Youtube Dumping Flash. It's Time for the ST to Work on HTML5 Again

Thepuzzlegame

I agree that flash is becoming more and more obsolete and it would be nice to see an HTML5 player for Scratch instead. So support!

MegaApuTurkUltra wrote:
In the meantime, I might try hacking together an html5 editor using phosphorus, jszip, and scratchblocks2…

I would love to see that!

QuillzToxic

Meany schools also don't have flash, mainly because of security and flash is a pain to install because of a custom installer that does not have an MSI extension…

LionsStair

I completely agree, Google is becoming more independent and wants to improve its “looks” by only using HTML5 player, so ST we would ALL love to have you help us!

Support!

iTweak0r

Deerleg wrote:
It's a good idea, but what about those of us who won't be getting HTML 5 anytime soon? Then we won't be able to use Scratch.

You don't get HTML5.

It's part of all modern web browsers.

AonymousGuy

QuillzToxic wrote:
Meany schools also don't have flash, mainly because of security and flash is a pain to install because of a custom installer that does not have an MSI extension…

Chrome has a version of Flash and can be installed without admin permissions.

But yes, I do support - and maybe for compatibility's sake a way to change back to the Flash player?

One thing - HTML5 has no good way to constantly detect mouse position (as far as I can tell) without lag, so someone may have to find a way around that.

SuperdoggyJr

AonymousGuy wrote:
QuillzToxic wrote:
Meany schools also don't have flash, mainly because of security and flash is a pain to install because of a custom installer that does not have an MSI extension…
Chrome has a version of Flash and can be installed without admin permissions.

But yes, I do support - and maybe for compatibility's sake a way to change back to the Flash player?

One thing - HTML5 has no good way to constantly detect mouse position (as far as I can tell) without lag, so someone may have to find a way around that.

Is that so? Seems phosphorus did it fairly well / efficiently…

http://phosphorus.github.io/#45782534

MegaApuTurkUltra

AonymousGuy wrote:
QuillzToxic wrote:
Meany schools also don't have flash, mainly because of security and flash is a pain to install because of a custom installer that does not have an MSI extension…
Chrome has a version of Flash and can be installed without admin permissions.

But yes, I do support - and maybe for compatibility's sake a way to change back to the Flash player?

One thing - HTML5 has no good way to constantly detect mouse position (as far as I can tell) without lag, so someone may have to find a way around that.

var mx = 0, my = 0;
$(document).on("mousemove", function(e){
    mx = e.clientX;
    my = e.clientY;
});
$(document).on("touchdrag", function(e){
    mx = e.originalEvent.touches[0].touchX; // or some other hacks I forgot how exactly to do this
    my = e.originalEvent.touches[0].touchY;
});

epicRedHot

I support.

navysmeagol_175

cheeseeater wrote:
Firefox on my laptop plays HTML5 videos horribly.

thats firefoxes fault

Jonathan50

Full support.

Scratcher1002

Deerleg wrote:
It's a good idea, but what about those of us who won't be getting HTML 5 anytime soon? Then we won't be able to use Scratch.

HTML5 is built into the browser. HTML5 is a newer version of what Chrome, Opera, IE, Firefox, etc. use to display websites such as Scratch and YouTube.

Jonathan50

Deerleg wrote:
It's a good idea, but what about those of us who won't be getting HTML 5 anytime soon? Then we won't be able to use Scratch.

Erm…
no.
It's 2015, and you can't still be running Windows 2k.
rural schools…

CatsUnited

Jonathan50 wrote:
Deerleg wrote:
It's a good idea, but what about those of us who won't be getting HTML 5 anytime soon? Then we won't be able to use Scratch.
Erm…
no.
It's 2015, and you can't still be running Windows 2k.
rural schools…

Some businesses still use wayyyyyyyyy older computers.

Anyway, I agree that the ST needs to get back to working on the HTML5 player (and hopefully editor). Most people in my classroom still play Flash games (with the exception of agario), so it isn't exactly obsolete yet, but it's quickly coming.

Jonathan50

CatsUnited wrote:
Jonathan50 wrote:
Deerleg wrote:
It's a good idea, but what about those of us who won't be getting HTML 5 anytime soon? Then we won't be able to use Scratch.
Erm…
no.
It's 2015, and you can't still be running Windows 2k.
rural schools…
Some businesses still use wayyyyyyyyy older computers.

Anyway, I agree that the ST needs to get back to working on the HTML5 player (and hopefully editor). Most people in my classroom still play Flash games (with the exception of agario), so it isn't exactly obsolete yet, but it's quickly coming.

Ok
rural countries…

Last edited by Jonathan50 (Oct. 5, 2015 01:41:59)

DeadGoldFish123

Good Idea, ST start working on it

SaltyEggplant

Support. The newest version of Firefox disables Flash by default too, and while I've got it back to view Scratch projects, it crashes all the time. I only keep Flash for Scratch and it's kind of obsolete.
Kind of a shame when the 2.0 editor and the project player is based on Flash

3sal2

After the “removed pixelblender” incident, I think we should have switched to HTML5 earlier.

Support.

gamebeater187

Zro716 wrote:
so how does youtube's decision to stream its videos through the HTML5 player have to do with Scratch projects???

HTML player has something to do with Scratch projects (ask somebody else what).

-Amaru-

No support. It would be a maintenance nightmare. And one of these nightmares that really scare.

CatsUnited

-Amaru- wrote:
No support. It would be a maintenance nightmare. And one of these nightmares that really scare.

1. In a different website , still hosted on the Scratch servers. Won't affect this site until the HTML5 player is ready (sometime this century).
2. Flash is quickly becoming obsolete.

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