HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

I… what was that? Was that supposed to be satisfying? And why did they put the Anakin thing at the end? What was the point?

Anything you don't get I can explain to you if you'd like.

It’s just the episode was so anticlimactic. Nothing really happened in the show. And the Anakin thing at the end was just pointless. Hera did nothing throughout the whole show.

OH BUT WHEN MANDO SEASON 3 DOES NOTHING ITS OKAY

That season was the worst one but it still had enjoyable moments such as the final fight scenes.

No, the Jack Black episode and the Convert were the only good episodes.

That's pretty accurate.
Gotta say, I thought the B2 Battle Droid running was weird though…

Codey9 wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

I… what was that? Was that supposed to be satisfying? And why did they put the Anakin thing at the end? What was the point?

Anything you don't get I can explain to you if you'd like.

It’s just the episode was so anticlimactic. Nothing really happened in the show. And the Anakin thing at the end was just pointless. Hera did nothing throughout the whole show.

OH BUT WHEN MANDO SEASON 3 DOES NOTHING ITS OKAY

That season was the worst one but it still had enjoyable moments such as the final fight scenes.

No, the Jack Black episode and the Convert were the only good episodes.

That's pretty accurate.
Gotta say, I thought the B2 Battle Droid running was weird though…

I'm not even sure if the Jack Black episode was good, all I know is that it was fun.

And also that it raised some weird implications about droids.

HexagonWorld wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

I… what was that? Was that supposed to be satisfying? And why did they put the Anakin thing at the end? What was the point?

Anything you don't get I can explain to you if you'd like.

It’s just the episode was so anticlimactic. Nothing really happened in the show. And the Anakin thing at the end was just pointless. Hera did nothing throughout the whole show.

OH BUT WHEN MANDO SEASON 3 DOES NOTHING ITS OKAY

That season was the worst one but it still had enjoyable moments such as the final fight scenes.

No, the Jack Black episode and the Convert were the only good episodes.

That's pretty accurate.
Gotta say, I thought the B2 Battle Droid running was weird though…

I'm not even sure if the Jack Black episode was good, all I know is that it was fun.

And also that it raised some weird implications about droids.

Yeah I agree with that lol.

What implications about droids?

Codey9 wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

I… what was that? Was that supposed to be satisfying? And why did they put the Anakin thing at the end? What was the point?

Anything you don't get I can explain to you if you'd like.

It’s just the episode was so anticlimactic. Nothing really happened in the show. And the Anakin thing at the end was just pointless. Hera did nothing throughout the whole show.

OH BUT WHEN MANDO SEASON 3 DOES NOTHING ITS OKAY

That season was the worst one but it still had enjoyable moments such as the final fight scenes.

No, the Jack Black episode and the Convert were the only good episodes.

That's pretty accurate.
Gotta say, I thought the B2 Battle Droid running was weird though…

I'm not even sure if the Jack Black episode was good, all I know is that it was fun.

And also that it raised some weird implications about droids.

Yeah I agree with that lol.

What implications about droids?

Just the same implications Star Wars has always had but… more.

HexagonWorld wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

HexagonWorld wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

I… what was that? Was that supposed to be satisfying? And why did they put the Anakin thing at the end? What was the point?

Anything you don't get I can explain to you if you'd like.

It’s just the episode was so anticlimactic. Nothing really happened in the show. And the Anakin thing at the end was just pointless. Hera did nothing throughout the whole show.

OH BUT WHEN MANDO SEASON 3 DOES NOTHING ITS OKAY

That season was the worst one but it still had enjoyable moments such as the final fight scenes.

No, the Jack Black episode and the Convert were the only good episodes.

That's pretty accurate.
Gotta say, I thought the B2 Battle Droid running was weird though…

I'm not even sure if the Jack Black episode was good, all I know is that it was fun.

And also that it raised some weird implications about droids.

Yeah I agree with that lol.

What implications about droids?

Just the same implications Star Wars has always had but… more.

It's been like that since Clone Wars really, you'd be surprised at how much personality and character all of the droids have in that.
Droids are classified as beings in Star Wars pretty much. Ahsoka and Anakin have some of the highest kill counts in the entire franchise just because of how many droids they slaughtered.

