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RethinkingVoxels
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Minimum requirement for characters/words on OPs in the suggestions forum

You can just spam a bunch of unnecessary stuff. No support
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unmet
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RethinkingVoxels wrote:

You can just spam a bunch of unnecessary stuff. No support
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at least it's something — right now you don't even have to say anything. nonetheless, most people probably wouldn't think to add a bunch of random stuff anyways.
RecessFailsOffical
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RethinkingVoxels wrote:

You can just spam a bunch of unnecessary stuff. No support
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Yeah, but it encourages people to elaborate more.

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Malicondi
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support, i think people only writing “+1” or “support” without any explanation isn't very constructive, so this would be a good addition.
it also makes gen alpha's and gen z's use more than one brain cell

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MythosLore
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Malicondi wrote:

support, i think people only writing “+1” or “support” without any explanation isn't very constructive, so this would be a good addition.
it also makes gen alpha's and gen z's use more than one brain cell
This would just be for the original post.

I hopefully quit the forums.
RecessFailsOffical
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bump

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The-Sushi-Cat
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What about style commands? I still don't know if they'll count or not.

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Try to refrain from saying, ‘No support’. It comes off as extremely negative. “The forums are for criticism! Don't post it you don't want it!” Agreed. But I never said that you should agree with everyone. No suggestion will ever be perfect
What sounds more constructive?
“No support, people would spam with it”
“This would lead to a lot of spam, since people can't get away from it. Not to mention, it might upset a few people with the way it's implemented”

In #1, you didn't help OP at all. You said you didn't like it, and why. Nothing else. Not even what was causing the issue of spam
In #2, you pointed out the flaws and the root causes of them. Flaws shouldn't always get a suggestion absolutely ignored

And simply supporting doesn't always help either. It's not a voting system, it's improving your ideas. There's going to be cons, there's going to be flaws, and that's the point of the suggestions. No suggestion is ever 100% perfect in any way
Here are some things you can look out for:
-Are there any flaws/cons that haven't been addressed or fixed?
-Is this idea fully flushed out? Or are there some questions you can ask?
-Are there any flaws that you know how to fix or do you know how to flush something out a bit more?
-Is there anyone else who is confused and needs some clarification?

If you don't have to do any of these, then you can move on!

Is a suggestion unable to be added because it's just impossible? Point out why and have them decide what to do next
But still, try not to say ‘no support’
RecessFailsOffical
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The-Sushi-Cat wrote:

What about style commands? I still don't know if they'll count or not.

They probably would count, but who's gonna do [b] a million times?

And,

RecessFailsOffical wrote:

Yeah, but it encourages people to elaborate more.

Last edited by RecessFailsOffical (Feb. 26, 2024 19:24:44)


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DangerPuppy10
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For some people, they might not be able to explain it well, or get that many words in because it's just self explanatory. No support.

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cactus-cacti
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Wouldn’t this just result in:

Topic: Dark Mode
Desc.: ^^ hadehsadhhhdfhhhgfdssdccvhnjjkkkkjnbfdssdgnjmhbvcdfbnmmjbsbvghhejhsbbhsjajhnbbahabhhnnnnjshsnsbsnsnhsnshnshshshsjsjssj

RecessFailsOffical
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DangerPuppy10 wrote:

(#29)
For some people, they might not be able to explain it well, or get that many words in because it's just self explanatory. No support.

cactus-cacti wrote:

(#30)
Wouldn’t this just result in:

Topic: Dark Mode
Desc.: ^^ hadehsadhhhdfhhhgfdssdccvhnjjkkkkjnbfdssdgnjmhbvcdfbnmmjbsbvghhejhsbbhsjajhnbbahabhhnnnnjshsnsbsnsnhsnshnshshshsjsjssj

RecessFailsOffical wrote:

(#23)

RethinkingVoxels wrote:

You can just spam a bunch of unnecessary stuff. No support
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Yeah, but it encourages people to elaborate more.


Guys, you can explain dark mode into further detail. You can explain a lot into further detail.

From the OP of the Dark Theme suggestion, there are 202 characters, excluding “Hello” and “Techno”.

Techno-CAT wrote:

The dark theme existed in Scratch 1x, but the developers got rid of it in 2x.

Why not re-implement it? Sometimes bright white can be straining to the eyes, hence need for an option to enable a dark mode.




