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Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

106809nes wrote:

why didnt it load my message
Sorry! I'm still unsure what exactly a necro-post is. Just from what I had searched, a necropost is usually a week, but depends on the topic.
A necropost is basically if the post is old and resolved, or otherwise rendered irrelevant. It's also usually an off-topic post.
whyshouldIgames
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

1CLICKINFO wrote:

AMG's 160 dB, Track 41 is same as Chord.wav but lower pitch
Nice find! Although we're primarily concerned with the music loops rather than the short sound effects, any finds are still cool
yo lets allow sound effects
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

whyshouldIgames wrote:

yo lets allow sound effects
Well it's not that they're disallowed or anything. But maybe we should start another thread to keep track of them? There's an awful lot of them and I don't want to add all of them to my list, lol.
donotforgetmycode
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

whyshouldIgames wrote:

yo lets allow sound effects
Well it's not that they're disallowed or anything. But maybe we should start another thread to keep track of them? There's an awful lot of them and I don't want to add all of them to my list, lol.
Does “Lose” count as a sound effect or a music loop? It's not in the “loops” category, but it sounds like one
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

donotforgetmycode wrote:

Does “Lose” count as a sound effect or a music loop? It's not in the “loops” category, but it sounds like one
I guess it's up to interpretation :shrug:
super_meerio
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Where do the music loops come from?

apple502j wrote:

This is the answer: https://github.com/LLK/scratch-gui/pull/3385
jhyrkdflgbhtygrfedghytt
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Where do the music loops come from?

super_meerio wrote:

apple502j wrote:

This is the answer: https://github.com/LLK/scratch-gui/pull/3385
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1CLICKINFO
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Where do the music loops come from?

whyshouldIgames wrote:

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

1CLICKINFO wrote:

AMG's 160 dB, Track 41 is same as Chord.wav but lower pitch
Nice find! Although we're primarily concerned with the music loops rather than the short sound effects, any finds are still cool
yo lets allow sound effects
I don't know the song it came from yet, but we know that scratch sourced it from AMG.

For example, the sound after the one after chord came from “Why I Came To California” by Leon Ware
1CLICKINFO
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

Crispydogs101 wrote:

To be fair if you look in the description it actually says it's from 2018. And with the fact scratch 3.0 came in 2019 a year later gives proof it might of been from this.
I'm still skeptical, personally, so I'm not going to add it to my “officially sourced” list. The description could potentially have been faked and Scratch tends to source their various songs from quite diverse sources from what I've seen, it just strikes me as fishy that they would just happen to take all of their dance loops from one song, and at that, a song that doesn't even sound like a congruous song but rather a bunch of loops stitched together

It is also a mono, low-quality sounding song too, meaning it is sourced from scratch. The answer is that the loops were taken from the from scratch 2.0 and then put into 1 song. Sometimes youtube gets the wrong date but it's usually a newer date then it actually been released, not the other way.

the first long line is from Fun_Cupcake_i81, and it should be quoted, but scratch forums isn't working properly

Last edited by 1CLICKINFO (Nov. 2, 2023 16:25:24)

pitobayola
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24 posts

Where do the music loops come from?

little late but i found some more im not sure if you have found yet, heres the list

dance around, dance slow mo, dance funky, dance chill, dance celebration, dance magic, dance space, dance snare beat = dance by androit

drum funky = Bedazzled by captain funk foot (or just the full song uses the same sample)

drum satellite = star train by chill carrier

jungle = Intro Superllanero by horacero

Last edited by pitobayola (Dec. 1, 2023 01:34:23)

pitobayola
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Where do the music loops come from?

also worth noting some of the loops are impossible or just difficult to find via shazam because a youtube channel uploads videos of the loops playing back to back and the channel is listed as a music channel
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

pitobayola wrote:

little late but i found some more im not sure if you have found yet, heres the list

dance around, dance slow mo, dance funky, dance chill, dance celebration, dance magic, dance space, dance snare beat = dance by androit
Please read what was posted above. We think it's much more likely that Androit got the loops from Scratch than the other way around.

drum funky = Bedazzled by captain funk foot (or just the full song uses the same sample)
This does seem like a match! I'll add it on my list!

drum satellite = star train by chill carrier
Okay, I can definitely see the resemblance here, but after listening to the whole song I wasn't able to find any segment that matched exactly with the Scratch sound. For now I'll put it as a “very similar” match like I did with Underwater Trance/MyLove/Medieval2.

jungle = Intro Superllanero by horacero
Yep, this sounds like another exact match!! Although an interesting complication is that Scratch 1.x’s metadata lists the artist as “Samplenet”, which sounds like the name of a website music samples might go on, but after some googling that doesn't seem to be the case.
Anyway, nice finds!!

EDIT: Okay, the list is updated! (It's at the top of page 2 btw.)

Last edited by Fun_Cupcake_i81 (Dec. 1, 2023 02:05:30)

1CLICKINFO
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

pitobayola wrote:

drum satellite = star train by chill carrier
Okay, I can see the resemblance here, but after listening to the whole song I couldn't find any segment that matched exactly with the Scratch sound. For now, I'll put it as a “very similar” match just like I did with Underwater Trance/MyLove/Medieval2.

I analyzed using the spectrogram using Audacity, and they do match up. It seems like Star Train and Drum Satellite share the same sample, but Star Train isn't the source of the sample.

Relax

Last edited by 1CLICKINFO (Dec. 1, 2023 02:31:35)

Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

1CLICKINFO wrote:

I analyzed using the spectrogram using Audacity, and they do match up. It seems like Star Train and Drum Satellite share the same sample, but Star Train isn't the source of the sample.

Relax
Smart! For some reason freesound isn't working right now so I can't listen to the sound but I'll try again later. (I gtg rn)
pitobayola
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Where do the music loops come from?

Fun_Cupcake_i81 wrote:

pitobayola wrote:

little late but i found some more im not sure if you have found yet, heres the list

dance around, dance slow mo, dance funky, dance chill, dance celebration, dance magic, dance space, dance snare beat = dance by androit
Please read what was posted above. We think it's much more likely that Androit got the loops from Scratch than the other way around.

ah sorry, actually on second look thats definitely the case, the description says it was released in 2018, long after scratch added those loops, big mistake on my part

Last edited by pitobayola (Dec. 1, 2023 03:10:22)

pitobayola
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Where do the music loops come from?

also might have found another possible source/ shared sample, not 100 percent sure though, it sounds really similar to the start of the song but never really matches up 100 percent, at least not that i can tell

drive around = tears and joy by campaus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9vPftMAxEY&ab_channel=markku51

Last edited by pitobayola (Dec. 1, 2023 03:15:44)

-carlos-n
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Where do the music loops come from?

the link for the music “chill” does not work
Fun_Cupcake_i81
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Where do the music loops come from?

-carlos-n wrote:

the link for the music “chill” does not work
Try this.
HurricaneMitch1998M
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Where do the music loops come from?

09878901234321 wrote:

Creator Beau Silver has yet to reply to the email I sent over 2 months ago. I haven't found anything about him in recent years whatsoever.
Maybe he died
1CLICKINFO
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Where do the music loops come from?

HurricaneMitch1998M wrote:

09878901234321 wrote:

Creator Beau Silver has yet to reply to the email I sent over 2 months ago. I haven't found anything about him in recent years whatsoever.
Maybe he died
His page is still actively maintained

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