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56-s
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Block VPNs on scratch

Marc92020-Tests wrote:

alright i got a mockup (im marc92020 btw im just on a different device)

if you think something about it should be change please tell me
Can you give me the host link please
SmileyFace6570
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Block VPNs on scratch

Maybe that happens when your IP address is blocked
BendyOl183
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SmileyFace6570 wrote:

Maybe that happens when your IP address is blocked

No, if you use a VPN it will connect you to another IP

They are meant to be used for privacy reasons, but a lot of people use them to bypass IP bans on online games or forum websites
SmileyFace6570
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BendyOl183 wrote:

SmileyFace6570 wrote:

Maybe that happens when your IP address is blocked

No, if you use a VPN it will connect you to another IP

They are meant to be used for privacy reasons, but a lot of people use them to bypass IP bans on online games or forum websites

Oh so VPNs are used for privacy reasons
-ElectronicArts-
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The st uses vpn.
56-s
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-ElectronicArts- wrote:

The st uses vpn.
No it’s blocking the IP part
56-s
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Block VPNs on scratch

ssvbxx2 wrote:

I don't support blocking VPNs entirely. Although blocking all VPNs would prevent IP-banned users from circumventing their ban, there's one huge issue: VPNs are also used for privacy, since they prevent websites and ISPs from tracking users. Blocking VPNs leaves privacy-focused users with two choices: disable their VPN to use Scratch (which leaves them vulnerable to unwanted tracking), or use a Scratch alternative that allows VPNs. A lot of VPN users would probably choose the latter.

I support it

Last edited by 56-s (July 23, 2023 11:02:57)

Zydrolic
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ssvbxx2 wrote:

(#22)
For all the reasons above, blocking VPNs from Scratch entirely would not end well. However, an approach that may stop ban evasion without all of the downsides explained above is blocking VPN users from creating accounts if they've previously used an IP address that has an active IP ban. This I would support, though it'd still take lots of work to figure out if an IP is a VPN.
You just reminded me.
For all the reasons above, blocking VPNs from Scratch entirely would not end well.
This is a true statement, blocking VPNs is inaffective because of Tor (If I remember how it works right) and mostly worthless. (Tor is a fork of Firefox from what I remember, basically making an IP hard as heck to trace back)
i_eat_coffee
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Elijah999999 wrote:

What does VPN stand for? Also, maybe the pop-up shouldn't use the acronym, since some people don't know what it means.
It would only show up to people using VPNs
-ElectronicArts-
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56-s wrote:

-ElectronicArts- wrote:

The st uses vpn.
No it’s blocking the IP part
What do you mean ip part? if scratch block an ip. everyone with shared ip or vpn will get blocked.
TeenySpoon
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Elijah999999 wrote:

What does VPN stand for? Also, maybe the pop-up shouldn't use the acronym, since some people don't know what it means.
It masks your IP address with a different one, so that it looks like it is coming from somewhere else.
TeenySpoon
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Support, but what would happen to the people who use VPN for legitimate safety reasons?
56-s
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TeenySpoon wrote:

Support, but what would happen to the people who use VPN for legitimate safety reasons?
https://snap.berkeley.edu/
TeenySpoon
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56-s wrote:

TeenySpoon wrote:

Support, but what would happen to the people who use VPN for legitimate safety reasons?
https://snap.berkeley.edu/
Are you suggesting that they should use Snap? Well okay then
56-s
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TeenySpoon wrote:

56-s wrote:

TeenySpoon wrote:

Support, but what would happen to the people who use VPN for legitimate safety reasons?
https://snap.berkeley.edu/
Are you suggesting that they should use Snap? Well okay then
Yes
Za-Chary
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ssvbxx2 wrote:

I don't support blocking VPNs entirely. Although blocking all VPNs would prevent IP-banned users from circumventing their ban, there's one huge issue: VPNs are also used for privacy, since they prevent websites and ISPs from tracking users. Blocking VPNs leaves privacy-focused users with two choices: disable their VPN to use Scratch (which leaves them vulnerable to unwanted tracking), or use a Scratch alternative that allows VPNs. A lot of VPN users would probably choose the latter.
I'm surprised more users aren't talking about this here. I don't use VPNs, but as soon as I read the suggestion, I thought, “There's got to be some legitimate reasons to use VPNs, right?” If there is anybody who uses VPNs for a legitimate reason, then this suggestion automatically excludes them from Scratch. Even though I don't know much about VPNs myself, a legitimate reason has to exist — I highly doubt that VPNs were created or intended for evading account blocks on websites.
56-s
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Za-Chary wrote:

ssvbxx2 wrote:

I don't support blocking VPNs entirely. Although blocking all VPNs would prevent IP-banned users from circumventing their ban, there's one huge issue: VPNs are also used for privacy, since they prevent websites and ISPs from tracking users. Blocking VPNs leaves privacy-focused users with two choices: disable their VPN to use Scratch (which leaves them vulnerable to unwanted tracking), or use a Scratch alternative that allows VPNs. A lot of VPN users would probably choose the latter.
I'm surprised more users aren't talking about this here. I don't use VPNs, but as soon as I read the suggestion, I thought, “There's got to be some legitimate reasons to use VPNs, right?” If there is anybody who uses VPNs for a legitimate reason, then this suggestion automatically excludes them from Scratch. Even though I don't know much about VPNs myself, a legitimate reason has to exist — I highly doubt that VPNs were created or intended for evading account blocks on websites.
Same here and this marks the end of the talk (Maybe)

Last edited by 56-s (July 23, 2023 13:45:02)

mumu245
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Tor exists.
Zydrolic
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mumu245 wrote:

Tor exists.
Thats what I was sayin
But really though Tor is also free
56-s
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Zydrolic wrote:

mumu245 wrote:

Tor exists.
Thats what I was sayin
But really though Tor is also free
It is back.

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