Discuss Scratch

avekdongol
Scratcher
27 posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

Ok, so this suggestion might be a little weird, but I am suggesting removing stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views because scratch is about programming, not fame. After all, Scratch is supposed to be about programming, not fame. Like, if someone makes projects to the best of their ability, but is not popular, they may have the impression that nobody likes their projects, and they might quit. So that's why I think that Scratch should not have stats for # of followers, etc.
-OdysseyCentral-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

No support.
Scratch isn’t about fame. That’s the golden rule we all know. You make projects for people to enjoy, you spend you hard time to see something good come our from your work. The # of followers etc. are for people who want a bit more than just programming.
waitwhat2288
Scratcher
100+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

Well, Scratch is also about “sharing” your projects, in which these particular statistics exist. If we remove these counters for social interactions, it would ruin the aspect of this philosophy.
Elijah999999
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

This has been suggested before, but I don't know what happened to it. Why though? If someone takes fame hunger to far, then report what they did. Even though fame isn't the most important aspect of Scratch, it still can motivate users, and it is very nice for someone to find out when someone enjoys their project. With your reasoning, we should also remove loves, and the “favorites” bar from each profile. And even get rid of remixes! You can still count how many there are, so let's just remove them!
Crispydogs101
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

I think the main reason why they exist is so that it shows how much support they get and it can bring confidence to the user. But either way there is actually something that Zacharry said that was going to be implemented but did not.

Za-Chary wrote:

You know how if a studio has more than 100 comments, then the “Comments” button on the studio says that there are “100+ comments”? Scratch 3.0 was initially going to do this same thing, but for project views — so, if your project had more than 100 views, then it would appear to have “100+ views.”
eikh2
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

No support because this destroys every aspect of sharing.
k7e
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

wikibro300000
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

while I would support this topic, there are just to much fame hungry ppl on scratch and it will cause controversy

Last edited by wikibro300000 (May 29, 2023 16:26:04)

ajskateboarder
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

Support if it's optional. Some platforms have a similar feature where you can hide your account statistics (like GitHub), which is nice for those who just use those platforms for non-social aspects
Vovon25
Scratcher
100+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

I don’t support. The number is just to show how many people have fun with your projects

sonic__fan
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

If it's optional, support. Some people may not want to see these numbers.
If it isn't optional, full no support. The amount of people that don't wanna see those numbers is a lot less than those that do.
wikibro300000
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

Vovon25 wrote:

I don’t support. The number is just to show how many people have fun with your projects

no, no no, no
its also for:
-flexing
-seing how much f4f have been done
-how much ppl got forced to follow

and who would want to see how many ppl anjoyed their projects?
Elijah999999
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

wikibro300000 wrote:

Vovon25 wrote:

I don’t support. The number is just to show how many people have fun with your projects
no, no no, no
its also for:
-flexing
-seing how much f4f have been done
-how much ppl got forced to follow
and who would want to see how many ppl anjoyed their projects?
I'd like to know your sources, if you have any. Nobody is forced to follow someone, that's literally impossible on Scratch. Followers aren't forced to play their projects anyway. F4F doesn't affect how many loves the game gets. The creator would want to get feedback, and people just dropping by might want to know how many people enjoyed that project too.

Last edited by Elijah999999 (May 29, 2023 21:08:15)

-RabbitWorld-
Scratcher
1000+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

No support, it's just a number. If you don't like seeing it simply ignore it.
waitwhat2288
Scratcher
100+ posts

Remove stats for number of followers, loves, faves, and views

wikibro300000 wrote:

Vovon25 wrote:

I don’t support. The number is just to show how many people have fun with your projects
no, no no, no
its also for:
-flexing

“Flexing” is already a reportable offense; it falls in the same category as harassment.

wikibro300000 wrote:

-seing how much f4f have been done

It's extremely vague whether or not people are following each other for the sole purpose of doing “follow for follow.” The definitive answer of why two people are following each other is ambiguous.

Also, the “following” and “followers” amount alone won't confirm how much “follow for follow” a person has done anyway.

wikibro300000 wrote:

-how much ppl got forced to follow

How would anybody be able to confirm that such a person was “forced” to follow another individual, especially by means of single-handedly using a simple “follower” counter.

wikibro300000 wrote:

and who would want to see how many ppl anjoyed their projects?

The creators of projects may use their statistics for motivation and what-not, I know I do.

Also, using such statistics for motivation isn't gluttonous in any manner.

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