[PLEASE DO NOT PROTEST THE PURPLE] An option in account settings to change the site's theme and navigation bar colour

ToastersUnited

BabyBellaBoor wrote:
This is my idea for changing the color to the nav bar.

Great idea hm?

This is too messy, i would prefer a dropdown in the footer with a dark mode option, a classic option and colour contrast mode

ToastersUnited

CoolestCoding720 wrote:
First, people have been complaining about the purple everywhere.

As far as i can see, the purple doesnt really make a difference to anyone with good vision and they're acting like the americans did when they tried to put diagrams on road signs. A change that makes it more accessible, but people didn't like it because it was european and new and they had american pride or whatever.

That_One_Non-Binary

To add a second reasoning (since the reasoning I see here is only cosmetics), here’s something else to think about. Scratch changed it to purple for better Accessibility for visually impaired people right? Well ironically, im colorblind for purple, and reading users and the purple text has become much more difficult for me (because the user’s shade of purple looks like a purpleish-grey to me that I have trouble reading and the lighter shade of purple that’s on the navigation and purple text/links hurts my eyes and has made them water). So how about we ask scratch to consider changing the color for the sake of cosmetics AND colorblind people? (Ive also seen another post on forums of another colorblind person having a similar issue).

Last edited by That_One_Non-Binary (June 29, 2023 13:04:13)

rdococ

ToastersUnited wrote:
CoolestCoding720 wrote:
First, people have been complaining about the purple everywhere.
As far as i can see, the purple doesnt really make a difference to anyone with good vision and they're acting like the americans did when they tried to put diagrams on road signs. A change that makes it more accessible, but people didn't like it because it was european and new and they had american pride or whatever.

That's not the only complaint about the colour scheme. Purple and orange are just kind of an ugly combination to begin with, and there's also all the parts that weren't updated, not to mention the colourblind peeps that have difficulties discerning purple and grey. Unfortunately, I think the Scratch Team dropped the ball on this one

Last edited by rdococ (June 29, 2023 13:06:50)

-THEPLASMAX-

banana439monkey wrote:
Okay, this should be implemented when the skin is pushed to the whole site, but here are a few reasons why this should happen:

Scratch Wiki:
The wiki has it. Why shouldn't we have it?

A nice feature:
It gives users the freedom to break free from the blue and use a colour they may prefer

Simple:
It's somewhat simple. All you need to do is have a box requesting a colour code, or a colour name and it inputs it into a variable. That then extracts to the navigation bar and text colour.

Okay, but what if someone's set it to light grey, or white?
Then the site would automatically notice and change the text colour and colour of the messages and my stuff buttons on the navigation bar to black.

What about the default colour? What would it be?
Good question there. It would be the colour we have now. #855cd6 - purple. The text would automatically be in this text box.

What if a user is logged out?
It works the same as the wiki. You can't change it when logged out.

Use extensions!!!
Okay, there are people who are lazy in this world. Aside from being lazy, those extensions are only local, they don't apply to everywhere. I want to see this being quick and simple to set. I want to be able to log into a library all the way over in London (I live in the West Midlands) and still immediately see Scratch in dark theme as soon as I log into it. No tooling around or anything. Long story stort, I'm a productivity guy. When doing things, I find the quickest way to do it to save time, because it matters!

Lemme elaborate even more:
An option in account settings to change the skin's colour. This text box's contents, when applied will be imported into a variable and the text colour and navigation bar would change to that colour. This text box should also be accompanied by a colour picker that includes the full sRGB colour spectrum (thanks kenny2scratch for the idea). A list of pre-sets could be given for the user to click on, in order for that user to select a colour of their choice (although the comprehensive sRGB colour picker should absolutely still be present; thanks Vetzlan for the idea).That's pretty simple, right? Right so far. On top of that, though another suggestion, it's still concerning the skin itself. Here's an example screenshot of the homepage with another colour:

Anyway, here's my other idea. Dark theme. In account settings, there would be an option to switch to and from dark theme and light theme. Here's a screenshot of dark theme:

Here's a guide of the colours used:
Non-links/navigation bar links: #ffffff
Section headers: #24292e then #000000
Links: default
Background/section backgrounds/footer: #24292e

It also may be an idea to introduce this to the editor as well, since it's as (if not more) important as the website itself. The whole theme would synchronise across the whole site including the editor.

If you do get the option to actually log into the 3.0 offline editor (which would be cool), it would be cool to synchronise this idea to there.

Thoughts?

Banana

i am on ios cant use extentions

colinmacc

ToastersUnited wrote:
CoolestCoding720 wrote:
First, people have been complaining about the purple everywhere.
As far as i can see, the purple doesnt really make a difference to anyone with good vision and they're acting like the americans did when they tried to put diagrams on road signs. A change that makes it more accessible, but people didn't like it because it was european and new and they had american pride or whatever.

Actually after a couple of hours it's really hurting my eyes.

CoolestCoding720

BabyBellaBoorc said This is my idea for changing the color to the nav bar.

I agree with her option

CoolestCoding720

https://blog.cybersquare.org/hubfs/scratch-new-features.png
Maybe have a change to make it like that but your change it back but for the purple too

medians

sdjgkdsfgjdfgjfd wrote:
Just so you know - Dark mode already exists.

