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- Rex208
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Indifferent. Sure, it can give useful information, but you never know what will happen:*cough cough* report *cough cough*Sticky comment:vs.
Please do not hate my project - I'm only new to Scratch. I prefer constructive criticism… etc.Sticky comment:
THIS SCRATCHER IS A BULLY HE NEEDS TO BE BANNED FROM SCRATCH AND HE COMMITTED CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY RANT RANT RAGE RAGE EXPLODE EXPLODE ETC. ETC. ETC.
No support, someone could create lots of spam stickies that take up the enitre comments section.Why? Would they get any personal gain?
Support.
- LionsStair
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Well just to solve some discussion, why not just REPORT them if something bad happens…
If I said no support highlight this from “Hi” to “AWESOME”:
Hi this isThink about your suggestion, was it going to benefit a majority of scratchers, did it have cons to a specific group, was it fully based on YOUR opinion, did you put some thought into the idea, simply forgot to read the sticky, has little pros, no purposeful reason, was there something wrong with scratch? If any of these apply to you think about your post, either revise it or close it.AWESOME
If I said support highlight this from “Hi” to “COOL”:
Hi I think this isDo you think you could add to your suggestion, or do you wish to keep it the same? Doesn't matter as long as people support it!!COOL
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- little_kitten
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If you can find me
You've found a supporter
if you didn't understand that, +1
You've found a supporter
if you didn't understand that, +1
The above post was likely clear sass. 10 outta 10.
Unless it wasn't. Which happens from time to time. Sadly.
- AonymousGuy
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How? That doesn't even make sense! There's no way to quote someone with a comment! The only thing I could think you could possibly mean is stickying a comment that said something like “I really like this project!” But in that case, why should it matter? They're just showing people some of the feedback they've gotten! If someone really needed that anyways they could just delete all comments that weren't positive feedback.-snip-Quoting people out of context in order to make you look better even if they didn't say anything about the thing (or quoting someone with something they didn't say) if false advertising. Please don't do it.
Do you realize my point then? Because quoting people to make yourself look better is exactly what can happen with stickey'd comments.You see?
Stickied comments prove to stand out MUCH more than text placed right next to the project. Many people don't bother to read the Notes and Credits or Instructions, as the text is off to the side and sort of dull and in an unobtrusive grey background. However, people posting in the comments would probably notice a box directly above where they entered comments, as they would have to scroll past it anyways to get to the box to enter a comment, and it would be right above the text they were writing. Much more noticeable.If someone's going to comment, like I said in the OP, it's way more likely that they're gonna look at a marked post a the top of comments than small text on the side.
Depends on how you arrange information, like I said.
You see, if you take advantage of the fact that the text on the side is the first text they will see, all you have to do is
MAKE IT STAND OUT
And they'll shift their attention to anything you've written on the side. Simple.
And since when does stickey'd comments prove to stand out more than text placed right next to the project?
It means informing the commenters of important info and what they shouldn't post to not be redundant.Stickied comments would be sending the message to commenters. I don't think you get the point of this at all.
I have no idea what “sending the message to commenters” means.
I really think you don't understand the suggestion. The suggestion is that the OWNER of the project can make it so comments of THEIR CHOOSING stay at the top of the project. The OWNER of the project would sticky questions because they were repetitively asked and answered in the notes, but nobody was reading the notes. And if people want to sticky f4fs or ads on their OWN projects, why should we care? It doesn't really affect us. They could put ads all over their projects and put one in the comment every other day, but nobody is complaining about that.Important questions would probably get stickied… and how many stickied comments do you think people would use? Probably not more than 2 or 3.Why would questions get stickied? And you heard of advertising or f4f spamming? Those guys don't just do it “2 to 3 times”. What would stop them from adding more?
Well, I find that at least half the suggestions were at least useful if not plausible - I don't really see why it would be necessary to think that most suggestions aren't well considered.If you're gonna not support, you need to say it outside of your signature.
Ah, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.
Last edited by AonymousGuy (Feb. 23, 2015 23:03:06)
- Unlocked
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Ah, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.If you're just going to make a blanket statement about how everyone's ideas are bad, that's both un-respectful and non-constructive, making it be against TWO community guidelines.
Last edited by Unlocked (Feb. 24, 2015 02:19:38)
- KingOfAwesome58219
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Support, I've always wanted something like this
- Alberknyis
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Scratcher
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Ah, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.If you're just going to make a blanket statement about how everyone's ideas are bad, that's both un-respectful and non-constructive, making it be against TWO community guidelines.
