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HI_mation
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

couldent u change the color in the source code?i think u could ngl
WonderWolf3122
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

HI_mation wrote:

couldent u change the color in the source code?i think u could ngl
*Facepalms* Rlly?
HI_mation
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

couldent u change the color in the source code?i think u could ngl

WonderWolf3122 wrote:

HI_mation wrote:

couldent u change the color in the source code?i think u could ngl
*Facepalms* Rlly?
idk if its a imported bg for scratch
WonderWolf3122
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

HI_mation wrote:

couldent u change the color in the source code?i think u could ngl

WonderWolf3122 wrote:

HI_mation wrote:

couldent u change the color in the source code?i think u could ngl
*Facepalms* Rlly?
idk if its a imported bg for scratch
Does it work across multiple devices?
medians
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

HI_mation wrote:

couldent u change the color in the source code?i think u could ngl
scratchr2 is private though.
greentreebee
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

sonic__fan wrote:

WallydogChoppychop wrote:

Support
but i think the scratch team are adding different colors for people with different color blind things
Source?

WallydogChoppychop wrote:

Why did this suddenly die?
It didn't?

i think he means why it slowed down the comment before mine was seven in the morning
IncognitoOrange
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

People, please, this is getting out of hand.

This forum has nothing to do with the color purple, or the update. Whether or not it was a good change is controversial, but the point is that it's not related.

The option to be able to change the color would genuinely help a lot of people, myself included. But instead of trying to add on to the suggestion people keep talking about Scratch being purple, there are other forum to discuss this

I really don't want this forum to be taken down just because a few people want to complain. Instead, we need to focus on how the update would work and how to make Scratch more inclusive for everyone.

So if you're here just to complain then just, like. Don't. Go do it somewhere else.
The_Game_
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

I reckon you should add (Don't complain about purple here, please) or something similar into the title.
among_us1w2
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

i know this sounds very random, but what does a colorblind person see when they see purple?
-ElectronicArts-
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

among_us1w2 wrote:

i know this sounds very random, but what does a colorblind person see when they see purple?
grey.
WonderWolf3122
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

-ElectronicArts- wrote:

among_us1w2 wrote:

i know this sounds very random, but what does a colorblind person see when they see purple?
grey.


Oh! That makes sense! And nice forum signature! XD
medians
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

among_us1w2 wrote:

i know this sounds very random, but what does a colorblind person see when they see purple?
Grey, blue, some other stuff.
mumu245
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

Let's end this discussion about hexcodes.

In the grand scheme of things, this doesn't matter. A standard hex code (6 hex digits) is an RGB value. Represented as a number, it takes up 3 bytes. If we have 111 878 190 users (at the time of writing), this equates to 335 634 570 B, or 335 MB.

Now let's compare this.

Let's say only 10% of all users set a custom profile picture. (I bet more than 10% have set one, but whatever.) That means 11 187 819 custom profile pictures that need to be stored. Let's assume they have an average size of around 75 KB (75 000 B) (again, a pretty small value). Using the best calculator in the world, python, these profile pictures would take up about 839 086 425 000 B, or *drumroll* 839 GB!

And that either isn't that big. I know people who have 1 TB (1000 GB) of storage, on their computers (and some even on their PHONES!) Imagine storing all Scratch profile pictures on your PHONE! And remember, Scratch is funded by Google.

In case you don't have any basic computer knowledge, 839 GB is 2500 TIMES LARGER than 335 MB.

Still not convinced this is a good idea?

(BTW, they recently started refactoring the website code a bit, to use easily changeable CSS variables for colours, AFAIK)

Here is a size comparison for your enjoyment:
  • Hexcode: 3 B
  • About Me: 200 B
  • Average block in a project: 250 B
  • Comment: 500 B
  • Studio or project notes: 2000 B (2 KB)
  • Small PFP: 35 000 B (35 KB)
  • Forum post: 200 000 B (200 KB)
  • Max PFP: 500 000 B (500 KB)
  • 3.5" floppy disk: 1 440 000 B (1440 KB)
  • Average project: 5 000 000 B (5 MB)
  • Max project asset size: 10 000 000 B (10 MB)
  • Max 2.0 project: 50 000 000 B (50 MB)
  • The Scratch editor: 360 000 000 B (360 MB)
  • CD: 700 000 000 B (700 MB)
  • DVD: 4 700 000 000 B (4.7 GB)
  • Theoretical Scratch 3.0 project size limit: 708 000 000 000 B (708 GB, please don't try this at home)