NO I WATCHED TOO MANY AHSOKA CRITIQUES AND NOW MY ENTIRE YOUTUBE FEED IS PEOPLE SAYING THE SAME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SHOW FOR 40 MINUTES

Codey9 wrote:

NO I WATCHED TOO MANY AHSOKA CRITIQUES AND NOW MY ENTIRE YOUTUBE FEED IS PEOPLE SAYING THE SAME COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SHOW FOR 40 MINUTES

I have taken to destroying the internet people talking about Ahsoka. None of them have been able to beat me yet.

Blank insults. They wanted to dislike this show from the beginning.

AwesomeUser23 wrote:

Reporting this to be closed because it’s just a duplicate of this one: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/153548/?page=71

I think this should stay open because it seems that in the other forum they're not discussing spoilers. This forum allows the discussion of spoilers and people should have the option of whether or not they want to discuss or avoid spoilers.

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

I… what was that? Was that supposed to be satisfying? And why did they put the Anakin thing at the end? What was the point?

Codey9 wrote:

For everyone's info I'm not saying Ahsoka is the holy grail of sci-fi or anything, I'm just saying people are seriously complaining about the wrong things. It's like everyone who watched the show was determined to dislike it, but none of them are targeting the actual major flaws with it.

I'm kinda torn on the last two episodes. Imo episodes 1-6 of Ahsoka were phenomenal, but the last two imo brought the show from a solid 9/10 to like a 6-7/10. There are a couple things I liked about episodes 7 and 8, I liked the way they portrayed Thrawn and I thought Eman Esfandi's portrayal of Ezra was perfect. Also the ending scene with Anakins force ghost was beautifully done. It's kind of a cheap trick but hey, they got me.

I think most of my issues primarily stems from two things:

1) 8 episodes in a season is simply not enough. I think it should have been like 10, maybe 12 episodes. Theres just so much more that could have (and should have) been unpacked, and it kind of feels weird to save it for a second season at this stage. It sorta felt like the final two episodes were rushed, and many important things were simply glossed over.

2) Despite the finale being out for a couple days, they STILL haven't yet greenlit season 2 (presumably because of the actors strike). I would feel a lot better about the season ending on a cliffhanger if we were GUARANTEED a second season. The fact that right now, it doesn't feel guaranteed leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The worst thing a show can do is leave you feeling blue balled.

I will talk more about the episodes themselves when I get my thoughts fully organized.

LuigiFan5204 wrote:

AU-Ratcatcher wrote:

I… what was that? Was that supposed to be satisfying? And why did they put the Anakin thing at the end? What was the point?

Codey9 wrote:

For everyone's info I'm not saying Ahsoka is the holy grail of sci-fi or anything, I'm just saying people are seriously complaining about the wrong things. It's like everyone who watched the show was determined to dislike it, but none of them are targeting the actual major flaws with it.

I'm kinda torn on the last two episodes. Imo episodes 1-6 of Ahsoka were phenomenal, but the last two imo brought the show from a solid 9/10 to like a 6-7/10. There are a couple things I liked about episodes 7 and 8, I liked the way they portrayed Thrawn and I thought Eman Esfandi's portrayal of Ezra was perfect. Also the ending scene with Anakins force ghost was beautifully done. It's kind of a cheap trick but hey, they got me.

I think most of my issues primarily stems from two things:

1) 8 episodes in a season is simply not enough. I think it should have been like 10, maybe 12 episodes. Theres just so much more that could have (and should have) been unpacked, and it kind of feels weird to save it for a second season at this stage. It sorta felt like the final two episodes were rushed, and many important things were simply glossed over.

2) Despite the finale being out for a couple days, they STILL haven't yet greenlit season 2 (presumably because of the actors strike). I would feel a lot better about the season ending on a cliffhanger if we were GUARANTEED a second season. The fact that right now, it doesn't feel guaranteed leaves a sour taste in my mouth. The worst thing a show can do is leave you feeling blue balled.

I will talk more about the episodes themselves when I get my thoughts fully organized.

