Let's say I were to make a clicker game called “Chicken Clicker” with a cloud variable high score. And let's also say that there just so happened to be a section of code completely disabled and blocked off to all scratchers by using this block:

This section of code may or may not have cloud chat functionalities. Also, this code is well-hidden and the names of the related variables are generic and non-descriptive. There is nothing in the description mentioning this other hidden half of the project. In order to even know about this secret code, the scratcher would have to see inside the project, dig through all the sprites and code, not to mention actually understanding the code to know what is going on. Opening the project code would obviously disable the cloud variables until they exit the editor and reload the page.

Ban or Pass

No, because someone could see it, understand it, go to TurboWarp and share Discord info or something that breaks the Community Guidelines.

k7e wrote:

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No, because someone could see it, understand it, go to TurboWarp and share Discord info or something that breaks the Community Guidelines.

If they share it that's their problem. Right? And no communication over the cloud would be happening on the Scratch site. And how does that break the CG? Its not even on the scratch site. The scratch version is a completely different project.

-Guess_What- wrote:

k7e wrote:

(#2)
No, because someone could see it, understand it, go to TurboWarp and share Discord info or something that breaks the Community Guidelines.

If they share it that's their problem. Right? And no communication over the cloud would be happening on the Scratch site. And how does that break the CG? Its not even on the scratch site. The scratch version is a completely different project.

It's basically the same thing as putting a link to Discord in the code of a project, it's not on the Scratch site.

Projects that go against the Community Guidelines are not allowed to be uploaded to the Scratch website, even if you need a 3rd party website to open the Scratch project file.

PaddlerGames wrote:

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Projects that go against the Community Guidelines are not allowed to be uploaded to the Scratch website, even if you need a 3rd party website to open the Scratch project file.

How would it break the CG though? It's not even on the scratch website. I don't think the ST can control what I do with TurboWarp, right?

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#5)
Projects that go against the Community Guidelines are not allowed to be uploaded to the Scratch website, even if you need a 3rd party website to open the Scratch project file.

How would it break the CG though? It's not even on the scratch website. I don't think the ST can control what I do with TurboWarp, right?

You're technically doing it with Scratch, it's just the code is not run while on the Scratch website.

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#5)
Projects that go against the Community Guidelines are not allowed to be uploaded to the Scratch website, even if you need a 3rd party website to open the Scratch project file.

How would it break the CG though? It's not even on the scratch website.

The project is on the Scratch website, because the code in the project.json file is uploaded onto the Scratch servers. And you can't have cloud chat in your projects, because it's not allowed, according to this: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/357609/

If it's clear that the project is using TurboWarp to break the Scratch Community Guidelines, and the project is shared on Scratch, then the Scratch Team can certainly choose to unshare it. It's like if you shared your personal website on Scratch and it shows your email — sure, you're not sharing your email on Scratch, but you're using another website to break the Scratch Community Guidelines.

PaddlerGames wrote:

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-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#5)
Projects that go against the Community Guidelines are not allowed to be uploaded to the Scratch website, even if you need a 3rd party website to open the Scratch project file.

How would it break the CG though? It's not even on the scratch website.

The project is on the Scratch website, because the code in the project.json file is uploaded onto the Scratch servers. And you can't have cloud chat in your projects, because it's not allowed, according to this: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/357609/

dietbacon wrote:

Cloud chat projects use cloud variables to allow Scratchers to have text-based communication with each other.

Scratchers can't communicate through my project by any means.

INSERT-USER_NAME wrote:

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You're technically doing it with Scratch, it's just the code is not run while on the Scratch website.

Exactly! How is it illegal if it can't run? If someone makes a project that actually violates the guidelines, it gets removed, and then they re-share it with a few hat blocks disconnected, it that legal?

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#8)

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#5)
Projects that go against the Community Guidelines are not allowed to be uploaded to the Scratch website, even if you need a 3rd party website to open the Scratch project file.

How would it break the CG though? It's not even on the scratch website.

The project is on the Scratch website, because the code in the project.json file is uploaded onto the Scratch servers. And you can't have cloud chat in your projects, because it's not allowed, according to this: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/357609/

dietbacon wrote:

Cloud chat projects use cloud variables to allow Scratchers to have text-based communication with each other.

Scratchers can't communicate through my project by any means.

INSERT-USER_NAME wrote:

(#7)
You're technically doing it with Scratch, it's just the code is not run while on the Scratch website.

Exactly! How is it illegal if it can't run? If someone makes a project that actually violates the guidelines, it gets removed, and then they re-share it with a few hat blocks disconnected, it that legal?

Did you read @Za-Chary's reply yet?

PaddlerGames wrote:

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-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#8)

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#5)
Projects that go against the Community Guidelines are not allowed to be uploaded to the Scratch website, even if you need a 3rd party website to open the Scratch project file.

