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StevenTheSquare wrote:

I would like to have customizable permission settings for studio curators and managers.

The reason I say this is I have been manager of multiple studios where there are many managers, and some troll will come along, as to join, and then they remove all the curators and managers, delete as many projects as they have time to do, and then change the title and image so people have a really hard time figuring out what happened to the studio.

Allow me to outline my idea for how this would work.

List of various permissions that pertain to studios, organized into levels of power:
0. The basics (even non-curators have these, they cannot be taken away) remove their own projects from the studio, view
1. Comment
2. Add their projects to the studio
3. Invite scratchers to curate
4. Remove other peoples' projects from the studio
5. Promote people from curator to manager
6. Remove curators from the studio
7. Edit the studio image
8. Demote managers to curators
9. Edit the studio title
10. Edit the studio description
11. Change permissions of specific managers and curators
12. Change the default permission settings for the studio for manager, curator, and non-curator

All scratchers have access to 0. It cannot be removed. (hence why it is 0 and not 1) Everyone can always view, and if comments are taken from some, they are taken from all, to prevent discrimination.
You can optionally let default non-curators have 1 and 2 as well, but not more than that.
Default curators have access to 0-2. Permission 1 can not be taken away from curators or managers.
Default managers have access to 0-10.
The owner has access to all of the permissions, and no one can take permissions from the owner.
People with 11 change specific settings for certain scratchers, like if I trust some managers more than others, I will give them more permissions, and if I trust them less, I will remove permissions.
People with 12 can change the defaults, so for all scratchers not with special permissions, any default non-curator, curator, and manager.

This is just a suggestion, but I think it would be VERY useful to the studio-owners. I am sick and tired of trolls and I think this would be a good way to mitigate them.

I have also made a project outlining the same idea, and to raise support.

*edit: I'm not saying you can't turn commenting off, I'm saying that commenting is either on or off, and you can't say “only these people can comment.”

Why I ranked them in the order I did:
0. Everyone should be able to see studios, and if commenting is active, comment on them. No discrimination here guys.
1. If you don't want your project in a studio, you should be able to remove it.
2. Adding projects is kind of what curators are for anyhow, but sometimes owners don't want curators adding without permission to make sure the projects fit.
3. The troll issue stems from this. A lot of owners want as many curators as possible, so they let everyone manage, and the trolls get the power to troll.
4. Removing other peoples' work is really rude and people do it in contests and the like, but sometimes projects are inappropriate to the studio.
5. Promoting people gives them power. Not everyone should be able to promote.
6. Removing curators is a big problem. Keeping the trolls from doing it defeats them.
7. Editing the studio image is a huge nuisance since it makes it hard to find the studio, but it is easily fixed, and sometimes you want them to add a better image.
8. Demoting other managers should be able to be restricted, if you want certain people to manage but don't want them demoting each-other. (add a demote button so we don't have to remove and re-invite!)
9. The studio title is how people know what your studio is, and how they search for it, so changing it should be very restricted.
10. The description is often the part of the studio that the owner worked the hardest on, and should be protected.
11. Changing specific people can be used as discipline, or a sign of trust.
12. Changing the defaults changes the setting for everyone without a special setting, so it has a bigger impact than 11.

Scratch admins: if this is too complex, you could skip 11 and go straight to 12. If it's still too complex, you could put a “curators can invite” button, similar to the “anyone can add projects” button.

*edit: owners should be able to make a blacklist so that managers don't re-add people the owner removed.

*edit: List of supporters, and reasons why this doesn't just apply to one type of studio

*edit: How I think this should be done: For people with 11 and 12, instead of a Promote button appearing on curators or a Demote on managers, a “Settings” button, in which would be the “Promote” or “Demote” button, but also a slider that would allow you to customize their specific permissions. And then also, in the curators tab would be a button that only people with permission level 12 would have, labeled “Studio Permissions” in which they could change the sliders for default managers, default curators, and all non-curators, as well as add or remove usernames to the blacklist. People of level 5-7 would just see the Promote button on curators. People of 8-10 could see the Demote button for managers and Promote button on curators. Only people with 11 and 12 would see those as a Settings button, and only people with 12 would see the Studio Permissions button. You wouldn't be able to change permissions for individual non-curators specifically (aside from blacklisting them), just the defaults for them. Like the “Anyone can add projects,” that would be under the non-curator permissions settings. If the owner never changes what the defaults are, the managers will automatically have up to 10, curators will automatically have up to 2, and non-curators will automatically have 0 and 1.

