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GIitchInTheMatrix
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Za-Chary wrote:

2.4 Revert back to older versions of the Scratch editor
The Scratch editor has to update sometimes to accommodate certain changes. In particular, an online editor that ran off of Adobe Flash (rather than Java) was added in the Scratch 2.0 editor, and the Scratch 3.0 editor was created for tablet support and in anticipation of the discontinuation of Flash. Changing the editor back to these older versions would not only undo years of hard work by the Scratch Team, but they also might not work online anymore. If you wish, you can download the Scratch 1.4 and Scratch 2.0 offline editors.

The Scratch Team is still working on bug fixes, new features, and other improvements on the Scratch 3.0 editor. The new interface was created in such a way that it is easy for the Scratch Team to keep working on improvements. The Scratch Team will continue to evaluate constructive feedback on how they could improve upon the current Scratch editor.
I’d suggest changing this a little:
-Scratch 3.0 was made to take advantage of JavaScript, and development began before Adobe even announced Flash was to be discontinued, right?
-3.0 uses JavaScript, not Java. They’re really different.(unless you meant 1.x, which it used Squeak, which might have been Java, but I think it was JavaScript)

Last edited by GIitchInTheMatrix (May 17, 2023 12:32:58)

medians
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

2.4 Revert back to older versions of the Scratch editor
The Scratch editor has to update sometimes to accommodate certain changes. In particular, an online editor that ran off of Adobe Flash (rather than Java) was added in the Scratch 2.0 editor, and the Scratch 3.0 editor was created for tablet support and in anticipation of the discontinuation of Flash. Changing the editor back to these older versions would not only undo years of hard work by the Scratch Team, but they also might not work online anymore. If you wish, you can download the Scratch 1.4 and Scratch 2.0 offline editors.

The Scratch Team is still working on bug fixes, new features, and other improvements on the Scratch 3.0 editor. The new interface was created in such a way that it is easy for the Scratch Team to keep working on improvements. The Scratch Team will continue to evaluate constructive feedback on how they could improve upon the current Scratch editor.
I’d suggest changing this a little:
-Scratch 3.0 was made to take advantage of JavaScript, and development began before Adobe even announced Flash was to be discontinued, right?
-3.0 uses JavaScript, not Java. They’re really different.(unless you meant 1.x, which it used Squeak, which might have been Java, but I think it was JavaScript)
Oh my god how did I never realize this was on here LOL
Also, Squeak was an implementation of something called Smalltalk
Also, yeah. Development on 3.0 started in 2016, and Adobe Flash announced to be discontinued in 2017.

Last edited by medians (May 17, 2023 12:34:20)

PaperMarioFan2022
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

medians wrote:

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

henhenboben wrote:

creeperyeettt wrote:

(#7299)

EtheBee wrote:

say [make mobile app] for (forever) secs
thats rejected fully
no its accepted they are making a mobile app

Excuse me? Did you not read TOLORS? THIS IS FULLY REJECTED BY ST

King of the page (I am so good at getting this role ngl).
Why do they have ScratchJR and the mobile app on Android tablets then?

Because they don't allow users to change the code, and they just make the scripts. Apple is very strict with their App Store poilcy when it comes to programs and coding languages like Scratch.
creeperyeettt
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

medians wrote:

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

henhenboben wrote:

creeperyeettt wrote:

(#7299)

EtheBee wrote:

say [make mobile app] for (forever) secs
thats rejected fully
no its accepted they are making a mobile app

Excuse me? Did you not read TOLORS? THIS IS FULLY REJECTED BY ST

King of the page (I am so good at getting this role ngl).
Why do they have ScratchJR and the mobile app on Android tablets then?
I thought he meant mobile as for phones
its on tablets but not phones, I consider phones “mobile devices” as you normally carry them around
medians
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

medians wrote:

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

henhenboben wrote:

creeperyeettt wrote:

(#7299)

EtheBee wrote:

say [make mobile app] for (forever) secs
thats rejected fully
no its accepted they are making a mobile app

Excuse me? Did you not read TOLORS? THIS IS FULLY REJECTED BY ST

King of the page (I am so good at getting this role ngl).
Why do they have ScratchJR and the mobile app on Android tablets then?