Hahah, not really. First off it's going to be only disrespectful 0.01% of the time, and the rest of the time it's perfectly honest and constructive.
Read my signature. It perfectly shows two questions I can ask about any suggestion, whether I support it or not.
99.99% respectful, 100% constructive.
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- Alberknyis
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Multiple quoteception.How? That doesn't even make sense! There's no way to quote someone with a comment! The only thing I could think you could possibly mean is stickying a comment that said something like “I really like this project!” But in that case, why should it matter? They're just showing people some of the feedback they've gotten! If someone really needed that anyways they could just delete all comments that weren't positive feedback.-snip-Quoting people out of context in order to make you look better even if they didn't say anything about the thing (or quoting someone with something they didn't say) if false advertising. Please don't do it.
Do you realize my point then? Because quoting people to make yourself look better is exactly what can happen with stickey'd comments.You see?
But moving on.
It's wouldn't be very interesting to find Scratchers stickeying “I really like this project!” on their projects. It's like you being in a really good party and people thinking they need to tell you that it's a really good party. Especially when you don't think it is.
Stickied comments prove to stand out MUCH more than text placed right next to the project. Many people don't bother to read the Notes and Credits or Instructions, as the text is off to the side and sort of dull and in an unobtrusive grey background. However, people posting in the comments would probably notice a box directly above where they entered comments, as they would have to scroll past it anyways to get to the box to enter a comment, and it would be right above the text they were writing. Much more noticeable.If someone's going to comment, like I said in the OP, it's way more likely that they're gonna look at a marked post a the top of comments than small text on the side.
Depends on how you arrange information, like I said.
You see, if you take advantage of the fact that the text on the side is the first text they will see, all you have to do is
MAKE IT STAND OUT
And they'll shift their attention to anything you've written on the side. Simple.
And since when does stickey'd comments prove to stand out more than text placed right next to the project?
“The text is in a dull area” isn't enough proof that it's seen less.
It means informing the commenters of important info and what they shouldn't post to not be redundant.Stickied comments would be sending the message to commenters. I don't think you get the point of this at all.
I have no idea what “sending the message to commenters” means.
Then see my comment above about notes and credits and instructions part.
I really think you don't understand the suggestion. The suggestion is that the OWNER of the project can make it so comments of THEIR CHOOSING stay at the top of the project. The OWNER of the project would sticky questions because they were repetitively asked and answered in the notes, but nobody was reading the notes. And if people want to sticky f4fs or ads on their OWN projects, why should we care? It doesn't really affect us. They could put ads all over their projects and put one in the comment every other day, but nobody is complaining about that.Important questions would probably get stickied… and how many stickied comments do you think people would use? Probably not more than 2 or 3.Why would questions get stickied? And you heard of advertising or f4f spamming? Those guys don't just do it “2 to 3 times”. What would stop them from adding more?
The owner is the one that choose the comments. I know, I've read it all before this even started. And then we're back to the notes. Look, just make a gigantic warning sign in the notes and credits section of the project. It's a lot easier than the Scratch team implementing this.
I never said they literally sticky the f4f or advertising comments. What I mean is that people can spam. Stuff can happen if the owner gets the ability to keep comments at the top.
Like this:
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People already do ascii spam. Imagine Scratchers putting this right at the top of the comments.
We have different opinions. You find 50% of them useful, I find 0.01% of them useful. I don't think or guess, I get information I know and make an educated guess that it's going to be another month until I find a suggestion I like.Well, I find that at least half the suggestions were at least useful if not plausible - I don't really see why it would be necessary to think that most suggestions aren't well considered.If you're gonna not support, you need to say it outside of your signature.
Ah, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.
Last edited by Alberknyis (Feb. 24, 2015 07:55:09)
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- PaganoLeo10
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Hold on. No support.
Why?
People can sticky their own comments if they are spam. They can also sticky spam. Plus it has a super easy workaround. Actually, It has 2. Here is my list:
Why?
People can sticky their own comments if they are spam. They can also sticky spam. Plus it has a super easy workaround. Actually, It has 2. Here is my list:
- Make a comment and close commenting
- Post on the forums and hope for it to get stickied
Last edited by PaganoLeo10 (Feb. 26, 2015 11:55:45)
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- MegaApuTurkUltra
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Hold on. No support.
Why?
