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catdogdonkey
Scratcher
14 posts

Block Idea: Flip!

Hello! I have a new block idea that would help a ton. When working on games, I at least want to mirror the sprite's look and save sprites, but you can only use either or . This gives me a problem, as the only workaround is to duplicate the costumes I want to use and flip those in the costume editor. So, since we already have the code in the costume editor, why can't we add it into the code editor? The flip block would look something like
FlipLeft-RightFlipUp-Down
These would benefit scratch, and it would make things more simple. Thank you!
Elijah999999
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

There is already the
setrotationstyleleft-right
but it is limited.
me_the_super
Scratcher
100+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

Scratch must stay simple, I doubt an 8-year-old is going to figure out how these blocks work. If you hold shift and then rotate something in the costume editor you can get a perfect 180 degrees flip in any direction so we don't need this.

Last edited by me_the_super (Feb. 28, 2024 16:55:05)

The-Sushi-Cat
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

me_the_super wrote:

Scratch must stay simple, I doubt an 8-year-old is going to figure out how these blocks work.

I think 8-year-olds know what flipping is. Even then, there are a lot of blocks that I don't even fully understand yet, especially in the operators section
XCartooonX
Scratcher
500+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

Just do this:
setrotationstyleleft-rightturn180degrees
You can even flip the costume inside the costume editor by using the “flip horizontal” and “flip vertical” buttons.
me_the_super
Scratcher
100+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

The-Sushi-Cat wrote:

me_the_super wrote:

Scratch must stay simple, I doubt an 8-year-old is going to figure out how these blocks work.

I think 8-year-olds know what flipping is. Even then, there are a lot of blocks that I don't even fully understand yet, especially in the operators section
They may know what flipping is, but they still won't know the block does it to costumes. My brother is 8 and still doesn't know how the green flag block works. He can't even make ping-pong!

Last edited by me_the_super (Feb. 28, 2024 17:34:36)

gdfsgdfsgdfg
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

XCartooonX wrote:

Just do this:
setrotationstyleleft-rightturn180degrees
You can even flip the costume inside the costume editor by using the “flip horizontal” and “flip vertical” buttons.
how about up or down
chippysmall4
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

XCartooonX
Scratcher
500+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

XCartooonX wrote:

Just do this:
setrotationstyleleft-rightturn180degrees
You can even flip the costume inside the costume editor by using the “flip horizontal” and “flip vertical” buttons.
how about up or down

XCartooonX wrote:

by using the “flip horizontal” and “flip vertical” buttons.
Not a block function (you can use rotation blocks for that too) but that would be nice.

Last edited by XCartooonX (Feb. 28, 2024 17:35:33)

me_the_super
Scratcher
100+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

XCartooonX wrote:

Just do this:
setrotationstyleleft-rightturn180degrees
You can even flip the costume inside the costume editor by using the “flip horizontal” and “flip vertical” buttons.
how about up or down
In the costume editor, hold shift and rotate it. Then it will only rotate by 45 degrees so you can easily rotate it by 180.
catdogdonkey
Scratcher
14 posts

Block Idea: Flip!

me_the_super wrote:

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

XCartooonX wrote:

Just do this:
setrotationstyleleft-rightturn180degrees
You can even flip the costume inside the costume editor by using the “flip horizontal” and “flip vertical” buttons.
how about up or down
In the costume editor, hold shift and rotate it. Then it will only rotate by 45 degrees so you can easily rotate it by 180.
This is limited though. This block would allow you to both rotate and flip it, so you don't have to make multiple costumes and flip those.
unmet
Scratcher
100+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

me_the_super wrote:

The-Sushi-Cat wrote:

I think 8-year-olds know what flipping is. Even then, there are a lot of blocks that I don't even fully understand yet, especially in the operators section
They may know what flipping is, but they still won't know the block does it to costumes. My brother is 8 and still doesn't know how the green flag block works. He can't even make ping-pong!

so what you're saying is that the green flag block shouldn't exist, right?
me_the_super
Scratcher
100+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

catdogdonkey wrote:

me_the_super wrote:

gdfsgdfsgdfg wrote:

XCartooonX wrote:

Just do this:
setrotationstyleleft-rightturn180degrees
You can even flip the costume inside the costume editor by using the “flip horizontal” and “flip vertical” buttons.
how about up or down
In the costume editor, hold shift and rotate it. Then it will only rotate by 45 degrees so you can easily rotate it by 180.
This is limited though. This block would allow you to both rotate and flip it, so you don't have to make multiple costumes and flip those.
Rotate it by 90 and then 180 so it rotates up-down instead of left-right.
me_the_super
Scratcher
100+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

unmet wrote:

me_the_super wrote:

The-Sushi-Cat wrote:

I think 8-year-olds know what flipping is. Even then, there are a lot of blocks that I don't even fully understand yet, especially in the operators section
They may know what flipping is, but they still won't know the block does it to costumes. My brother is 8 and still doesn't know how the green flag block works. He can't even make ping-pong!

so what you're saying is that the green flag block shouldn't exist, right?
No, I'm saying that you should not overestimate 8-year-olds as some lack the critical thinking skills to do anything useful with blocks that are even a little complicated. If the green flag block was gone that would only make it harder for my brother.

Last edited by me_the_super (Feb. 28, 2024 17:44:51)

Paddle2See
Scratch Team
1000+ posts

Block Idea: Flip!

chippysmall4 wrote:

Duplicate Topic!
Thanks for the link! It does look like this is a duplicate topic so I'll close it to keep the conversation all in one place.

Please use the existing topic in the link above.

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