncommon and businesses use it all the time for employees working from home!A VPN is software used to hide your IP, usually by sending your request through several different servers (and making it appear as if those servers sent the request themselves).Is It A Mod Panel Or Something?I'm guessing something related to the VPN that ST members are required to use, consideringTechnically not on Scratch, but: https://scratchfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/IBE/pages/46465303/VPN+to+MarkleyWhat Is This?
All ST members are required to use one, specifically Markley, which the devs seem to be going to lengths to keep what it really is and how it works secret. One of the only reasons that the community knows that it exists at all is scratch.mit.edu/vpn_required , and sites like scratch.pizza that are owned by the ST and used to redirect to the main page, but now say that Markley VPN is required (with some hissing).
(I learned all about this in my computer nerd certification last year)Edit: If this post is removed, so be it. But let its censorship be a testament to the truth.
Last edited by RobotChickens (Sept. 17, 2024 22:49:56)
- BigNate469
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
VPNs can be used to hide IP addresses, but for a use-case like this, a VPN can be used to “remote in” to another more secure network. What I think is happening is that the ST has locked stuff down so that only one network can access the admin tools. This is most likely the Scratch headquarters network. That means that Scratch moderators can't do anything moderation-related unless they're 1: Using a computer AT headquarters on the secure network. OR 2: Using a personal computer at home to “remote in” using a connection to a VPN server that's inside the HQ secure network. This kind of model isn't uncommon and businesses use it all the time for employees working from home!Yeah, I figured. The side effect is that it also does hide ST members IPs (assuming that they're using their ST accounts and not ordinary Scratcher alts), which would go a long way to hide their actual location- and therefore anyone who might be a security threat against them.(I learned all about this in my computer nerd certification last year)
Edit: If this post is removed, so be it. But let its censorship be a testament to the truth.
Of course that assumes someone gets into Scratch's system and gets their IP addresses, but that's not impossible.
of course none of that would matter back in the 1.x days when your profile page showed not only the country you were in, but also your region and town/city, assuming you didn't live in a city with a population of over about a million
Last edited by BigNate469 (Sept. 18, 2024 00:12:05)
- BigNate469
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Scratcher
1000+ posts
unknown scratch pages
cdn.assets.scratch.mit.edu - found it by accident, the Wayback Machine confirms its existence.










