Updating the Community Guidelines.

Dragonmyflesh

Scratch's Community Guidelines is a good place to sum up the Terms of Use for children that are too lazy to read the real thing. But I don't care about that, it's the image at the bottom of the page that I care about the most. I'm pretty sure the Community Guidelines haven't been updated since Scratch 2.0 so the image at the bottom of the page shows Scratch 2.0 characters instead of 3.0 characters. I request that the image should get updated to match the current version of Scratch.

https://scratch.mit.edu/community_guidelines/

TheCreatorOfUnTV

They don't have enough time for that. They are too busy moderating the site.

breakfast_for_dinner

ease up a little on the bbcode, woah

also, i don't think it's important enough to be implemented

breakfast_for_dinner

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
They don't have enough time for that. They are too busy moderating the site.

well, that's how it is with most suggestions, as Paddle2See has explained on your suggestion to remove the suggestions forum

Zydrolic

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
(#2)
They don't have enough time for that. They are too busy moderating the site.

dev team ≠≠≠ mod team (iirc)
EDIT: AKA it'd be better to word it as the dev team being busy with other stuff.
As a sidenote, it's stored as a singular image rather than all of them being aligned seperately (thankfully), so if an ST Member is on break and the devs are busy, they could just align the sprites and then have the file replaced.
That's probably underestimating something or me forgetting something though, so don't take my word.

Last edited by Zydrolic (July 2, 2024 21:21:19)

TheCreatorOfUnTV

Zydrolic wrote:
TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
(#2)
They don't have enough time for that. They are too busy moderating the site.
dev team ≠≠≠ mod team (iirc)
EDIT: AKA it'd be better to word it as the dev team being busy with other stuff.
As a sidenote, it's stored as a singular image rather than all of them being aligned seperately (thankfully), so if an ST Member is on break and the devs are busy, they could just align the sprites and then have the file replaced.
That's probably underestimating something or me forgetting something though, so don't take my word.

dev team = mod team or else suggestions would be implemented quicker. That's why moderation stuff gets implemented quickly, while something like this:

((2) ^ (2) :: operators)

(Which would only take a few minutes to implement given that someone actually made a tutorial on how to add the block and it fit within a post) takes years to implement.

Dragonmyflesh

breakfast_for_dinner wrote:
ease up a little on the bbcode, woah

also, i don't think it's important enough to be implemented

I like using it a lot.

cheddargirl

Dragonmyflesh wrote:
breakfast_for_dinner wrote:
ease up a little on the bbcode, woah

also, i don't think it's important enough to be implemented
I like using it a lot.

You might want to ease up on it regardless. A heavy usage of bold, underlined, italicize content can add unnecessary difficulty when reading through suggestions, which makes going through suggestions difficult.

As for the Community Guidelines themselves, they did get updated several times since 2.0 (same concepts, but different wording to expand on clarifications for things such as what counts as personal info, regardless I would encourage that people read through them fairly regularly so that they stay updated). You will have to clarify what you mean by updating the image, as the current set of mascots (Scratch Cat, Gobo, Tera, Nana, Pico, and Giga) are still relevant.

ajskateboarder

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
Zydrolic wrote:
TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
(#2)
They don't have enough time for that. They are too busy moderating the site.
dev team ≠≠≠ mod team (iirc)
dev team = mod team or else suggestions would be implemented quicker.

Nuh uh explain @cwillisf or @codubee

Anyways, I can hardly see any differences in the mascots except for Gobo and Scratch Cat, by a stretch (who really cares about the 3.0 cat outline anyways)

breakfast_for_dinner

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
Zydrolic wrote:
TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
(#2)
They don't have enough time for that. They are too busy moderating the site.
dev team ≠≠≠ mod team (iirc)
EDIT: AKA it'd be better to word it as the dev team being busy with other stuff.
As a sidenote, it's stored as a singular image rather than all of them being aligned seperately (thankfully), so if an ST Member is on break and the devs are busy, they could just align the sprites and then have the file replaced.
That's probably underestimating something or me forgetting something though, so don't take my word.
dev team = mod team or else suggestions would be implemented quicker. That's why moderation stuff gets implemented quickly, while something like this:
((2) ^ (2) :: operators)
(Which would only take a few minutes to implement given that someone actually made a tutorial on how to add the block and it fit within a post) takes years to implement.

even Paddle2See has explained this to you. the dev team simply doesn't have enough resources.

Paddle2See wrote:
When we have more engineering resources, hopefully we can implement more suggestions that would actually benefit Scratch and fit the Scratch design goals.

it would be unwise to have the moderators do the dev work as well.

starlightsparker

cheddargirl wrote:
Dragonmyflesh wrote:
breakfast_for_dinner wrote:
ease up a little on the bbcode, woah

also, i don't think it's important enough to be implemented
I like using it a lot.
You might want to ease up on it regardless. A heavy usage of bold, underlined, italicize content can add unnecessary difficulty when reading through suggestions, which makes going through suggestions difficult.

i also believe it can cause sensory issues for some people?

