Fuzzbutt wrote:

I wrote:

Stop talking about circumventing the swear filter! It's off topic.

We're talking about a live chat. A filter is as far as I can see necessary. We've got to find most if not all ways around the filter if we want to perfect the filter.

You keep making me come back to read messages here! I'm trying to do safe chat work.

IAP-Reloaded wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

I wrote:

Stop talking about circumventing the swear filter! It's off topic.

We're talking about a live chat. A filter is as far as I can see necessary. We've got to find most if not all ways around the filter if we want to perfect the filter.

You keep making me come back to read messages here! I'm trying to do safe chat work.

Me to! I'm doing a complete multiplayer engine! Safe chat, movement, it has it all! BTW to check you messages without leaving your project, left click on the message icon and click ‘open in new tab’. Leave this tab up so you can reload the page and see if you have any new messages.

Sonickyle wrote:

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

No support, chat rooms aren't allowed.

I agree with the others, although a collaboration would be nice!

Fuzzbutt wrote:

I wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

I wrote:

Stop talking about circumventing the swear filter! It's off topic.

We're talking about a live chat. A filter is as far as I can see necessary. We've got to find most if not all ways around the filter if we want to perfect the filter.

You keep making me come back to read messages here! I'm trying to do safe chat work.

Me to! I'm doing a complete multiplayer engine! Safe chat, movement, it has it all! BTW to check you messages without leaving your project, left click on the message icon and click ‘open in new tab’. Leave this tab up so you can reload the page and see if you have any new messages.

-_- Do you think I'm new to coding and computers? I'm actually running beta software of OS X Yosemite right now…

It should only be ST and if they put it back, community moderators. Not just random experienced people

savaka wrote:

It should only be ST and if they put it back, community moderators. Not just random experienced people

Random experienced people? I didn't say that. I said people who are experienced and have been since Scratch 1.4.

Fuzzbutt wrote:

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Blueinkproductions wrote:

AFAIK, swearing isn't blocked in the forums.

Really? I haven't tried, but have you seen it done? (Just to know if you've been told this or you have experienced it.)

I've seen someone use… well… fill in the blank:

“Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a _____”

In the comments. It seems like this could be avoided VERY easily….

Yeah, I can see how the ST might have some problems with that. Which just got me wondering, is the fill-in-the-blanc technique allowed? It's not using any inappropriate words, but the meaning is the same. And how much of the word are we allowed to post? Just the first letter and then some asterisks? So many questions! It would probably be easier to just eliminate all use of an inappropriate word. (Which I see no problem with, since you can express you opinion with many word that are allowed on scratch.)

Well I know someone named Frank. I tried posting their name and asterisk-ing the inbetween letters so people wouldn't figure it out. It didn't let me post though for obvious reasons.

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Blueinkproductions wrote:

AFAIK, swearing isn't blocked in the forums.

Really? I haven't tried, but have you seen it done? (Just to know if you've been told this or you have experienced it.)

I've seen someone use… well… fill in the blank:

“Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a _____”

In the comments. It seems like this could be avoided VERY easily….

Yeah, I can see how the ST might have some problems with that. Which just got me wondering, is the fill-in-the-blanc technique allowed? It's not using any inappropriate words, but the meaning is the same. And how much of the word are we allowed to post? Just the first letter and then some asterisks? So many questions! It would probably be easier to just eliminate all use of an inappropriate word. (Which I see no problem with, since you can express you opinion with many word that are allowed on scratch.)

Well I know someone named Frank. I tried posting their name and asterisk-ing the inbetween letters so people wouldn't figure it out. It didn't let me post though for obvious reasons.

Really? It's five letters, not four.

Fuzzbutt wrote:

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Blueinkproductions wrote:

AFAIK, swearing isn't blocked in the forums.

Really? I haven't tried, but have you seen it done? (Just to know if you've been told this or you have experienced it.)

I've seen someone use… well… fill in the blank:

“Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a _____”

In the comments. It seems like this could be avoided VERY easily….

Yeah, I can see how the ST might have some problems with that. Which just got me wondering, is the fill-in-the-blanc technique allowed? It's not using any inappropriate words, but the meaning is the same. And how much of the word are we allowed to post? Just the first letter and then some asterisks? So many questions! It would probably be easier to just eliminate all use of an inappropriate word. (Which I see no problem with, since you can express you opinion with many word that are allowed on scratch.)

Well I know someone named Frank. I tried posting their name and asterisk-ing the inbetween letters so people wouldn't figure it out. It didn't let me post though for obvious reasons.

Really? It's five letters, not four.

Let me try it.
I know someone named Frank but I won't post their name because this is a simulation in which I'll post their name with asterisks. Any similarity between this and another word is pure imagination. F***k is the name of my friend.

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Blueinkproductions wrote:

AFAIK, swearing isn't blocked in the forums.

Really? I haven't tried, but have you seen it done? (Just to know if you've been told this or you have experienced it.)

I've seen someone use… well… fill in the blank:

“Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a _____”

In the comments. It seems like this could be avoided VERY easily….

