im also taking a break especially with my project

abcde26 wrote:

Hello guys! This collab has really been quiet. Thank you RM for filling me up. So should we temporarily close the collab? (like not FOREVER like for a few weeks) I'm just too busy with daily life and I, just am taking a break from scratch. Probably RM should take over as supreme leader until I come back (unless he accepts). So this is not final but i'm gonna leave it to YOU guys:

Should we temp close the collab?

a) Yes! I think it deserves to rest for a while.
b) No! It's on the right path!
c) I have my own opinion (please be frank and opinion away!)
d) I think we should continue with a new leader (NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL RM AGREES)

A,I haven’t been that active lately on collaborations due to school. Sorry about this!

abcde26 wrote:

(#60)
Hello guys! This collab has really been quiet. Thank you RM for filling me up. So should we temporarily close the collab? (like not FOREVER like for a few weeks) I'm just too busy with daily life and I, just am taking a break from scratch. Probably RM should take over as supreme leader until I come back (unless he accepts). So this is not final but i'm gonna leave it to YOU guys:

Should we temp close the collab?

a) Yes! I think it deserves to rest for a while.
b) No! It's on the right path!
c) I have my own opinion (please be frank and opinion away!)
d) I think we should continue with a new leader (NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL RM AGREES)

A Please

abcde26 wrote:

Hello guys! This collab has really been quiet. Thank you RM for filling me up. So should we temporarily close the collab? (like not FOREVER like for a few weeks) I'm just too busy with daily life and I, just am taking a break from scratch. Probably RM should take over as supreme leader until I come back (unless he accepts). So this is not final but i'm gonna leave it to YOU guys:

Should we temp close the collab?

a) Yes! I think it deserves to rest for a while.
b) No! It's on the right path!
c) I have my own opinion (please be frank and opinion away!)
d) I think we should continue with a new leader (NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL RM AGREES)

definitely A, and i don't accept being leader

also about cortana, can't it just have one voice?
cortana is definitely not a male name

aand also sorry for asking many times but can i be manager of tasks after the break (if there is a break)?

Alright guys, after your responses, these decisions are final (the thread will be open for 1 more day to hear your opinions):

1) RM will NOT be the task handler (this decision is final and permanent until further updates)

2) This collab will be on break until December 25th (Christmas)

3) We will try to work during Christmas break

4) Only voice actors will be under hiring

5) Frequent activity checks

6) Name will be changed to Windows 11.1 for the first builds (and then to something else before release candidate 2)

Versions are also important so, here are the version that will be there:

Beta Stage

B001 (NT 11101)
B002 (NT 11101)
B003 (NT 11101)
B004 (NT 11101)
B005 (NT 11101)

Alpha Stage

A001 (NT 11102)
A002 (NT 11102)
A003 (NT 11102)
A004 (NT 11102)
A005 (NT 11102)

Gamma Stage

G001 (NT 11103)
G002 (NT 11103)
G003 (NT 11103)
G004 (NT 11103)
G005 (NT 11105)

Release Candidate Stage

RC1 (NT 11105)
RC2 (NT 11105)
RC3 (NT 11200)
RC4 (NT 11200)
RC5 (NT 11200)

Final Stage

FRC1 (NT 11200)
FRC2 (NT 11200)
FRC3 (NT 11200)
FRC4 (NT 11200)
FRC5 (NT 11200)

Relased Stage

V1 (NT 11200)

That's it from me! If you guys have anything to say, be free to say ANYTHING until December 3rd 10:00 AM IST.
I will respond to you guys.

Thank you for all your guys work! I appreciate you people!

~ Signing off until Christmas,
@abcde26

abcde26 wrote:

1) RM will NOT be the task handler (this decision is final and permanent until further updates)

alright sorry

abcde26 wrote:

Beta Stage

B001 (NT 11101)
B002 (NT 11101)
B003 (NT 11101)
B004 (NT 11101)
B005 (NT 11101)

Alpha Stage

A001 (NT 11102)
A002 (NT 11102)
A003 (NT 11102)
A004 (NT 11102)
A005 (NT 11102)

Gamma Stage

G001 (NT 11103)
G002 (NT 11103)
G003 (NT 11103)
G004 (NT 11103)
G005 (NT 11105)

Release Candidate Stage

RC1 (NT 11105)
RC2 (NT 11105)
RC3 (NT 11200)
RC4 (NT 11200)
RC5 (NT 11200)

Final Stage

FRC1 (NT 11200)
FRC2 (NT 11200)
FRC3 (NT 11200)
FRC4 (NT 11200)
FRC5 (NT 11200)

Relased Stage

V1 (NT 11200)

is it just me or is beta, alpha, then gamma weird? shouldnt it be alpha, beta, then gamma?
like, alpha always comes before beta in nearly all software, and the greek alphabet is just ordered like that

abcde26 wrote:

be free to say ANYTHING until December 3rd 10:00 AM IST.