Anyways, i think this suggestion isn't that needed. What are the pros to this?

Zydrolic

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
(#6)
dev team = mod team or else suggestions would be implemented quicker.

Instead of running in circles we could just ask someone on the dev or someone on the mod team since we're gonna derail if we keep this up.
EDIT:

cheddargirl wrote:
(#8)
You will have to clarify what you mean by updating the image, as the current set of mascots (Scratch Cat, Gobo, Tera, Nana, Pico, and Giga) are still relevant.

I'm not OP but I assume they mean the sprites at the bottom.
Say, comparing Scratch Cat:

EDIT2: Key diffs here are the outline colors, the direction - and size – of the mouth & head, and the somewhat-horizontally stray line slightly visible on the left ear (and a downwards one at the right ear). I could be misinterpreting what OP means, though.

Last edited by Zydrolic (July 3, 2024 05:15:30)

Dragonmyflesh

cheddargirl wrote:
Dragonmyflesh wrote:
breakfast_for_dinner wrote:
ease up a little on the bbcode, woah

also, i don't think it's important enough to be implemented
I like using it a lot.
You might want to ease up on it regardless. A heavy usage of bold, underlined, italicize content can add unnecessary difficulty when reading through suggestions, which makes going through suggestions difficult.

As for the Community Guidelines themselves, they did get updated several times since 2.0 (same concepts, but different wording to expand on clarifications for things such as what counts as personal info, regardless I would encourage that people read through them fairly regularly so that they stay updated). You will have to clarify what you mean by updating the image, as the current set of mascots (Scratch Cat, Gobo, Tera, Nana, Pico, and Giga) are still relevant.

The design of 3.0 Scratch Cat and 2.0 Scratch Cat are different.
2.0 Scratch Cat: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/images/archive/20180616052816%21Scratch_Cat.png
3.0 Scratch Cat: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/images/ScratchCat3.0.svg

Last edited by Dragonmyflesh (July 3, 2024 14:31:17)

BigNate469

TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
Zydrolic wrote:
TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
(#2)
They don't have enough time for that. They are too busy moderating the site.
dev team ≠≠≠ mod team (iirc)
EDIT: AKA it'd be better to word it as the dev team being busy with other stuff.
As a sidenote, it's stored as a singular image rather than all of them being aligned seperately (thankfully), so if an ST Member is on break and the devs are busy, they could just align the sprites and then have the file replaced.
That's probably underestimating something or me forgetting something though, so don't take my word.
dev team = mod team

codubee wrote:
*tapping the I'm Not A Moderator sign*

Last edited by BigNate469 (July 3, 2024 16:37:04)

starlightsparker

BigNate469 wrote:
TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
Zydrolic wrote:
TheCreatorOfUnTV wrote:
(#2)
They don't have enough time for that. They are too busy moderating the site.
dev team ≠≠≠ mod team (iirc)
EDIT: AKA it'd be better to word it as the dev team being busy with other stuff.
As a sidenote, it's stored as a singular image rather than all of them being aligned seperately (thankfully), so if an ST Member is on break and the devs are busy, they could just align the sprites and then have the file replaced.
That's probably underestimating something or me forgetting something though, so don't take my word.
dev team = mod team
codubee wrote:
*tapping the I'm Not A Moderator sign*

Can you cite that? (As in, link when codubee said that) I’m not saying that you’re lying I just wanna see where he said that

cheddargirl

Dragonmyflesh wrote:
cheddargirl wrote:
Dragonmyflesh wrote:
breakfast_for_dinner wrote:
ease up a little on the bbcode, woah

also, i don't think it's important enough to be implemented
I like using it a lot.
You might want to ease up on it regardless. A heavy usage of bold, underlined, italicize content can add unnecessary difficulty when reading through suggestions, which makes going through suggestions difficult.

As for the Community Guidelines themselves, they did get updated several times since 2.0 (same concepts, but different wording to expand on clarifications for things such as what counts as personal info, regardless I would encourage that people read through them fairly regularly so that they stay updated). You will have to clarify what you mean by updating the image, as the current set of mascots (Scratch Cat, Gobo, Tera, Nana, Pico, and Giga) are still relevant.

The design of 3.0 Scratch Cat and 2.0 Scratch Cat are different.
2.0 Scratch Cat: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/images/archive/20180616052816%21Scratch_Cat.png
3.0 Scratch Cat: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/images/ScratchCat3.0.svg

I'm not seeing it from a design point of view.

I think there's no point into discussing it further, it seems like people being unnecessarily picky on aesthetics at this point.

Last edited by cheddargirl (July 3, 2024 18:41:47)

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