Yeah, I can see how the ST might have some problems with that. Which just got me wondering, is the fill-in-the-blanc technique allowed? It's not using any inappropriate words, but the meaning is the same. And how much of the word are we allowed to post? Just the first letter and then some asterisks? So many questions! It would probably be easier to just eliminate all use of an inappropriate word. (Which I see no problem with, since you can express you opinion with many word that are allowed on scratch.)

Well I know someone named Frank. I tried posting their name and asterisk-ing the inbetween letters so people wouldn't figure it out. It didn't let me post though for obvious reasons.

Really? It's five letters, not four.

Let me try it.
I know someone named Frank but I won't post their name because this is a simulation in which I'll post their name with asterisks. Any similarity between this and another word is pure imagination. F***k is the name of my friend.

It worked! Yay! *breaks into victory song and dance* Turn it off! Turn it off, like a light switch, just go ‘click’. It's a cool little…… *sees people staring at me strangely* Never mind.

No support. Collaborative editing would be awesome but who's going to moderate the chats?

I support collaborative editing, but for chat, please use some other service like IRC, Skype, or Google Hangouts (and make sure you only edit with people you know)

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

No support, chat rooms aren't allowed.

Potato, FREEFORM chat rooms are banned in PROJECTS because people can swear. Whitelisted Word Chatrooms are OK, and this is just suggesting a built-in Scratch chat.
Builtin scratch chat would be fine. Just use the existing Bad Word Detector and a regex algorithm to siphon out phone numbers and addresses.

define support
change [supporters v] by (1)
add (username) to [supporting  v]

support

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Blueinkproductions wrote:

AFAIK, swearing isn't blocked in the forums.

Really? I haven't tried, but have you seen it done? (Just to know if you've been told this or you have experienced it.)

I've seen someone use… well… fill in the blank:

“Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a _____”

In the comments. It seems like this could be avoided VERY easily….

Of course, anyone who gets that reference is going to be mature, and thus not offended (significantly) by cursing. In my most humble of opinions, it's not about preventing anyone from slipping something through, but about making it hard enough to decypher anything slipped through that the only people who get it won't be offended.

hppavilion wrote:

OmnipotentPotato wrote:

Fuzzbutt wrote:

Blueinkproductions wrote:

AFAIK, swearing isn't blocked in the forums.

Really? I haven't tried, but have you seen it done? (Just to know if you've been told this or you have experienced it.)

I've seen someone use… well… fill in the blank:

“Quite frankly my dear, I don't give a _____”

In the comments. It seems like this could be avoided VERY easily….

Of course, anyone who gets that reference is going to be mature, and thus not offended (significantly) by cursing. In my most humble of opinions, it's not about preventing anyone from slipping something through, but about making it hard enough to decypher anything slipped through that the only people who get it won't be offended.

No, they didn't use the phrase. They took the blank word and did this

“____ I can't get more than 5”

Support! I'd love to help with this myself

I have built on this suggestion: opening “Help” would have a few buttons: Scratch Wiki, mini help book, and Live Chat/forum client. Mini help book is what you use today. Scratch Wiki shows the Scratch Wiki in the sidebar. Live Chat/forum client would be direct access to posting on the Help forum, with less BBCode. You could drag scripts to convert to scratchblocks2 and the project would automatically be linked. You could also get notified by a red menu bar, and helpers would be notified using a browser extension, mobile or desktop app, or floating button on Scratch.

No support because of swearing and people meeting strangers

What about live multi-player project editing with chat? And the project creator can undo things and give people permissions

Penguin9090_new wrote:

No support because of swearing and people meeting strangers

It is a forums client, which uses all the rules to stop swearing and sharing contact information.

…and on the forums, you need to have an account!

kj25360 wrote:

What about live multi-player project editing with chat? And the project creator can undo things and give people permissions

The person who needs help can accept/deny suggestions. An example suggestion viewed within the client would be:

suggestion by @IAP-Reloaded::hat events
add variable [Score] :: variables
add list [Highscores] :: list
add [script] to [Sprite1  v] :: events // This is for resetting the score on start.
add sprite [Sprite2 v] :: control
remove [costume5 v] from [Sprite1 v] :: looks
move [Sprite2 v] to x (0) y (0) :: motion
add block [say nothing] :: custom
edit instructions [WASD for movement.] :: grey
change project name to [In-Editor Live Chat: the Game!] :: grey
disable comments :: undefined
add extension [WeDo v] :: extension

comment::control
accept::operators
deny::undefined

Events would be scripting, control would be sprites, looks would be costumes/backdrops, motion would be the position a sprite starts at, and
comments can be added optionally. Variables and lists would be used for default values in lists. Custom blocks would be for define blocks being created or dragged from the backpack. Gray blocks would be edits on the project name, instructions, or notes/credits, while red blocks would be for disabling/enabling comments, replying, deleting comments, and such. Finally, extension edits would be extension blocks, and accept, deny, and comment would be options.