ANYTHING

(lol sorry bad joke)

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

(#66)

abcde26 wrote:

1) RM will NOT be the task handler (this decision is final and permanent until further updates)

alright sorry

abcde26 wrote:

Beta Stage

B001 (NT 11101)
B002 (NT 11101)
B003 (NT 11101)
B004 (NT 11101)
B005 (NT 11101)

Alpha Stage

A001 (NT 11102)
A002 (NT 11102)
A003 (NT 11102)
A004 (NT 11102)
A005 (NT 11102)

Gamma Stage

G001 (NT 11103)
G002 (NT 11103)
G003 (NT 11103)
G004 (NT 11103)
G005 (NT 11105)

Release Candidate Stage

RC1 (NT 11105)
RC2 (NT 11105)
RC3 (NT 11200)
RC4 (NT 11200)
RC5 (NT 11200)

Final Stage

FRC1 (NT 11200)
FRC2 (NT 11200)
FRC3 (NT 11200)
FRC4 (NT 11200)
FRC5 (NT 11200)

Relased Stage

V1 (NT 11200)

is it just me or is beta, alpha, then gamma weird? shouldnt it be alpha, beta, then gamma?
like, alpha always comes before beta in nearly all software, and the greek alphabet is just ordered like that

abcde26 wrote:

be free to say ANYTHING until December 3rd 10:00 AM IST.

ANYTHING

(lol sorry bad joke)

The correct order would be: Alpha, Beta, Release Candidate, Released. There would be no “Final Stage” or “Gamma Releases”

kkidslogin wrote:

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

schnippe

The correct order would be: Alpha, Beta, Release Candidate, Released. There would be no “Final Stage” or “Gamma Releases”

yeah

some other possible choices:

• maybe we could do the same thing as cornmoji and have alpha, beta, gamma, then released
  
• semantic versioning? its nothing like what real windows uses, but this alpha beta thing isnt too
  
• 2023-01, 2023-02, …
  

also bad suggestion, instead of NT (new technology), we have ST (scratch technology)

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

(#68)

kkidslogin wrote:

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

schnippe

The correct order would be: Alpha, Beta, Release Candidate, Released. There would be no “Final Stage” or “Gamma Releases”

yeah

some other possible choices:

• maybe we could do the same thing as cornmoji and have alpha, beta, gamma, then released
  
• semantic versioning? its nothing like what real windows uses, but this alpha beta thing isnt too
  
• 2023-01, 2023-02, …
  

also bad suggestion, instead of NT (new technology), we have ST (scratch technology)

ST would be confused with Scratch Team

We should use a loose Semver after we release; it would be cumbersome to use during development.

Username?: NIKI-KOLCHAGOV
Scratcher/New Scratcher?: Scratcher for 3 years
Role(s)?: Designer / Coder
Any 3 example projects (to showcase if you are capable the roles above)?: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/885177163/https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/931197920/https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/738130680/
Activity level (from one to ten)?: 7
Short description about yourself?(1-2 sentences): Im a bulgarian high schooler who makes cool and unique games
Are you following this topic?: yes
Magic Word : Bloom

NIKI-KOLCHAGOV wrote:

Username?: NIKI-KOLCHAGOV
Scratcher/New Scratcher?: Scratcher for 3 years
Role(s)?: Designer / Coder
Any 3 example projects (to showcase if you are capable the roles above)?: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/885177163/https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/931197920/https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/738130680/
Activity level (from one to ten)?: 7
Short description about yourself?(1-2 sentences): Im a bulgarian high schooler who makes cool and unique games
Are you following this topic?: yes
Magic Word : Bloom

we currently arent aceepting applications, sorry

kkidslogin wrote:

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

(#68)

kkidslogin wrote:

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

schnippe

The correct order would be: Alpha, Beta, Release Candidate, Released. There would be no “Final Stage” or “Gamma Releases”

yeah

some other possible choices:

• maybe we could do the same thing as cornmoji and have alpha, beta, gamma, then released
  
• semantic versioning? its nothing like what real windows uses, but this alpha beta thing isnt too
  
• 2023-01, 2023-02, …
  

also bad suggestion, instead of NT (new technology), we have ST (scratch technology)

