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abubriski
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Where do the music loops come from?

Does anyone know the origin of Classical Piano?
donotforgetmycode
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Where do the music loops come from?

abubriski wrote:

Does anyone know the origin of Classical Piano?
Yes, it's listed in the first post of this topic.
1CLICKINFO
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Where do the music loops come from?

pitobayola wrote:

jungle = Intro Superllanero by horacero

Actually, this probably comes from Distorted Reality 1 by Spectrasonics, I remember browsing this CD and hearing this.

This also makes sense due to the scratch being released in 2007, song being released in 2009, and Distorted Reality being released in 1995

Last edited by 1CLICKINFO (March 21, 2024 22:18:59)

Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

What is it with this topic and randomly getting closed and then reopened? This is what, the second time?? Lol.
ANYWAYS…

1CLICKINFO wrote:

pitobayola wrote:

jungle = Intro Superllanero by horacero

Actually, this probably comes from Distorted Reality 1 by Spectrasonics, I remember browsing this CD and hearing this.

This also makes sense due to the scratch being released in 2007, song being released in 2009, and Distorted Reality being released in 1995
Hmmm… I listened to this and this and while I did find a couple similar-sounding samples, I didn't notice any exact match… I could have just missed it, though.

And it's almost 3AM in my time zone (yeah i'm online - don't ask -) so aPpReCiAte My BrAvERy /mj
in all seriousness there were a couple of minecraft cave sounds flashbacks xD
1CLICKINFO
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

What is it with this topic and randomly getting closed and then reopened? This is what, the second time?? Lol.
ANYWAYS…

Hmmm… I listened to this and this and while I did find a couple similar-sounding samples, I didn't notice any exact match… I could have just missed it, though.

And it's almost 3AM in my time zone (yeah i'm online - don't ask -) so aPpReCiAte My BrAvERy /mj
in all seriousness there were a couple of minecraft cave sounds flashbacks xD

Those are not full, you can find the full version on archive.org, though it is a big download.
MinionPigFan21
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Where do the music loops come from?

From what I know, the “Eggs” theme comes from a Scratch project shared a long time ago, I don't know the name of the project and its URL, I think it was shared during the Scratch 1.x era.
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

1CLICKINFO wrote:

Those are not full, you can find the full version on archive.org, though it is a big download.
Ahh, I see. I'll check that out… Because I quite literally have nothing more productive to do then listen to old sound effect CDs, and I'm not even being sarcastic xD

MinionPigFan21 wrote:

From what I know, the “Eggs” theme comes from a Scratch project shared a long time ago, I don't know the name of the project and its URL, I think it was shared during the Scratch 1.x era.
Yep, we found that one - it's Carrots and Eggs!
My post at the top of page 2 has a full list of everything that has and hasn't been sourced; the topic post is a bit outdated ^.^'
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

…Okay I can now say pretty confidently that:
1. It isn't in the “Ambient” category or in the first half of the “Drones” category (alphabetically, A-L)
2. There are however some cool sound effects which I might have to sneak into future games…
3. This is probably not the best activity to do right before going to bed xD
AND
4. I have to go to bed so I'll probably be back at this tomorrow unless somebody else wants to go through the rest of the tracks LOL
because I do in fact have quite literally,, nothing better to do…

EDIT: Okay clearly I misunderstood the text on Archive.org and this wasn't actually meant to be available for free, and I believe in respecting content creators so ignore #2.

Last edited by Fun_Cupcake_i81 (March 23, 2024 23:04:40)

1CLICKINFO
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

…Okay I can now say pretty confidently that:
1. It isn't in the “Ambient” category or in the first half of the “Drones” category (alphabetically, A-L)
2. There are however some cool sound effects which I might have to sneak into future games…
3. This is probably not the best activity to do right before going to bed xD
AND
4. I have to go to bed so I'll probably be back at this tomorrow unless somebody else wants to go through the rest of the tracks LOL
because I do in fact have quite literally,, nothing better to do…
It def wont be in the drone category, try checking if there are any categories relating drum loops.
abubriski
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Where do the music loops come from?

Are the xylos from a known source?
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

1CLICKINFO wrote:

It def wont be in the drone category, try checking if there are any categories relating drum loops.
Yeah, I figured it wouldn't, I just wanted to check if there were any other Scratch sounds included there as well while I'm at it since they would sometimes take multiple sounds from the same source :P

abubriski wrote:

Are the xylos from a known source?
Based on the Scratch 1.4 metadata, Xylo 4 was by Beau Silver - brother of the former Scratch Team member Jay Silver who seemed to be the one to add the “Eggs” loop in - so a full version may not exist, but then again, perhaps it's hiding wherever that extended version of Cave originated…
I'm honestly kind of just considering reaching out to Jay Silver to ask if he was in charge of the whole sound library, considering he has public contact info on his website, but a n x i e t y…
All the other Xylos are currently unknown
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

…Okay, I think I can now say with relative certainty* that none of the tracks on “Distorted Reality” (at least, everything on the archive I downloaded, which I think is meant to be the full thing) were used in the Scratch library.

*It's also possible that one was there and I just missed it because I'd lost my sanity from hearing one ZWEEP too many xDD
1CLICKINFO
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

…Okay, I think I can now say with relative certainty* that none of the tracks on “Distorted Reality” (at least, everything on the archive I downloaded, which I think is meant to be the full thing) were used in the Scratch library.