Last edited by RecessFailsOffical (Feb. 26, 2024 23:15:46)


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forkmanb
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support. I think the dark mode example really puts into perspective just how little 200 characters actually is. I mean, saying you want something and why you want something is often enough to reach the limit.

did you see the above sentence? that's 208 characters. it's not that much.
The-Sushi-Cat
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cactus-cacti wrote:

Wouldn’t this just result in:

Topic: Dark Mode
Desc.: ^^ hadehsadhhhdfhhhgfdssdccvhnjjkkkkjnbfdssdgnjmhbvcdfbnmmjbsbvghhejhsbbhsjajhnbbahabhhnnnnjshsnsbsnsnhsnshnshshshsjsjssj

I think that would be considered spam(?)
It's unnecessary letters and they aren't needed. That would get taken down

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I don't know if I made the right choice

Try to refrain from saying, ‘No support’. It comes off as extremely negative. “The forums are for criticism! Don't post it you don't want it!” Agreed. But I never said that you should agree with everyone. No suggestion will ever be perfect
What sounds more constructive?
“No support, people would spam with it”
“This would lead to a lot of spam, since people can't get away from it. Not to mention, it might upset a few people with the way it's implemented”

In #1, you didn't help OP at all. You said you didn't like it, and why. Nothing else. Not even what was causing the issue of spam
In #2, you pointed out the flaws and the root causes of them. Flaws shouldn't always get a suggestion absolutely ignored

And simply supporting doesn't always help either. It's not a voting system, it's improving your ideas. There's going to be cons, there's going to be flaws, and that's the point of the suggestions. No suggestion is ever 100% perfect in any way
Here are some things you can look out for:
-Are there any flaws/cons that haven't been addressed or fixed?
-Is this idea fully flushed out? Or are there some questions you can ask?
-Are there any flaws that you know how to fix or do you know how to flush something out a bit more?
-Is there anyone else who is confused and needs some clarification?

If you don't have to do any of these, then you can move on!

Is a suggestion unable to be added because it's just impossible? Point out why and have them decide what to do next
But still, try not to say ‘no support’
DangerPuppy10
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RecessFailsOffical wrote:

DangerPuppy10 wrote:

(#29)
For some people, they might not be able to explain it well, or get that many words in because it's just self explanatory. No support.

cactus-cacti wrote:

(#30)
Wouldn’t this just result in:

Topic: Dark Mode
Desc.: ^^ hadehsadhhhdfhhhgfdssdccvhnjjkkkkjnbfdssdgnjmhbvcdfbnmmjbsbvghhejhsbbhsjajhnbbahabhhnnnnjshsnsbsnsnhsnshnshshshsjsjssj

RecessFailsOffical wrote:

(#23)

RethinkingVoxels wrote:

You can just spam a bunch of unnecessary stuff. No support
King of the page no edits


Yeah, but it encourages people to elaborate more.


Guys, you can explain dark mode into further detail. You can explain a lot into further detail.

From the OP of the Dark Theme suggestion, there are 202 characters, excluding “Hello” and “Techno”.

Techno-CAT wrote:

The dark theme existed in Scratch 1x, but the developers got rid of it in 2x.

Why not re-implement it? Sometimes bright white can be straining to the eyes, hence need for an option to enable a dark mode.




I never talked about dark mode, WHY IS EVERYBODY TALKING ABOUT DARK MODE!?!?!?!?!!?!!??!!?!?!?
Like some other people said, this would encourage people to spam because they just can't explain it any further. Not all ideas need much explaining…do not sue me over dark mode. Sure, you could also put reasoning in there, but what if you don't have any more reasoning. This would also make suggestions harder to make, as it would be quite difficult for some people to make 200 character posts over something like…a hide block (I know this exists it's just an example.) And if people can't meet the 200 character mininum, they either commit spamming, or scrap the idea entirely.

press ctrl+shift+q twice quickly or cmd+shift+q twice quickly on Mac

I just realized the controller support button that is in EVERYBODY's signature is just as useless as a cup with a hole in it
I also just realized this signature is previous signatures stacked on top of each other, and I'm too emotionally attached to them I can't LET IT GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!



highlight my signature and do crtl+shift+down to see the rest.






highlight+shift+down to see rest of siggy

first person who comes here gets my account https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1077010200/

me wrote:

Bugs and Glitches is just the suggestions forum but about glitches.


WORSHIP RUBBER DUCK!!!!
I shall


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I live in the suggestions sub-forum.

I might move into a 5-star forum!! I think it's called A“bout Scratch”?
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Most of the time when I make a suggestion, I try and make it long anyway, so this wouldn't bother me that much. It encourages people to explain their suggestion in greater depth, either that or it encourages people to do this. v

Scratchedbyyou wrote:

I can spam text then make it invisible to bypass it. (Don't try to read it)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU CAN READ THIS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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DangerPuppy10
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Scratchedbyyou_forum wrote:

Most of the time when I make a suggestion, I try and make it long anyway, so this wouldn't bother me that much. It encourages people to explain their suggestion in greater depth, either that or it encourages people to do this. v

Scratchedbyyou wrote:

I can spam text then make it invisible to bypass it. (Don't try to read it)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YOU CAN READ THIS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Like this: I AM A FISH FROM NORTH ANTARCTICA WHO WILL EAT ALL OF YOUR FOOD AND DANCE ON YOUR TV AND BLOW UP YOUR COUCH IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW ME!?