Because they don't allow users to change the code, and they just make the scripts. Apple is very strict with their App Store poilcy when it comes to programs and coding languages like Scratch.
Well, Apple devices weren't mentioned and by fully rejected, I thought you meant as in it wouldn't be available on any store.

Last edited by medians (May 17, 2023 12:40:44)

GIitchInTheMatrix
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

medians wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

2.4 Revert back to older versions of the Scratch editor
The Scratch editor has to update sometimes to accommodate certain changes. In particular, an online editor that ran off of Adobe Flash (rather than Java) was added in the Scratch 2.0 editor, and the Scratch 3.0 editor was created for tablet support and in anticipation of the discontinuation of Flash. Changing the editor back to these older versions would not only undo years of hard work by the Scratch Team, but they also might not work online anymore. If you wish, you can download the Scratch 1.4 and Scratch 2.0 offline editors.

The Scratch Team is still working on bug fixes, new features, and other improvements on the Scratch 3.0 editor. The new interface was created in such a way that it is easy for the Scratch Team to keep working on improvements. The Scratch Team will continue to evaluate constructive feedback on how they could improve upon the current Scratch editor.
I’d suggest changing this a little:
-Scratch 3.0 was made to take advantage of JavaScript, and development began before Adobe even announced Flash was to be discontinued, right?
-3.0 uses JavaScript, not Java. They’re really different.(unless you meant 1.x, which it used Squeak, which might have been Java, but I think it was JavaScript)
Oh my god how did I never realize this was on here LOL
Also, Squeak was an implementation of something called Smalltalk
Also, yeah. Development on 3.0 started in 2016, and Adobe Flash announced to be discontinued in 2017.
I saw it a few months ago, before i know how websites work, and assumed that Java is what it uses. Well, i was wrong.
PaperMarioFan2022
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1000+ posts

The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

medians wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

2.4 Revert back to older versions of the Scratch editor
The Scratch editor has to update sometimes to accommodate certain changes. In particular, an online editor that ran off of Adobe Flash (rather than Java) was added in the Scratch 2.0 editor, and the Scratch 3.0 editor was created for tablet support and in anticipation of the discontinuation of Flash. Changing the editor back to these older versions would not only undo years of hard work by the Scratch Team, but they also might not work online anymore. If you wish, you can download the Scratch 1.4 and Scratch 2.0 offline editors.

The Scratch Team is still working on bug fixes, new features, and other improvements on the Scratch 3.0 editor. The new interface was created in such a way that it is easy for the Scratch Team to keep working on improvements. The Scratch Team will continue to evaluate constructive feedback on how they could improve upon the current Scratch editor.
I’d suggest changing this a little:
-Scratch 3.0 was made to take advantage of JavaScript, and development began before Adobe even announced Flash was to be discontinued, right?
-3.0 uses JavaScript, not Java. They’re really different.(unless you meant 1.x, which it used Squeak, which might have been Java, but I think it was JavaScript)
Oh my god how did I never realize this was on here LOL
Also, Squeak was an implementation of something called Smalltalk
Also, yeah. Development on 3.0 started in 2016, and Adobe Flash announced to be discontinued in 2017.
I saw it a few months ago, before i know how websites work, and assumed that Java is what it uses. Well, i was wrong.

I still don't understand how ST thinks this is a bad idea, and why it's rejected by them to revert to the older editor anyway.
RobotChickens
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

henhenboben wrote:

(#7300)

creeperyeettt wrote:

(#7299)

EtheBee wrote:

say [make mobile app] for (forever) secs
thats rejected fully
no its accepted they are making a mobile app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.scratch&hl=en_US&gl=US&pli=1

Last edited by RobotChickens (May 17, 2023 12:50:50)

GIitchInTheMatrix
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

medians wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

2.4 Revert back to older versions of the Scratch editor
The Scratch editor has to update sometimes to accommodate certain changes. In particular, an online editor that ran off of Adobe Flash (rather than Java) was added in the Scratch 2.0 editor, and the Scratch 3.0 editor was created for tablet support and in anticipation of the discontinuation of Flash. Changing the editor back to these older versions would not only undo years of hard work by the Scratch Team, but they also might not work online anymore. If you wish, you can download the Scratch 1.4 and Scratch 2.0 offline editors.