Edit: we've had this duplicate of this post merge with us

Should there be a roles stection as well

i just want some edit perms so like 4 to 5 people could get on scratch and edit the same project at the same time
i could finish dark knight so much quicker that way

inksansisop1234 wrote:

(#443)
i just want some edit perms so like 4 to 5 people could get on scratch and edit the same project at the same time
i could finish dark knight so much quicker that way

you should use git ;)

StevenTheSquare wrote:

I would like to have customizable permission settings for studio curators and managers.

The reason I say this is I have been manager of multiple studios where there are many managers, and some troll will come along, as to join, and then they remove all the curators and managers, delete as many projects as they have time to do, and then change the title and image so people have a really hard time figuring out what happened to the studio.

Allow me to outline my idea for how this would work.

List of various permissions that pertain to studios, organized into levels of power:
0. The basics (even non-curators have these, they cannot be taken away) remove their own projects from the studio, view
1. Comment
2. Add their projects to the studio
3. Invite scratchers to curate
4. Remove other peoples' projects from the studio
5. Promote people from curator to manager
6. Remove curators from the studio
7. Edit the studio image
8. Demote managers to curators
9. Edit the studio title
10. Edit the studio description
11. Change permissions of specific managers and curators
12. Change the default permission settings for the studio for manager, curator, and non-curator

All scratchers have access to 0. It cannot be removed. (hence why it is 0 and not 1) Everyone can always view, and if comments are taken from some, they are taken from all, to prevent discrimination.
You can optionally let default non-curators have 1 and 2 as well, but not more than that.
Default curators have access to 0-2. Permission 1 can not be taken away from curators or managers.
Default managers have access to 0-10.
The owner has access to all of the permissions, and no one can take permissions from the owner.
People with 11 change specific settings for certain scratchers, like if I trust some managers more than others, I will give them more permissions, and if I trust them less, I will remove permissions.
People with 12 can change the defaults, so for all scratchers not with special permissions, any default non-curator, curator, and manager.

This is just a suggestion, but I think it would be VERY useful to the studio-owners. I am sick and tired of trolls and I think this would be a good way to mitigate them.

I have also made a project outlining the same idea, and to raise support.

*edit: I'm not saying you can't turn commenting off, I'm saying that commenting is either on or off, and you can't say “only these people can comment.”

Why I ranked them in the order I did:
0. Everyone should be able to see studios, and if commenting is active, comment on them. No discrimination here guys.
1. If you don't want your project in a studio, you should be able to remove it.
2. Adding projects is kind of what curators are for anyhow, but sometimes owners don't want curators adding without permission to make sure the projects fit.
3. The troll issue stems from this. A lot of owners want as many curators as possible, so they let everyone manage, and the trolls get the power to troll.
4. Removing other peoples' work is really rude and people do it in contests and the like, but sometimes projects are inappropriate to the studio.
5. Promoting people gives them power. Not everyone should be able to promote.
6. Removing curators is a big problem. Keeping the trolls from doing it defeats them.
7. Editing the studio image is a huge nuisance since it makes it hard to find the studio, but it is easily fixed, and sometimes you want them to add a better image.
8. Demoting other managers should be able to be restricted, if you want certain people to manage but don't want them demoting each-other. (add a demote button so we don't have to remove and re-invite!)
9. The studio title is how people know what your studio is, and how they search for it, so changing it should be very restricted.
10. The description is often the part of the studio that the owner worked the hardest on, and should be protected.
11. Changing specific people can be used as discipline, or a sign of trust.
12. Changing the defaults changes the setting for everyone without a special setting, so it has a bigger impact than 11.

Scratch admins: if this is too complex, you could skip 11 and go straight to 12. If it's still too complex, you could put a “curators can invite” button, similar to the “anyone can add projects” button.

*edit: owners should be able to make a blacklist so that managers don't re-add people the owner removed.