How would it break the CG though? It's not even on the scratch website.

The project is on the Scratch website, because the code in the project.json file is uploaded onto the Scratch servers. And you can't have cloud chat in your projects, because it's not allowed, according to this: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/357609/

dietbacon wrote:

Cloud chat projects use cloud variables to allow Scratchers to have text-based communication with each other.

Scratchers can't communicate through my project by any means.

INSERT-USER_NAME wrote:

(#7)
You're technically doing it with Scratch, it's just the code is not run while on the Scratch website.

Exactly! How is it illegal if it can't run? If someone makes a project that actually violates the guidelines, it gets removed, and then they re-share it with a few hat blocks disconnected, it that legal?

Did you read @Za-Chary's reply yet?

No, I got ninja'd

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#11)

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#8)

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#5)
Projects that go against the Community Guidelines are not allowed to be uploaded to the Scratch website, even if you need a 3rd party website to open the Scratch project file.

How would it break the CG though? It's not even on the scratch website.

The project is on the Scratch website, because the code in the project.json file is uploaded onto the Scratch servers. And you can't have cloud chat in your projects, because it's not allowed, according to this: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/357609/

dietbacon wrote:

Cloud chat projects use cloud variables to allow Scratchers to have text-based communication with each other.

Scratchers can't communicate through my project by any means.

INSERT-USER_NAME wrote:

(#7)
You're technically doing it with Scratch, it's just the code is not run while on the Scratch website.

Exactly! How is it illegal if it can't run? If someone makes a project that actually violates the guidelines, it gets removed, and then they re-share it with a few hat blocks disconnected, it that legal?

Did you read @Za-Chary's reply yet?

No, I got ninja'd

Are you ignoring it on purpose?

Za-Chary wrote:

(#9)
If it's clear that the project is using TurboWarp to break the Scratch Community Guidelines, and the project is shared on Scratch, then the Scratch Team can certainly choose to unshare it. It's like if you shared your personal website on Scratch and it shows your email — sure, you're not sharing your email on Scratch, but you're using another website to break the Scratch Community Guidelines.

Okay, this makes sense. Although, I am explicitly making it hard for people to find the turbowarp and cloud stuff nothing in the project or description will mention anything related to it. That's what the clicker game is for. The intention is that people dont find it!

PaddlerGames wrote:

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Are you ignoring it on purpose?

No

PaddlerGames wrote:

-Guess_What- wrote:

PaddlerGames wrote:

(#11)

-Guess_What- wrote:

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Did you read @Za-Chary's reply yet?

No, I got ninja'd

Are you ignoring it on purpose?

They posted their reply about a minute after @Za-Chary's reply. People usually get ninja'd even if the time between the replies is more than 2 or 3 minutes (i just got ninja'd omg). Don't accuse them of ignoring it.

Cloud chats are not allowed period. Turbowarp is just a scratch mod so it is still breaking CG to have a cloud chat there.

The_Game_ wrote:

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Cloud chats are not allowed period. Turbowarp is just a scratch mod so it is still breaking CG to have a cloud chat there.

But it is not owned or run by the ST

-Guess_What- wrote:

The_Game_ wrote:

(#16)
Cloud chats are not allowed period. Turbowarp is just a scratch mod so it is still breaking CG to have a cloud chat there.

But it is not owned or run by the ST

You could just easily tell people to run it in TurboWarp though, or there could be people who want to use TurboWarp instead of Scratch.

medians wrote:

(#18)

-Guess_What- wrote:

The_Game_ wrote:

(#16)
Cloud chats are not allowed period. Turbowarp is just a scratch mod so it is still breaking CG to have a cloud chat there.

But it is not owned or run by the ST

You could just easily tell people to run it in TurboWarp though, or there could be people who want to use TurboWarp instead of Scratch.

The point is that Im not going to tell anyone I don't want people to find it. I am going to do everything to hide it

-Guess_What- wrote:

medians wrote:

(#18)

-Guess_What- wrote:

The_Game_ wrote:

(#16)
Cloud chats are not allowed period. Turbowarp is just a scratch mod so it is still breaking CG to have a cloud chat there.

But it is not owned or run by the ST

You could just easily tell people to run it in TurboWarp though, or there could be people who want to use TurboWarp instead of Scratch.

The point is that Im not going to tell anyone I don't want people to find it. I am going to do everything to hide it

Yes, that was an example of what someone could do (you can do the same thing for Forkphorus using a similar boolean block) if they had something very similar to this.
Did you read my other example? Another example is that someone could find out, and start trying to tell people to run it in TurboWarp (though they most likely would comment about it, meaning you could delete it)
And the risks are still too high. You would have to use pre-select phrases/emoticons/emojis.