ST would be confused with Scratch Team

We should use a loose Semver after we release; it would be cumbersome to use during development.

i didnt think about that lol

maybe like semver but instead
X.x.x = complete revamp from the ground up or really major update
x.X.x = major update, large ui change
x.x.X = minor update
we probably arent gonna have security patches cuz uh, there is no security, scratch cant access low level system stuff ofc

and for each development version we go on the greek alphabet
so like 1.0.0-alpha, 1.0.0-beta, then release (1.0.0)
or if its a big version and theres so many development versions it just keeps going, like 1.0.0-alpha, 1.0.0-beta, 1.0.0-gamma, 1.0.0-delta, …, then when its done we release (1.0.0)
and if we somehow reach omega then idk just release it first or somethin lol

like my point is, if we limit the number of development versions to a certain number itll just be a hassle
and just throw release candidate out the window cuz everyone can see dev versions anyways, this is scratch

actually wait didnt real windows use something like semver, atleast numbers with dots?
there was windows 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, 2.11, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 3.5, 3.51, then it just went to windows 95 which was actually 4.0
then they returned to the numbering versions with windows 7 (which was actually 6.1, thanks microsoft)
(all of this not including weird dos based and nt stuff)

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

(#71)

NIKI-KOLCHAGOV wrote:

Username?: NIKI-KOLCHAGOV
Scratcher/New Scratcher?: Scratcher for 3 years
Role(s)?: Designer / Coder
Any 3 example projects (to showcase if you are capable the roles above)?: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/885177163/https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/931197920/https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/738130680/
Activity level (from one to ten)?: 7
Short description about yourself?(1-2 sentences): Im a bulgarian high schooler who makes cool and unique games
Are you following this topic?: yes
Magic Word : Bloom

we currently arent aceepting applications, sorry

kkidslogin wrote:

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

(#68)

kkidslogin wrote:

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

schnippe

The correct order would be: Alpha, Beta, Release Candidate, Released. There would be no “Final Stage” or “Gamma Releases”

yeah

some other possible choices:

• maybe we could do the same thing as cornmoji and have alpha, beta, gamma, then released
  
• semantic versioning? its nothing like what real windows uses, but this alpha beta thing isnt too
  
• 2023-01, 2023-02, …
  

also bad suggestion, instead of NT (new technology), we have ST (scratch technology)

ST would be confused with Scratch Team

We should use a loose Semver after we release; it would be cumbersome to use during development.

i didnt think about that lol

maybe like semver but instead
X.x.x = complete revamp from the ground up or really major update
x.X.x = major update, large ui change
x.x.X = minor update
we probably arent gonna have security patches cuz uh, there is no security, scratch cant access low level system stuff ofc

and for each development version we go on the greek alphabet
so like 1.0.0-alpha, 1.0.0-beta, then release (1.0.0)
or if its a big version and theres so many development versions it just keeps going, like 1.0.0-alpha, 1.0.0-beta, 1.0.0-gamma, 1.0.0-delta, …, then when its done we release (1.0.0)
and if we somehow reach omega then idk just release it first or somethin lol

like my point is, if we limit the number of development versions to a certain number itll just be a hassle
and just throw release candidate out the window cuz everyone can see dev versions anyways, this is scratch

actually wait didnt real windows use something like semver, atleast numbers with dots?
there was windows 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, 2.11, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 3.5, 3.51, then it just went to windows 95 which was actually 4.0
then they returned to the numbering versions with windows 7 (which was actually 6.1, thanks microsoft)
(all of this not including weird dos based and nt stuff)

For us, “Security Updates” would be small bugfixes.

Alright, I had zero power or internet due to a tropical storm (thank you)
So, let's see replies:

NIKI-KOLCHAGOV wrote:

Username?: NIKI-KOLCHAGOV
Scratcher/New Scratcher?: Scratcher for 3 years
Role(s)?: Designer / Coder
Any 3 example projects (to showcase if you are capable the roles above)?: https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/885177163/https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/931197920/https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/738130680/
Activity level (from one to ten)?: 7
Short description about yourself?(1-2 sentences): Im a bulgarian high schooler who makes cool and unique games
Are you following this topic?: yes
Magic Word : Bloom

(I know RM said no but whatever) So, basically we are currently “cancelled” which means we are not gonna be there for a while, Your application is good, and it you are in, but you will be working as soon as we OFFICIALLY (which isn't gonna be for a while).