People can sticky their own comments. They can also sticky spam. Plus it has a super easy workaround. Actually, It has 2. Here is my list:
- Make a comment and close commenting
- Post on the forums and hope for it to get stickied
- Stickying spam actually makes it easier for the ST to find and remove! Spam isn't accepted on scratch anyway, stickied or not. Isn't this a plus?
- A project creator stickying their own comments is kind of the point of this. No one else can sticky other than the project owner.
- Sometimes, you want to allow people to comment, but also want to make sure they see important messages regarding commenting. (For example, I would very much like to tell amateurs not to spam me with questions about following Kaj or changing thumbnails.) Closing comments defeats the purpose of giving a message about commenting.
- The purpose of this is to send a message about commenting, specifically what not to comment. Why would posting on the forums be useful in this?
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- LionsStair
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Basically, blacklisting in some cases.Hold on. No support.
Why?
People can sticky their own comments. They can also sticky spam. Plus it has a super easy workaround. Actually, It has 2. Here is my list:
- Make a comment and close commenting
- Post on the forums and hope for it to get stickied
- Stickying spam actually makes it easier for the ST to find and remove! Spam isn't accepted on scratch anyway, stickied or not. Isn't this a plus?
- A project creator stickying their own comments is kind of the point of this. No one else can sticky other than the project owner.
- Sometimes, you want to allow people to comment, but also want to make sure they see important messages regarding commenting. (For example, I would very much like to tell amateurs not to spam me with questions about following Kaj or changing thumbnails.) Closing comments defeats the purpose of giving a message about commenting.
- The purpose of this is to send a message about commenting, specifically what not to comment. Why would posting on the forums be useful in this?
This is about projects not the forum.
If I said no support highlight this from “Hi” to “AWESOME”:
Hi this isThink about your suggestion, was it going to benefit a majority of scratchers, did it have cons to a specific group, was it fully based on YOUR opinion, did you put some thought into the idea, simply forgot to read the sticky, has little pros, no purposeful reason, was there something wrong with scratch? If any of these apply to you think about your post, either revise it or close it.AWESOME
If I said support highlight this from “Hi” to “COOL”:
Hi I think this isDo you think you could add to your suggestion, or do you wish to keep it the same? Doesn't matter as long as people support it!!COOL
Because I can do stuff Highlight:If you followed my instructions, I will give you a free stuffollow
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Like this ^ and this v
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KUMQUATS ARE HERE TO EAT, EAT, EAT!
Remember to ALWAYS: Clicky That Sticky!
A Lion's Stare is a neutral stare yet is filled with so many stairs of moods, it never hurts, or never loves, it never does, or never nothing. A Lion's Stare is a Stair.
Life's a mystery, yet so unfair,
DEAL WIT IT.
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- Unlocked
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Here's a fix to all spam-related arguments:
Enjoy!
FAQ
Q: Couldn't this be used as spam, like for using too many stickies or other types of spam (ascii, f4f, etc.)?
A: Yes, however only the owner can sticky. If they really wanted to ruin comments, they could just disable them.
Enjoy!
- Unlocked
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Making a negative blanket statement about all suggestions (yes, your signature implies ALL) is EXTREMELY disrespectful, and I (or someone else) could report you for it on legitimate grounds.Ah, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.If you're just going to make a blanket statement about how everyone's ideas are bad, that's both un-respectful and non-constructive, making it be against TWO community guidelines.
Hahah, not really. First off it's going to be only disrespectful 0.01% of the time, and the rest of the time it's perfectly honest and constructive.
Read my signature. It perfectly shows two questions I can ask about any suggestion, whether I support it or not.
99.99% respectful, 100% constructive.
- IceCube291
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people don't just suddenly get super awesome ideas, that's why they suggest it so other people can see and help add things to do itAh, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.If you're just going to make a blanket statement about how everyone's ideas are bad, that's both un-respectful and non-constructive, making it be against TWO community guidelines.
Hahah, not really. First off it's going to be only disrespectful 0.01% of the time, and the rest of the time it's perfectly honest and constructive.
Read my signature. It perfectly shows two questions I can ask about any suggestion, whether I support it or not.
99.99% respectful, 100% constructive.
If it's so constructive then help find some ways to make it better or point out what you specify didn't like - Alberknyis
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Making a negative blanket statement about all suggestions (yes, your signature implies ALL) is EXTREMELY disrespectful, and I (or someone else) could report you for it on legitimate grounds.Ah, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.If you're just going to make a blanket statement about how everyone's ideas are bad, that's both un-respectful and non-constructive, making it be against TWO community guidelines.