I do agree, I've definitely got complaints about the ending (spoilers coming up)

I feel the finale set up a bunch of future stuff but didn't resolve much. There was too much plot armor (although what's to be expected). Ahsoka's story arc kinda concluding was good, but I don't know why Sabine had to follow her. And idk what I think about Sabine using the force.
Thrawn's escape could've been more epic, and Ahsoka and Sabine just did not seem like they cared as much as they should've. I agree that there were too little episodes. I get the feeling that if this show was animated and had like, 14 episodes that were each 20-minutes, then it would've been 3x better.
I also wish we could've seen the hug between Ezra and Hera at the end.

That being said, I loved Baylan's final scene, and I'm seriously wondering what it is he was looking for.

I also feel like I would love this show so much more if the stupid sequels didn't exist, because we all know where everything ends up heading, and there's not much theorizing to be done. Sometimes I wish I could be a writer for Star Wars…

7-8 out of 10 series. Lowest points were 6/10, highest points were 9/10.

I'm really happy Hayden Christensen has gotten a chance to come back as Anakin after more than a decade (although I still hate the Obi-Wan show).

Codey9 wrote:

I do agree, I've definitely got complaints about the ending (spoilers coming up)

I feel the finale set up a bunch of future stuff but didn't resolve much. There was too much plot armor (although what's to be expected). Ahsoka's story arc kinda concluding was good, but I don't know why Sabine had to follow her. And idk what I think about Sabine using the force.
Thrawn's escape could've been more epic, and Ahsoka and Sabine just did not seem like they cared as much as they should've. I agree that there were too little episodes. I get the feeling that if this show was animated and had like, 14 episodes that were each 20-minutes, then it would've been 3x better.
I also wish we could've seen the hug between Ezra and Hera at the end.

That being said, I loved Baylan's final scene, and I'm seriously wondering what it is he was looking for.

I also feel like I would love this show so much more if the stupid sequels didn't exist, because we all know where everything ends up heading, and there's not much theorizing to be done. Sometimes I wish I could be a writer for Star Wars…

7-8 out of 10 series. Lowest points were 6/10, highest points were 9/10.

Yeah. I'm really not a huge fan of the show ending with Sabine and Ahsoka stranded.

I've been conflicted about this topic but I think I'm okay with Sabine being force sensitive. There are a couple scenes in Rebels that hint towards it and she also could be related to Tarre Vizsla, who was a Mandalorian Jedi from way back, and I remember clan Wren being related to house Vizsla.

However I'm not a fan of the execution. I thought it was kind of lame how shes able to throw Ezra all the way to the ship after finally being able to pick up her lightsaber with the force. It's like a switch that got flipped or something, rather than her putting the effort and dedication to get to that point. Imo its almost as bad as Rey beating Kylo in TFA. Personally I think it would have been better if the show started with Sabine being somewhat better at using the force, given she already trained with Ahsoka in the past, but I digress.

I completely agree with that Ezra and Hera thing, the fact that their reunion was cut short was really annoying and also highlights a much larger issue in the last 2 episodes. It doesn't feel like there are enough “moments” between the Rebels characters. For example, the reunion between Ezra and Sabine was kind of underwhelming. She spent the whole series pinning for him and literally almost jeopardized the fate of her galaxy just to see him, and when they finally reunite they're just like “hey, wassup” and not much else. They just go back to their usual back and forth stuff like usual and act like it hasn't been 10 years since they've seen each other. It just doesn't feel right.

LuigiFan5204 wrote:

Codey9 wrote:

I do agree, I've definitely got complaints about the ending (spoilers coming up)

I feel the finale set up a bunch of future stuff but didn't resolve much. There was too much plot armor (although what's to be expected). Ahsoka's story arc kinda concluding was good, but I don't know why Sabine had to follow her. And idk what I think about Sabine using the force.
Thrawn's escape could've been more epic, and Ahsoka and Sabine just did not seem like they cared as much as they should've. I agree that there were too little episodes. I get the feeling that if this show was animated and had like, 14 episodes that were each 20-minutes, then it would've been 3x better.
I also wish we could've seen the hug between Ezra and Hera at the end.

That being said, I loved Baylan's final scene, and I'm seriously wondering what it is he was looking for.

I also feel like I would love this show so much more if the stupid sequels didn't exist, because we all know where everything ends up heading, and there's not much theorizing to be done. Sometimes I wish I could be a writer for Star Wars…

7-8 out of 10 series. Lowest points were 6/10, highest points were 9/10.

