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moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

Not saying that I would do this anytime soon, but if you were to leave Scratch or you got banned or something, you can get your projects taken down through email (I have done this once), but I'm wondering if you can request to have all of your art taken down, including remixes. For example, you make a project and there's 3 remixes from people, but after you unshare the project and leave Scratch, is it possible to request that those 3 remixes get taken down since your original project is no longer up and it's your art anyway?

In addition, when a project is unshared, all remixes will lose the “Original project” tag so the project will look like its original instead of a remix even though it isn't, so all these remixes are now against the guidelines anyway.
Spentinium
Scratcher
100+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

No, you can't unshare all remixes. While it is true that the remixes lose their ‘Original Project’ tag, the reason for it is because the original author took down their work (and there is nothing to credit). The projects on Scratch are subject to the ShareAlike 2.0 License, so people may keep their remixes up.
Za-Chary
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

Spentinium wrote:

No, you can't unshare all remixes. While it is true that the remixes lose their ‘Original Project’ tag, the reason for it is because the original author took down their work (and there is nothing to credit). The projects on Scratch are subject to the ShareAlike 2.0 License, so people may keep their remixes up.
I wouldn't exactly say “there is nothing to credit” — they would not have made the art, so they should be giving credit. Everybody must give credit for things they did not make, whether they got those things on Scratch or outside of Scratch.

But to elaborate on this answer: by posting your art on Scratch, you are giving permission to everybody to use your art, as long as they give you credit and change something about it. The “Original project” tag is considered sufficient credit, so if this disappears and the user has not credited you in the Instructions or Notes and Credits, you could contact the Scratch Team about it. But the most that they'd be able to do is unshare the project and ask the user to give you credit — which, if they reshare the project and include proper credit, then you can't really do anything else about it.
moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

Za-Chary wrote:

The “Original project” tag is considered sufficient credit, so if this disappears and the user has not credited you in the Instructions or Notes and Credits, you could contact the Scratch Team about it..
Just curious why it disappears since it makes a ton of projects go against the guidelines after the OG project is unshared. If it's “sufficient credit”, then the notes and credits aren't necessary, yet not including them will result in the project getting taken down for not crediting if the OG ever gets unshared.
DarthVader4Life
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

moss-shadow wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

The “Original project” tag is considered sufficient credit, so if this disappears and the user has not credited you in the Instructions or Notes and Credits, you could contact the Scratch Team about it..
Just curious why it disappears since it makes a ton of projects go against the guidelines after the OG project is unshared. If it's “sufficient credit”, then the notes and credits aren't necessary, yet not including them will result in the project getting taken down for not crediting if the OG ever gets unshared.
I think he was talking more about people backpacking art and placing it within their own project (thus circumventing the automatic credit). However, giving credit in the Instructions or Notes and Credits sections regardless is generally good practice.
WindowsAdmin
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

Spentinium wrote:

No, you can't unshare all remixes. While it is true that the remixes lose their ‘Original Project’ tag, the reason for it is because the original author took down their work (and there is nothing to credit). The projects on Scratch are subject to the ShareAlike 2.0 License, so people may keep their remixes up.
Workaround is to hide your full name 10 layers deep down in the code, and then request scratch to nuke the project, but why would you even do that????
Za-Chary
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

moss-shadow wrote:

Just curious why it disappears since it makes a ton of projects go against the guidelines after the OG project is unshared. If it's “sufficient credit”, then the notes and credits aren't necessary, yet not including them will result in the project getting taken down for not crediting if the OG ever gets unshared.
I'm not really sure why it disappears. But I disagree with Notes and Credits being “unnecessary.” Aside from the fact that you can put notes in them, you can also use this field to credit those who you used art/sounds/etc. from — via backpacking, for instance. You don't need to remix a project in order to use their assets.
ajskateboarder
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

Okay so I did some experimenting and I have found that while remixes get their OP tag removed, the original project ID can still be found in the API

For instance, this project: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/879481219/ has had its parent project deleted
But if you go here: https://api.scratch.mit.edu/projects/879481219/ you can still find the ID to the remix parent



So if you still have links to the remixes, you can verify that the remixes match your original project ID and contact Scratch to get them unshared
Fun_Cupcake_i81
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

Well, you couldn't get them unshared, because according to my understanding of the CC license, as long as the person remixed WHILE your project WAS on Scratch (i.e. while it was under the CC license) it would still be able to stay up. However, there SHOULD be a way for a credit to be added, since otherwise it would appear to the casual viewer to be the original work of the remixer, when it's actually not. I'm not sure how you could get that credit added on though…

The moral of the story?
Maybe just… don't delete your projects? Maybe I'm just saying this as Cupcake the Crazy Archival Person with the 10.83 gigs of downloaded SB3s*, and I mean, that is a pretty fair argument, but at least that way, it would be forever on record that it was actually your work…

*It's actually a bit more than this. There's a few I wasn't counting.
moss-shadow
Scratcher
500+ posts

Unsharing all remixes

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

it would be forever on record that it was actually your work…
I have seen a bunch of “Original projects” that are actually just remixes of a project that was taken down by ScratchTeam (usually really inappropriate ones or ones with curse words, etc), and the OP was banned or left Scratch. I don't trust the “forever” record since, worse case scenario, you could get banned and your project gets taken down (ie mass reported or someone claims that you stole from them. Has happened to me), and you really can't do anything about it. Especially since even if the project gets put back up, the share date is reset and now anyone who had remixed could claim that they were the original project.
fswordattack
Scratcher
2 posts

Unsharing all remixes

thx IDK

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