I guess you can't tell because it's transparent.

press ctrl+shift+q twice quickly or cmd+shift+q twice quickly on Mac

I just realized the controller support button that is in EVERYBODY's signature is just as useless as a cup with a hole in it
I also just realized this signature is previous signatures stacked on top of each other, and I'm too emotionally attached to them I can't LET IT GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!



highlight my signature and do crtl+shift+down to see the rest.






highlight+shift+down to see rest of siggy

first person who comes here gets my account https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1077010200/

me wrote:

Bugs and Glitches is just the suggestions forum but about glitches.


WORSHIP RUBBER DUCK!!!!
I shall


[img]https://assets.scratch.mit.edu/scratchr2/static/.%2E/.%2E/[image name here]/img]





I live in the suggestions sub-forum.

I might move into a 5-star forum!! I think it's called A“bout Scratch”?
YIPPEEEEEE


It would be greatly appreciated if you gave me an internet!








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DangerPuppy10 wrote:

Scratchedbyyou_forum wrote:

-snip-
Like this: I AM A FISH FROM NORTH ANTARCTICA WHO WILL EAT ALL OF YOUR FOOD AND DANCE ON YOUR TV AND BLOW UP YOUR COUCH IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW ME!?

I guess you can't tell because it's transparent.
That is until I quote it or highlight it.

DangerPuppy10 wrote:

I AM A FISH FROM NORTH ANTARCTICA WHO WILL EAT ALL OF YOUR FOOD AND DANCE ON YOUR TV AND BLOW UP YOUR COUCH IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW ME!?
But anyway, it would still let people bypass this rule.

Last edited by Scratchedbyyou_forum (Feb. 27, 2024 02:34:23)


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DangerPuppy10
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Scratchedbyyou_forum wrote:

DangerPuppy10 wrote:

Scratchedbyyou_forum wrote:

-snip-
Like this: I AM A FISH FROM NORTH ANTARCTICA WHO WILL EAT ALL OF YOUR FOOD AND DANCE ON YOUR TV AND BLOW UP YOUR COUCH IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW ME!?

I guess you can't tell because it's transparent.
That is until I quote it or highlight it.

DangerPuppy10 wrote:

I AM A FISH FROM NORTH ANTARCTICA WHO WILL EAT ALL OF YOUR FOOD AND DANCE ON YOUR TV AND BLOW UP YOUR COUCH IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW ME!?
But anyway, it would still let people bypass this rule.
Forgot about that.

press ctrl+shift+q twice quickly or cmd+shift+q twice quickly on Mac

I just realized the controller support button that is in EVERYBODY's signature is just as useless as a cup with a hole in it
I also just realized this signature is previous signatures stacked on top of each other, and I'm too emotionally attached to them I can't LET IT GOOOOOOOOOOO!!!



highlight my signature and do crtl+shift+down to see the rest.






highlight+shift+down to see rest of siggy

first person who comes here gets my account https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/1077010200/

me wrote:

Bugs and Glitches is just the suggestions forum but about glitches.


WORSHIP RUBBER DUCK!!!!
I shall


[img]https://assets.scratch.mit.edu/scratchr2/static/.%2E/.%2E/[image name here]/img]





I live in the suggestions sub-forum.

I might move into a 5-star forum!! I think it's called A“bout Scratch”?
YIPPEEEEEE


It would be greatly appreciated if you gave me an internet!








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The-Sushi-Cat
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It doesn't matter if you spam text. I don't think that it's allowed to add unnecessary letters and numbers. It'd get removed by a moderator I think

Could be wrong tho

Making a counterargument? Look here first!
An evil kumquat ate my first username lol

I took a break from the forums because it did a number on my mental health and made me consider some not so good choices. I came back because I thought I was ready, but I feel like I can still barely handle it, even with staying away from most drama hotspots…

I don't know if I made the right choice

Try to refrain from saying, ‘No support’. It comes off as extremely negative. “The forums are for criticism! Don't post it you don't want it!” Agreed. But I never said that you should agree with everyone. No suggestion will ever be perfect
What sounds more constructive?
“No support, people would spam with it”
“This would lead to a lot of spam, since people can't get away from it. Not to mention, it might upset a few people with the way it's implemented”

In #1, you didn't help OP at all. You said you didn't like it, and why. Nothing else. Not even what was causing the issue of spam
In #2, you pointed out the flaws and the root causes of them. Flaws shouldn't always get a suggestion absolutely ignored

And simply supporting doesn't always help either. It's not a voting system, it's improving your ideas. There's going to be cons, there's going to be flaws, and that's the point of the suggestions. No suggestion is ever 100% perfect in any way
Here are some things you can look out for:
-Are there any flaws/cons that haven't been addressed or fixed?
-Is this idea fully flushed out? Or are there some questions you can ask?
-Are there any flaws that you know how to fix or do you know how to flush something out a bit more?
-Is there anyone else who is confused and needs some clarification?

If you don't have to do any of these, then you can move on!

Is a suggestion unable to be added because it's just impossible? Point out why and have them decide what to do next
But still, try not to say ‘no support’
TheEpikGamer211
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I don't write posts very well, so no support.

Last edited by TheEpikGamer211 (Feb. 27, 2024 14:30:14)


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