Yeah. I'm really not a huge fan of the show ending with Sabine and Ahsoka stranded.

I've been conflicted about this topic but I think I'm okay with Sabine being force sensitive. There are a couple scenes in Rebels that hint towards it and she also could be related to Tarre Vizsla, who was a Mandalorian Jedi from way back, and I remember clan Wren being related to house Vizsla.

However I'm not a fan of the execution. I thought it was kind of lame how shes able to throw Ezra all the way to the ship after finally being able to pick up her lightsaber with the force. It's like a switch that got flipped or something, rather than her putting the effort and dedication to get to that point. Imo its almost as bad as Rey beating Kylo in TFA. Personally I think it would have been better if the show started with Sabine being somewhat better at using the force, given she already trained with Ahsoka in the past, but I digress.

I completely agree with that Ezra and Hera thing, the fact that their reunion was cut short was really annoying and also highlights a much larger issue in the last 2 episodes. It doesn't feel like there are enough “moments” between the Rebels characters. For example, the reunion between Ezra and Sabine was kind of underwhelming. She spent the whole series pinning for him and literally almost jeopardized the fate of her galaxy just to see him, and when they finally reunite they're just like “hey, wassup” and not much else. They just go back to their usual back and forth stuff like usual and act like it hasn't been 10 years since they've seen each other. It just doesn't feel right.

Yeah, I'm pretty fine with her using the force. Doesn't seem like the perfect way to take her character after Rebels, but it's okay. It did feel rushed there at the end, though. The explanation, of course, is that they knew that there wasn't going to be a second season for a long while after Ray Stevenson's death and everything, so they kinda just wanted to conclude that arc and get it over with.

In universe, I think a good explanation is simply that Peridea has an extremely strong connection to the force, which would explain how Sabine wasn't able to use the force at all before arriving there.

It didn't bother me as much as the Rey vs Kylo scene, although actually I guess that scene was actually somewhat fixed by the Rise of Skywalker making Rey a Palpatine; even though that opens up a whole new world of plot contrivances.

Apparently there was a lot of cut scenes, some CW flashback scenes and scenes with Ezra and Sabine. Apparently we were supposed to get an answer about what happened between Ezra and Thrawn after they arrived to Peridia. These are just rumors though.

Why are people complaining about Thrawn so much smh

Codey9 wrote:

Why are people complaining about Thrawn so much smh

Yeah I personally thought Thrawn was the one thing they got completely right and have zero complaints about

LuigiFan5204 wrote:

I completely agree with that Ezra and Hera thing, the fact that their reunion was cut short was really annoying and also highlights a much larger issue in the last 2 episodes. It doesn't feel like there are enough “moments” between the Rebels characters. For example, the reunion between Ezra and Sabine was kind of underwhelming. She spent the whole series pinning for him and literally almost jeopardized the fate of her galaxy just to see him, and when they finally reunite they're just like “hey, wassup” and not much else. They just go back to their usual back and forth stuff like usual and act like it hasn't been 10 years since they've seen each other. It just doesn't feel right.

Yeah, the Rebels characters (mainly Sabine and Ezra) ended up feeling like generic sidekick characters who just got a lot of screen time. They were treated so much like that that they even got the same treatment that side characters usually get with their motivations, where all of their emotional connections and desires became side-lined and shallow so that Ahsoka could shine more and seem like a powerful main character. But by the end of the show, Sabine and Ezra end up becoming very side-lined and pretty much just follow Ahsoka along as she progresses through the plot. You could've removed Ezra and Sabine from the finale entirely and it still could've worked with only minor changes.

Sabine is important in the first 6 episodes of the show, but as soon as Ahsoka arrives on Peridea Sabine is reduced to a generic side-character whose entire development in the show is rushed through in a 2-minute scene. And then Ezra and Hera's reunion gets cut short so we can see Ahsoka seeing Morai and Anakin. I think this was done as to not confuse people watching the show who never watched Rebels, but in doing this it ends up feeling underwhelming to the Rebels fans.

Hera and Jacen and Chopper were great imo though. By the end of the show I got a lot more used to live-action Hera and actually quite like her by this point. I will also say that the fan service was done well in this show, which is a rarity nowadays.