Forbidden word is not affiliated with Scratch, so no. You would have to get an external extension you cannot even name to use dark mode that way.

CoolestCoding720

t makes me sad we need to have access to change it

Last edited by CoolestCoding720 (June 29, 2023 13:20:54)

CoolestCoding720

Eclipsed said:

I’m just a little concerned that the 8 year old kids of Scratch would want to customize their skins, but type in ”dark orange” rather than #b35000, and then there would be a bit of confusion, but I’m sure they’ll get it if they ask someone who understands hex colours.

Offensive to my age

CoolestCoding720

sdjgkdsfgjdfgjfd wrote:
Does anyone notice the follow discussion button got into gray? If you're following it, click the “Unfollow Discussion” button and you'll see the button's gray instead of blue or purple.
Well the outline is purple, but the button itself is gray. I think it should be changed since a purple button would look much better.]
Personally I have ADHD and it helps me pay attention to it instead of looking at the scratch logo from thin air and I don't accidentally just missclick instead of msgs.
Honestly I do miss the blue abit. I personally agree, it needs to be changed.

I see that purple doesn't help

Last edited by CoolestCoding720 (June 29, 2023 13:25:38)

CoolestCoding720

CoolestCoding720 wrote:
sdjgkdsfgjdfgjfd wrote:
Does anyone notice the follow discussion button got into gray? If you're following it, click the “Unfollow Discussion” button and you'll see the button's gray instead of blue or purple.
Well the outline is purple, but the button itself is gray. I think it should be changed since a purple button would look much better.]
Personally I have ADHD and it helps me pay attention to it instead of looking at the scratch logo from thin air and I don't accidentally just missclick instead of msgs.
Honestly I do miss the blue abit. I personally agree, it needs to be changed.

I see that purple doesn't help and that this needs to be changed.

medians

CoolestCoding720 wrote:
Eclipsed said:

I’m just a little concerned that the 8 year old kids of Scratch would want to customize their skins, but type in ”dark orange” rather than #b35000, and then there would be a bit of confusion, but I’m sure they’ll get it if they ask someone who understands hex colours.

Offensive to my age

Uhm, how would that be offensive? I mean because they were saying that a lot of kids won't understand hex I guess.
Anyway, maybe it could also have a color picker instead, like in the Scratch editor?

lemonessie

So, now that the Header's purple, is it possible to change it back to the original? I support the idea for others, but I'm not really a person that's flexible to sudden change, especially on websites - it frustrates me and hurts my eyes a lot.

I'm thinking maybe there could be a drop-down menu with different pre-set themes/colors, each represented with a colored square, as well as a default, which would be the blue color? That would fix the problem of the hex codes for younger children, and be helpful to both people who are more comfortable with a different color, and people like me who'd prefer the original Scratch theme back.

Last edited by lemonessie (June 29, 2023 13:32:00)

medians

lemonessie wrote:
So, now that the Header's purple, is it possible to change it back to the original? I support the idea for others, but I'm not really a person that's flexible to sudden change, especially on websites - it frustrates me and hurts my eyes a lot.

I'm thinking maybe there could be a drop-down menu with different pre-set themes/colors, each represented with a colored square, as well as a default, which would be the blue color? That would fix the problem of the hex codes for younger children, and be helpful to both people who are more comfortable with a different color, and people like me who'd prefer the original Scratch theme back.

Thanks,
lemonessie

It isn't at the moment without extensions that you cannot name because there's a policy against naming browser extensions and userscripts, which annoys me.
Also, note the forbidden word preset also makes the 2.0 pages have the 3.0 colors (this did not happen before the update with the default preset when it was the default), which can be really annoying.
Maybe buttons to make it the presets too (like in forbidden word), or you could use a dropdown, and there could be a color picker?

Zydrolic

lemonessie wrote:
So, now that the Header's purple, is it possible to change it back to the original?

Not currently unless you use forbidden word, which in medians' popular languange means browser extension.
Don't name any because of this not so but also kind of funny policy that exists.
Or use inspect element and change the header with the color picker instead of hex every time you go to a page.

SONIC_ULTIMATE23

The forbidden word allows people to change the color of the scratch website I cannot name. Hopefully scratch can implement the forbidden word's features into the scratch website to allow anyone to change the color.

Zydrolic wrote:
lemonessie wrote:
So, now that the Header's purple, is it possible to change it back to the original?
Not currently unless you use forbidden word, which in medians' popular languange means browser extension.

IncognitoOrange

So with add*ns, you can change to color back to normal, but it won’t change to colors of the buttons? Dang that’s kinda irritating ._.

SylvaniansLover

There should be an option to change purple to blue. I'm not saying the moderators should change it all back, I'm saying there should be an option to change purple to blue. I've seen a lot of people who say the color update hurts their eyes. It hurts my eyes, too - and it also makes me feel sick. There aren't lots of colorblind people here - in fact, I haven't seen any person saying they're colorblind. But there are lots of not-colorblind people. And about two thirds of them do not like the update. That's why I think there should be an option to change purple to blue.

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