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

Macrohard Onfire (evil brotha of Microsoft Office) wrote:

-snippe snappy schnipity-

maybe like semver but instead
X.x.x = complete revamp from the ground up or really major update
x.X.x = major update, large ui change
x.x.X = minor update
we probably arent gonna have security patches cuz uh, there is no security, scratch cant access low level system stuff ofc

and for each development version we go on the greek alphabet
so like 1.0.0-alpha, 1.0.0-beta, then release (1.0.0)
or if its a big version and theres so many development versions it just keeps going, like 1.0.0-alpha, 1.0.0-beta, 1.0.0-gamma, 1.0.0-delta, …, then when its done we release (1.0.0)
and if we somehow reach omega then idk just release it first or somethin lol

like my point is, if we limit the number of development versions to a certain number itll just be a hassle
and just throw release candidate out the window cuz everyone can see dev versions anyways, this is scratch

actually wait didnt real windows use something like semver, atleast numbers with dots?
there was windows 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, 2.11, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 3.5, 3.51, then it just went to windows 95 which was actually 4.0
then they returned to the numbering versions with windows 7 (which was actually 6.1, thanks microsoft)
(all of this not including weird dos based and nt stuff)

1 ) No security patches, hmm….
that could be quite concerning in real life…
But since this is scratch, yeah I think we SHOULD add it, but as really really minor update

Like:

x.x.x.X - really really tiny updates or bug fixes (semver is broken now)

2) Alright, should we remove the greek alphabet to like letters of the english alphabet? like:
1.0.0-a, 1.0.0-b, 1.0.0-c, and so on.

Reason: trust me br- Just to be unique
Yeah I think that is a bad idea..

3) We are following suit.

I gonna make a teaser trailer (cuz i'm bored and i should be studying for a exam hehehe)

abcde26 wrote:

RobloxianMinecraft wrote:

wat wrote:

-snippe snappy schnipity-

maybe like semver but instead
X.x.x = complete revamp from the ground up or really major update
x.X.x = major update, large ui change
x.x.X = minor update
we probably arent gonna have security patches cuz uh, there is no security, scratch cant access low level system stuff ofc

and for each development version we go on the greek alphabet
so like 1.0.0-alpha, 1.0.0-beta, then release (1.0.0)
or if its a big version and theres so many development versions it just keeps going, like 1.0.0-alpha, 1.0.0-beta, 1.0.0-gamma, 1.0.0-delta, …, then when its done we release (1.0.0)
and if we somehow reach omega then idk just release it first or somethin lol

like my point is, if we limit the number of development versions to a certain number itll just be a hassle
and just throw release candidate out the window cuz everyone can see dev versions anyways, this is scratch

actually wait didnt real windows use something like semver, atleast numbers with dots?
there was windows 1.0, 2.0, 2.1, 2.11, 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 3.5, 3.51, then it just went to windows 95 which was actually 4.0
then they returned to the numbering versions with windows 7 (which was actually 6.1, thanks microsoft)
(all of this not including weird dos based and nt stuff)

1 ) No security patches, hmm….
that could be quite concerning in real life…
But since this is scratch, yeah I think we SHOULD add it, but as really really minor update

Like:

x.x.x.X - really really tiny updates or bug fixes (semver is broken now)

2) Alright, should we remove the greek alphabet to like letters of the english alphabet? like:
1.0.0-a, 1.0.0-b, 1.0.0-c, and so on.

Reason: trust me br- Just to be unique
Yeah I think that is a bad idea..

3) We are following suit.

I gonna make a teaser trailer (cuz i'm bored and i should be studying for a exam hehehe)

1)
if its a really minor content update of course its not a security update
and please no x.x.x.X, 3 dots is already so many + yeah it completely breaks semver

2)
how about 1.0.0a, without the dash? ive seen a lot of people using loose semver do like this
and for 27th version it would just be 1.0.0aa, 1.0.0ab, …

3)
im even worse i have 7 days of school lel

so like, the first versions would be 0.1.0a, 0.1.0b, …, 0.1.0, 0.1.1a, …

Guys, I'm going to say something:

1) This forum post will be closed
2) Windows Codename Everest will be discontinued as I am making one Windows project solo. If you guys wanna revive this, inform me and I will join your revival project as an helper.
3) You CANNOT name the revival thing as 11.1 as I have taken it. Maybe try 13 or 2024?
4) I'm giving another chance to this as long as you give me 3 reasons why we need this collab and 3 reasons why do we not need it. This opportunity thing closes at 14 December, 5:00 PM Indian Time.

Edit 1: If you want, you can help me in my solo project. I would much appreciate it from you!

Stay fresh and moist! Peeps!

~ abcde26