Hahah, not really. First off it's going to be only disrespectful 0.01% of the time, and the rest of the time it's perfectly honest and constructive.
Read my signature. It perfectly shows two questions I can ask about any suggestion, whether I support it or not.
99.99% respectful, 100% constructive.
Well, the reason for my blanket statement is that basically, I almost unsupport all (Yes, I mean ALL) suggestions anyway.
I'm not being negative. I'm being a realistically critical person with a different opinion from everyone else and from my point of view this signature will only be wrong 0.01% of the time. Any other time it would clearly show two important things any suggestion is likely to be missing.
I'm not changing this signature unless I'm forced to or you provide a legitimate reason as to why I should change it.
Threats aren't going to affect me in any way so instead try pressing the report button whenever you feel like it.
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- Alberknyis
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people don't just suddenly get super awesome ideas, that's why they suggest it so other people can see and help add things to do itAh, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.If you're just going to make a blanket statement about how everyone's ideas are bad, that's both un-respectful and non-constructive, making it be against TWO community guidelines.
Hahah, not really. First off it's going to be only disrespectful 0.01% of the time, and the rest of the time it's perfectly honest and constructive.
Read my signature. It perfectly shows two questions I can ask about any suggestion, whether I support it or not.
99.99% respectful, 100% constructive.If it's so constructive then help find some ways to make it better or point out what you specify didn't like
If I unsupport I say why. Don't worry.
Also I'm different. Most people will support probably about 60% of the time, but forget about that, because I'm one of the few who don't like change unless there's a good reason for it.
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- LionsStair
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Yeah, I really have the urge to, and not all suggestions are bad.Making a negative blanket statement about all suggestions (yes, your signature implies ALL) is EXTREMELY disrespectful, and I (or someone else) could report you for it on legitimate grounds.Ah, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.If you're just going to make a blanket statement about how everyone's ideas are bad, that's both un-respectful and non-constructive, making it be against TWO community guidelines.
Hahah, not really. First off it's going to be only disrespectful 0.01% of the time, and the rest of the time it's perfectly honest and constructive.
Read my signature. It perfectly shows two questions I can ask about any suggestion, whether I support it or not.
99.99% respectful, 100% constructive.
If I said no support highlight this from “Hi” to “AWESOME”:
Hi this isThink about your suggestion, was it going to benefit a majority of scratchers, did it have cons to a specific group, was it fully based on YOUR opinion, did you put some thought into the idea, simply forgot to read the sticky, has little pros, no purposeful reason, was there something wrong with scratch? If any of these apply to you think about your post, either revise it or close it.AWESOME
If I said support highlight this from “Hi” to “COOL”:
Hi I think this isDo you think you could add to your suggestion, or do you wish to keep it the same? Doesn't matter as long as people support it!!COOL
Because I can do stuff Highlight:If you followed my instructions, I will give you a free stuffollow
Check out my feed here! List of my favorite music
Because I can do stuff:
Like this ^ and this v
You must be hallucinating!
automagiacally = automatically do something
If you don't get the pun: *Facepalm*
KUMQUATS ARE HERE TO EAT, EAT, EAT!
Remember to ALWAYS: Clicky That Sticky!
A Lion's Stare is a neutral stare yet is filled with so many stairs of moods, it never hurts, or never loves, it never does, or never nothing. A Lion's Stare is a Stair.
Life's a mystery, yet so unfair,
DEAL WIT IT.
(Insert epic lion face here)
- IceCube291
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Scratcher
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people don't just suddenly get super awesome ideas, that's why they suggest it so other people can see and help add things to do itAh, that signature is for everything in the suggestions section. A bit hard to explain. Basically, I find that 99% of the suggestions are not exactly thought that far… So as for now I've decided to become a critic.If you're just going to make a blanket statement about how everyone's ideas are bad, that's both un-respectful and non-constructive, making it be against TWO community guidelines.
Hahah, not really. First off it's going to be only disrespectful 0.01% of the time, and the rest of the time it's perfectly honest and constructive.
Read my signature. It perfectly shows two questions I can ask about any suggestion, whether I support it or not.
99.99% respectful, 100% constructive.
If I unsupport I say why. Don't worry.
Also I'm different. Most people will support probably about 60% of the time, but forget about that, because I'm one of the few who don't like change unless there's a good reason for it.
did you not read the actual suggestion?