Last edited by mumu245 (July 11, 2023 13:26:56)

cwkbenjamin5728
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

FULL SUPPORT on my part as long as one of the given selections is the OG scratch blue…
IncognitoOrange
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

scratchcode1_2_3 wrote:

ToastersUnited wrote:

(#1116)
-snip-
way more, if storing just 1 byte per person is already a gb, think about the images in studios and profiles that scratch hosts themselves. also all the data for the projects
Yeah, so adding hex codes to the additional data shouldn't be a problem. Also read these:

ChatGPT wrote:

Adding a few hex codes for customizable website colors for each user is unlikely to be a significant problem for servers in terms of storage space. While the statistics you provided show a large number of projects, users, comments, and other data, the additional storage required for a few hex codes per user is relatively small.

Hex codes are typically represented by six characters, representing RGB values. Assuming each hex code requires an average of 6 bytes of storage, the storage required for customizable website colors can be estimated.

Let's consider an example:
If there are 111,846,665 registered users, and each user has a customizable color, the total storage required would be:

111,846,665 users * 6 bytes = 671,079,990 bytes or approximately 671 MB

This is a relatively small amount of storage considering the current capabilities of servers. Additionally, modern server infrastructure is designed to handle large amounts of data and can scale accordingly to accommodate increasing storage requirements.

It's important to note that this estimate assumes only the storage space required for hex codes. Other user data, such as profile pictures, usernames, and project information, will contribute to the overall storage requirements. However, considering the given statistics, adding hex codes for customizable colors is unlikely to pose a significant storage challenge for the servers.

and Bing too:

Bing wrote:

It’s understandable to be concerned about server space. However, adding a few hex codes for each user for customizable website colors should not be a problem for the servers. Hex codes are just a string of characters that represent a color, and each character takes up very little space. So even with a large number of users, the additional space required to store these hex codes would be relatively small compared to other data such as images or text. Is there anything else you would like to know?
extremely good points
cwkbenjamin5728
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

among_us1w2 wrote:

i know this sounds very random, but what does a colorblind person see when they see purple?
Well, it depends on how colorblind you are and in what ways. If you are completely colorblind, then yes, grey would be what they see, if you are only partly colorblind like most of the colorblind ‘community’ is, then you might see a different shade of purple, or depending on the circumstances, you might see blue, or red.
medians
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1000+ posts

An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

Maybe there could be website settings linked in the footer and/or navbar, so that logged out users can also access it? Maybe you could save presets to your account though, or stuff I don't know how to really explain.

cwkbenjamin5728 wrote:

among_us1w2 wrote:

i know this sounds very random, but what does a colorblind person see when they see purple?
Well, it depends on how colorblind you are and in what ways. If you are completely colorblind, then yes, grey would be what they see, if you are only partly colorblind like most of the colorblind ‘community’ is, then you might see a different shade of purple, or depending on the circumstances, you might see blue, or red.
People with tritanopia see grey as well.

mumu245 wrote:

(a lot of stuff)
Max 2.0 project: 50 000 000 B (50 MB)
The Scratch editor: 360 000 000 B (360 MB)
CD: 700 000 000 B (700 MB)
DVD: 4 700 000 000 B (4.7 GB)
Theoretical Scratch 3.0 project size limit: 708 000 000 000 B (708 GB, please don't try this at home)
What even is this XDD
Also, I love how the max project size limit went from 50MB to 708 GB.
And were people saying that it would “take too much space” or something?
banana439monkey
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

medians wrote:

(#1129)
Also, I love how the max project size limit went from 50MB to 708 GB.
And were people saying that it would “take too much space” or something?
YES LMAO
i've seen posts saying “1tb”, “at least 5-10gb”, 2.7gb, and all i see is people not understanding how rgb values work

Banana
scratchcode1_2_3
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An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

banana439monkey wrote:

(#1130)

medians wrote:

(#1129)
Also, I love how the max project size limit went from 50MB to 708 GB.
And were people saying that it would “take too much space” or something?
YES LMAO
i've seen posts saying “1tb”, “at least 5-10gb”, 2.7gb, and all i see is people not understanding how rgb values work

Banana
ahem that was me trying to explain how hex codes would not be a problem to store in the servers, hex codes are tiny values
mumu245
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