*edit: List of supporters, and reasons why this doesn't just apply to one type of studio

*edit: How I think this should be done: For people with 11 and 12, instead of a Promote button appearing on curators or a Demote on managers, a “Settings” button, in which would be the “Promote” or “Demote” button, but also a slider that would allow you to customize their specific permissions. And then also, in the curators tab would be a button that only people with permission level 12 would have, labeled “Studio Permissions” in which they could change the sliders for default managers, default curators, and all non-curators, as well as add or remove usernames to the blacklist. People of level 5-7 would just see the Promote button on curators. People of 8-10 could see the Demote button for managers and Promote button on curators. Only people with 11 and 12 would see those as a Settings button, and only people with 12 would see the Studio Permissions button. You wouldn't be able to change permissions for individual non-curators specifically (aside from blacklisting them), just the defaults for them. Like the “Anyone can add projects,” that would be under the non-curator permissions settings. If the owner never changes what the defaults are, the managers will automatically have up to 10, curators will automatically have up to 2, and non-curators will automatically have 0 and 1.

Edit: we've had this duplicate of this post merge with us

I think it should be like the Minecraft Permissions; Each Permission has an ON/OFF Slider.

inksansisop1234 wrote:

(#443)
i just want some edit perms so like 4 to 5 people could get on scratch and edit the same project at the same time
i could finish dark knight so much quicker that way

YES PLEASE

I think this is a great idea!

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ipaddude wrote:

inksansisop1234 wrote:

(#443)
i just want some edit perms so like 4 to 5 people could get on scratch and edit the same project at the same time
i could finish dark knight so much quicker that way

you should use git ;)

You are on Scratch

WindowsAdmin wrote:

ipaddude wrote:

inksansisop1234 wrote:

(#443)
i just want some edit perms so like 4 to 5 people could get on scratch and edit the same project at the same time
i could finish dark knight so much quicker that way

you should use git ;)

You are on Scratch

People can also use GitHub since it's used for project builds and custom or pre-made repositories.

Change the July 6, 2021, studio updates. The July 6, 2021, studio update was one of the most, if not the most, controversial updates of its time. Although most of the uproar about the update has died down for now, it could arise again at any moment. Therefore, Scratch could at least consider letting studio hosts decide whether or not they want to let managers in their studio change the studio title, thumbnail, (image or picture) or description, let a select few managers do it, or let managers they choose do it, or you could change the number of managers for a studio from 40 to 100, or a number under 100, or let the studio host decide which number of managers they want for their studio (as long as it is under 100). 100 is a good number. 100 is a number that's not too big or too small, and it's not too restrictive either. But, if these don't get implemented, I have a feeling the uproar is going to start again, because the studio host has more control over their studio than managers. But, if the host can give at least some amount of control to managers, I'm pretty sure everyone be happy, and most of the uproar about the studio update will die down. The reply limit for studios looks okay to me.

WindowsAdmin wrote:

ipaddude wrote:

-snip-
you should use git ;)

You are on Scratch

joke, also you can export projects if you really wanted to

flowermagicawe19 wrote:

it could arise again at any moment.

i hope the one in tiananmen does they really had a point there

I don't like when they make things that used to be possible unobtainable for no reason (more than 40 managers).

54329 wrote:

StevenTheSquare wrote:

Yeah that's a cool idea! I like it! I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks this should be a thing. I've been trolled like 4 times in one studio because I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes people take advantage of that. Plus, this makes it sound all official and stuff! Did you have any specific ideas about what each role would do?

The general idea behind this “suggestion to the suggestion” so to speak, would be that studios start off with the basic Manager and Curators roles, but then studio owners/people that have this new permission can add, delete, change and update permissions for additional roles.

So, what each role would do, would be up to the owner.

For one of those “500 Manager” or something studios, it may look like this:

Owner (Full)
Studio Organizer (0-10)
Manager (0-3)

Again, just an example. It would be up to the studio owner/people with the manage roles perm.

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD the signature link lol

You should only add someone as a manager or curator if you trust them enough to use their role responsibly

I think the description should be above the title, since you may want to let others update it when you're away, whereas the title rarely needs changing.