*It's also possible that one was there and I just missed it because I'd lost my sanity from hearing one ZWEEP too many xDD

I'm unable to check right now, I probably just heard a very similar track.

This is why I said PROBABLY, because there are similar loops that Scratch used, and it is possible that the MIT developers used this sample CD, as scratch is known to use samples from other sample CDs, like the Brian Transeau and AMG 160dB ones.

Nintendo did use this multiple times in their games, which is why some might sound familiar.

Also, yes, you did get the full thing, along with the Distorted Reality 2 ones and NKI files for Kontakt, because the one I downloaded before had the same layout.

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Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

1CLICKINFO wrote:

I'm unable to check right now, I probably just heard a very similar track.

This is why I said PROBABLY, because there are similar loops that Scratch used, and it is possible that the MIT developers used this sample CD, as scratch is known to use samples from other sample CDs, like the Brian Transeau and AMG 160dB ones.

Nintendo did use this multiple times in their games, which is why some might sound familiar.

Also, yes, you did get the full thing, along with the Distorted Reality 2 ones and NKI files for Kontakt, because the one I downloaded before had the same layout.
Okay, good to know, yeah.
Well if nothing else it was kind of fun to listen to xD
Plus the track names made me laugh more than once. And “ZWEEP” is also really fun to say xDD
Iron_PumpkinSchool
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Where do the music loops come from?

iamout123 wrote:

It seems that most of the full songs remain on scratch 1.4, Maybe i can check by downloading it.
Thank you! I'd love that :
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charmander83
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

(#172)

-berriwaffle- wrote:

What song is the music loop “Medieval1?” I've been digging around everywhere for the answer but I haven't found it the closest thing I did find was that it was from a song called “Death,” but the author wasn't mentioned and so I couldn't actually find the full song. Does anybody know?
Okay… bear with me… I'm not sure which part of my post is triggering the filter (as far as I can tell, everything I am talking about should be allowed to be said) so I'm just going to try updating this post with a bit at a time until I figure it out.
We're not actually sure if there even *is* a full song, or if there is, if it's even accessible to the internet. As pitobayola said, it was written by Beau Silver - brother of former Scratch Team member Jay Silver, who's also the one who asked bmarcell if the “Eggs” track could be added to Scratch - so it's entirely possible that it was never released apart from as a track on Scratch.
However, a full version of “Cave”, another of Beau Silver's tracks, has been found with metadata that checks out and indicates it being official, but the original source of the file is totally unknown. So it is possible that the full track of “Death” is out there somewhere as well.
A while back I think someone from here tried sending-the-form-of-the-internet-communication-that-is-often-associated-with-an-envelope-icon-ing Beau Silver (it was publicly available on his website, we ARE NOT posting people's info here.) but I don't believe they ever got an answer back. IIRC Jay Silver has a form-of-the-internet-communication-that-is-often-associated-with-an-envelope-icon listed on his site as well, perhaps somebody might want to reach out to him? If he was the person who got the “Eggs” sound, and the brother of Beau Silver, it's entirely possible that he was in charge of finding all the loops used in 1.4.
But I'm too paranoid to send-the-form-of-the-internet-communication-that-is-often-associated-with-an-envelope-icon people unless they send-the-form-of-the-internet-communication-that-is-often-associated-with-an-envelope-icon me first.

oh shoot forgot they updated the forums filter… wELp ThAt'S FuN
for the final time, scratch, merely MENTIONING the existence of other websites DOES NOT MEAN I WANT TO SHARE MY OWN INFO *sigh*

Final edit: Okay, so apparently I'm not allowed to italicize the word ‘is’… I guess the joke's on me for assuming the forum filter would ignore BBCode tags
If you want I could try emailing Jay
RobloxIsDaBest_Epic
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Where do the music loops come from?

donotforgetmycode wrote:

Eggs
can you send us an original link to the song? It’d be very helpful!
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

RobloxIsDaBest_Epic wrote:

donotforgetmycode wrote:

Eggs
can you send us an original link to the song? It’d be very helpful!
That is the original link. The Scratch user bmarcell created the song and imported it into their Scratch project. As far as I know, they didn't post it anywhere else. (It's in the second sprite, btw.)

If you scroll to the bottom of the comments you'll see one from Scratch Team member jay asking if it can be put into the Scratch sound library. (I don't have any concrete evidence for this, but I'm assuming that this is the same person as Jay Silver, AKA Beau Silver's brother, because his website said he worked on Scratch and so it kinda makes the most sense.)

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AxelSonicandHHPAYFan
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Where do the music loops come from?

i might say that odesong's extended version may be unknown for now

when green flag clicked
Find OG Song :: #0088ff

UPDATE: Song was in 2016 Code Week EU Thing

Last edited by AxelSonicandHHPAYFan (May 2, 2024 15:00:16)

Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

AxelSonicandHHPAYFan wrote:

i might say that odesong's extended version may be unknown for now

when green flag clicked
Find OG Song :: #0088ff

UPDATE: Song was in 2016 Code Week EU Thing
Odesong - Sample of “CodeweekEU - Ode To Code” by Brendan Dominic Paolini
Please check my post at the top of page 2 for everything that's been sourced so far!

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