Ranking all of the live-action Star Wars TV show seasons:

1. Andor Season 1, 10/10 (One of my favorite pieces of Star Wars content ever)
2. The Mandalorian Season 1, 9/10 (Excellent first season, if only the show continued being this good…)
3. Ahsoka Season 1/The Mandalorian Season 2, 7-8/10 (Both are pretty good, but I don't know which one I think is better. I'll have to rewatch Mando Season 2 again)
4. The Mandalorian Season 3/Book of Boba Fett Season 1, 4-5/10 (Each had one great episode, one or two okay ones, and the rest were just bad, with some being a lot worse than others)
5. Obi-Wan Kenobi, 3/10 (Complete garbage show that is as bad as the sequels)

Codey9 wrote:

LuigiFan5204 wrote:

I completely agree with that Ezra and Hera thing, the fact that their reunion was cut short was really annoying and also highlights a much larger issue in the last 2 episodes. It doesn't feel like there are enough “moments” between the Rebels characters. For example, the reunion between Ezra and Sabine was kind of underwhelming. She spent the whole series pinning for him and literally almost jeopardized the fate of her galaxy just to see him, and when they finally reunite they're just like “hey, wassup” and not much else. They just go back to their usual back and forth stuff like usual and act like it hasn't been 10 years since they've seen each other. It just doesn't feel right.

Yeah, the Rebels characters (mainly Sabine and Ezra) ended up feeling like generic sidekick characters who just got a lot of screen time. They were treated so much like that that they even got the same treatment that side characters usually get with their motivations, where all of their emotional connections and desires became side-lined and shallow so that Ahsoka could shine more and seem like a powerful main character. But by the end of the show, Sabine and Ezra end up becoming very side-lined and pretty much just follow Ahsoka along as she progresses through the plot. You could've removed Ezra and Sabine from the finale entirely and it still could've worked with only minor changes.

Sabine is important in the first 6 episodes of the show, but as soon as Ahsoka arrives on Peridea Sabine is reduced to a generic side-character whose entire development in the show is rushed through in a 2-minute scene. And then Ezra and Hera's reunion gets cut short so we can see Ahsoka seeing Morai and Anakin. I think this was done as to not confuse people watching the show who never watched Rebels, but in doing this it ends up feeling underwhelming to the Rebels fans.

Hera and Jacen and Chopper were great imo though. By the end of the show I got a lot more used to live-action Hera and actually quite like her by this point. I will also say that the fan service was done well in this show, which is a rarity nowadays.

I really hope the strikes end soon and season 2 gets announced, it would alleviate most of my concerns. I mean most of the things that felt unsatisfying about the end of season 1 could easily be resolved in a second season.

Codey9 wrote:

Ranking all of the live-action Star Wars TV show seasons:

1. Andor Season 1, 10/10 (One of my favorite pieces of Star Wars content ever)
2. The Mandalorian Season 1, 9/10 (Excellent first season, if only the show continued being this good…)
3. Ahsoka Season 1/The Mandalorian Season 2, 7-8/10 (Both are pretty good, but I don't know which one I think is better. I'll have to rewatch Mando Season 2 again)
4. The Mandalorian Season 3/Book of Boba Fett Season 1, 4-5/10 (Each had one great episode, one or two okay ones, and the rest were just bad, with some being a lot worse than others)
5. Obi-Wan Kenobi, 3/10 (Complete garbage show that is as bad as the sequels)

Mine would be:

1. Andor S1
2. Mandalorian S1 & 2
3. Ahsoka S1
4. Mandalorian S3
5. Book of Boba Fett
6. Obi Wan Kenobi

Andor was very well written, no need to say more. Mando 1 & 2 were very good, the second season finale wrapped up the entire first two seasons flawlessly. I would've really liked to put Ahsoka higher but it kind of fumbled in the last two episodes for me, but still a solid show. I don't hate Mando 3, I like a lot of the episodes but it felt like it was going in weird directions and imo is the weakest season so far. BOBF was mid and totally disrespected Boba Fett by sidelining him in favor of making the show Mando season 2.5. I don't need to say anything about OWK other than its an absolute show.