My suggestion would be to automatically disable account creation on the user's IP address immediately after blocking their accounts (but not hard IP ban them). This would mean:

1. The user cannot create a new account;
   
2. However, they can still login to their blocked account(s) to appeal their block; and
   
3. Unblocked users can still login to Scratch to edit and share projects.
   

Additionally, the “Account Blocked” page should include a message along the lines of “Don't use or create other accounts, or they will be blocked too. Instead, use the form below to get this account unblocked.”

I know this is a dupe, but I closed it because it devolved into people thinking I'm suggesting an IP ban, which is not this.

sibling: gets blocked
other sibling: wants to join scratch
other sibling: can’t join scratch cause of sibling’s actions

See? This would be unfair to people who live in the same IP as a blocked user.

starlightsparker wrote:

sibling: gets blocked
other sibling: wants to join scratch
other sibling: can’t join scratch cause of sibling’s actions

See? This would be unfair to people who live in the same IP as a blocked user.

That still happens with straight out IP bans, doesn't it?

ThisIsTemp1 wrote:

starlightsparker wrote:

sibling: gets blocked
other sibling: wants to join scratch
other sibling: can’t join scratch cause of sibling’s actions

See? This would be unfair to people who live in the same IP as a blocked user.

That still happens with straight out IP bans, doesn't it?

Straight out IP bans don’t happen in every block, however this user is suggesting that this kind of ip ban will apply to ALL blocks, right? So it’ll be even worse then it is now cause more people will have to unfairly deal with this, no?

One petty thing it should be to appeal instead “to get the account unblocked” because it is not really guaranteed is it?

ThisIsTemp1 wrote:

One petty thing it should be to appeal instead “to get the account unblocked” because it is not really guaranteed is it?

If the appeal is good and genuine it’ll probably be accepted, though

starlightsparker wrote:

ThisIsTemp1 wrote:

One petty thing it should be to appeal instead “to get the account unblocked” because it is not really guaranteed is it?

If the appeal is good and genuine it’ll probably be accepted, though

But what it was a justified ban?

starlightsparker wrote:

ThisIsTemp1 wrote:

starlightsparker wrote:

sibling: gets blocked
other sibling: wants to join scratch
other sibling: can’t join scratch cause of sibling’s actions

See? This would be unfair to people who live in the same IP as a blocked user.

That still happens with straight out IP bans, doesn't it?

Straight out IP bans don’t happen in every block, however this user is suggesting that this kind of ip ban will apply to ALL blocks, right? So it’ll be even worse then it is now cause more people will have to unfairly deal with this, no?

It looks like it is a temporary IP ban so after the temp IP ban is over, they can just create an account after that unless it is indefinite.

Logged out users would still be able to use the project editor, or failing that, download the Desktop onto their computer.

kids112 wrote:

Logged out users would still be able to use the project editor, or failing that, download the Desktop onto their computer.

But what if they want to interact with the community?

ThisIsTemp1 wrote:

starlightsparker wrote:

ThisIsTemp1 wrote:

One petty thing it should be to appeal instead “to get the account unblocked” because it is not really guaranteed is it?

If the appeal is good and genuine it’ll probably be accepted, though

But what it was a justified ban?

You do know that appeals get accepted for deserved blocks too sometimes, right? Cause apologizing exists.

starlightsparker wrote:

sibling: gets blocked
other sibling: wants to join scratch
other sibling: can’t join scratch cause of sibling’s actions

See? This would be unfair to people who live in the same IP as a blocked user.

Agreed; this is exactly why the Scratch Team doesn't automatically IP ban all blocked users (even if it were just to an account creation ban). This gets very complicated when you realize that students in school often share the same IP address. If one person gets blocked in school, that effectively ensures that the school can no longer use the Scratch curriculum in future classes. They could appeal it, sure — but that's a hassle, especially if different students get banned each year.

ThisIsTemp1 wrote:

But what it was a justified ban?

If an appeal is good, genuine, and apologetic, it will most likely get accepted, even in the (usual) case that the ban is justified.

kids112 wrote:

Logged out users would still be able to use the project editor, or failing that, download the Desktop onto their computer.

That makes things complicated for teachers who are already used to using Teacher Accounts. It's not really fair for one student to disrupt the entire class.

Requesting to close the thread then.