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Avarage_twojin
Scratcher
3 posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

Hopefully someone talks about this!
alwayspaytaxes
Scratcher
500+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

Just because it has been 5 years since 3.0 doesn't mean we should have a 4.0

Huge releases like 2.0 and 3.0 involve rewriting the entirety of Scratch to move to something better/more secure, and so far, we haven't needed to do that
RobotChickens
Scratcher
500+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

The only reason there was a 3.0 is because the tech 2.0 was built on was ending browser support. Technicaly we are on ~3.11 ish (Don't quote me on that) but Scratch isn't like an OS where you get a new version every 4 years or so. Scratch 3 will be continually updated under the same name for a long time. (Until there is a huge overhaul of how the site needs to operate)
54387a
Scratcher
1000+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

Of course not because the forums, the profile pages, the view all sections, the 403 page, the 404 pages of the main website, My Stuff, account settings, and the 429 page still use ScratchR2 (the Scratch 2 interface).

Last edited by 54387a (Nov. 15, 2023 03:24:41)

subjectnamehere
Scratcher
1000+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

When something better than JavaScript comes along, which won't any happen time soon. Heck, Scratch 3.0 isn't even finished yet, so it wouldn't make any sense to start working on 4.0.
hydrofungus
Scratcher
1000+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

When ST feels like it.
Scratch doesn’t have a scheduled updates, they just release it whenever it’s done, and most updates is to make scratch better and more compatible with everyone, not introducing new features
mysinginmonsters
Scratcher
100+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

Exactly, scratch 3 has been around for 5 years. It's already grounded at this point and used for many things. There would be SO MUCH things in need of changing if scratch does a major update, which they have no reason to at this moment.

And even if they did update to 4.0, what will they even change? Don't expect any new blocks, because that's probably never happening. The only thing you could change at this point is the UI, which scratch could just update 3.0 if they felt like that.
106809nes
Scratcher
1000+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

4.0 hasn't been planned, nor is 3.0 finished. There are still some 2.0 pages e.g. MyStuff, Profile, Forums, and maybe some more that I don't know about.
among_us1w2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

kollin-angelos wrote:

RobotChickens wrote:

The only reason there was a 3.0 is because the tech 2.0 was built on was ending browser support.
That is false.
kinda true. you remember flash? running 2.0 on desktop now uses adobe air, an advanced desktop version of flash.
alwayspaytaxes
Scratcher
500+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

kollin-angelos wrote:

RobotChickens wrote:

The only reason there was a 3.0 is because the tech 2.0 was built on was ending browser support.
That is false.
Well, not completely false. Flash were solely killed because of various security holes that kept getting exploited. If it hadn't had so many security holes, it would probably stay alive to this day, and Scratch would only need a new redesign, not a whole update to how code is run, etc. (AS is a pretty fine language tbh)
z10r
Scratcher
100+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

We don't need a 4.0
I'm pretty sure the only reason we even needed a 3.0 was because Flash was dying.
Edit: forgot to read the replies. people already said this

Last edited by z10r (Nov. 15, 2023 16:40:42)

AngelTheIceWing
Scratcher
60 posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

Ask The Scratch Team. They May Know When 4.0 Will Come Out.
106809nes
Scratcher
1000+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

AngelTheIceWing wrote:

Ask The Scratch Team. They May Know When 4.0 Will Come Out.
4.0 isn't planned.
AngelTheIceWing
Scratcher
60 posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

yeah
GlitchyZorua
Scratcher
100+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

Never.
ImmortalJelly13
Scratcher
500+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

3.0 is still working fine and is up to date.
Why add 4.0 if its not needed?
subjectnamehere
Scratcher
1000+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

GlitchyZorua wrote:

(#16)
Never.
Not necessarily.
z10r
Scratcher
100+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

Ah, wait, I've got an answer.
When will Scratch 4.0 come out?
When HTML5, webpack, and all the other actively updated technologies powering Scratch 3.0 are deprecated.
alwayspaytaxes
Scratcher
500+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

z10r wrote:

Ah, wait, I've got an answer.
When will Scratch 4.0 come out?
When HTML5, webpack, and all the other actively updated technologies powering Scratch 3.0 are deprecated.
Webpack can be easily replaced by a different system, such as Vite, and HTML5 seems to be the final major version of HTML, as Wikipedia says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5
z10r
Scratcher
100+ posts

When will scratch 4.0 come out? I mean its almost been 5 years since update 3.0, and 11 years since 2.0! SHEEESH, we've come along way since 2007!

alwayspaytaxes wrote:

z10r wrote:

Ah, wait, I've got an answer.
When will Scratch 4.0 come out?
When HTML5, webpack, and all the other actively updated technologies powering Scratch 3.0 are deprecated.
Webpack can be easily replaced by a different system, such as Vite, and HTML5 seems to be the final major version of HTML, as Wikipedia says: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5
My point is there will not be a 4.0 in a very long time

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