The Scratch Team is still working on bug fixes, new features, and other improvements on the Scratch 3.0 editor. The new interface was created in such a way that it is easy for the Scratch Team to keep working on improvements. The Scratch Team will continue to evaluate constructive feedback on how they could improve upon the current Scratch editor.
I’d suggest changing this a little:
-Scratch 3.0 was made to take advantage of JavaScript, and development began before Adobe even announced Flash was to be discontinued, right?
-3.0 uses JavaScript, not Java. They’re really different.(unless you meant 1.x, which it used Squeak, which might have been Java, but I think it was JavaScript)
Oh my god how did I never realize this was on here LOL
Also, Squeak was an implementation of something called Smalltalk
Also, yeah. Development on 3.0 started in 2016, and Adobe Flash announced to be discontinued in 2017.
I saw it a few months ago, before i know how websites work, and assumed that Java is what it uses. Well, i was wrong.

I still don't understand how ST thinks this is a bad idea, and why it's rejected by them to revert to the older editor anyway.
2.0 used Flash, discontinued so you need an extension to support it which they don’t allow the mentioning of anyways, and 1.x used Squeak. Those are either deprecated or tough to implement in the browser well enough to even attempt support.
medians
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

2.0 used Flash, discontinued so you need an extension to support it which they don’t allow the mentioning of anyways, and 1.x used Squeak. Those are either deprecated or tough to implement in the browser well enough to even attempt support.
You can't actually use that extension on 2.0 though, you have to actually get Flash because Scratch 2.0 used AS3.
GIitchInTheMatrix
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

medians wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

2.0 used Flash, discontinued so you need an extension to support it which they don’t allow the mentioning of anyways, and 1.x used Squeak. Those are either deprecated or tough to implement in the browser well enough to even attempt support.
You can't actually use that extension on 2.0 though, you have to actually get Flash because Scratch 2.0 used AS3.
I’m not referencing the Scratch extension, i mean a general browser extension.
medians
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

medians wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

2.0 used Flash, discontinued so you need an extension to support it which they don’t allow the mentioning of anyways, and 1.x used Squeak. Those are either deprecated or tough to implement in the browser well enough to even attempt support.
You can't actually use that extension on 2.0 though, you have to actually get Flash because Scratch 2.0 used AS3.
I’m not referencing the Scratch extension, i mean a general browser extension.
No, it doesn't support AS3 is what I mean, so you have to download Flash (either by disabling the timebomb or the latest version without the timebomb).
PaperMarioFan2022
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

GlitchInTheMatrix wrote:

2.0 used Flash, discontinued so you need an extension to support it which they don’t allow the mentioning of anyways, and 1.x used Squeak. Those are either deprecated or tough to implement in the browser well enough to even attempt support.

Ah, okay. Now it's starting to make sense to me. So ST thought that it would be very tough to implement on limited resourced I guess? That's fair, but still it would be pretty neat to have it implemented subsided.
GIitchInTheMatrix
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

medians wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

medians wrote:

GIitchInTheMatrix wrote:

2.0 used Flash, discontinued so you need an extension to support it which they don’t allow the mentioning of anyways, and 1.x used Squeak. Those are either deprecated or tough to implement in the browser well enough to even attempt support.
You can't actually use that extension on 2.0 though, you have to actually get Flash because Scratch 2.0 used AS3.
I’m not referencing the Scratch extension, i mean a general browser extension.
No, it doesn't support AS3 is what I mean, so you have to download Flash (either by disabling the timebomb or the latest version without the timebomb).
Well, now its even more tough to support it.

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

GlitchInTheMatrix wrote:

2.0 used Flash, discontinued so you need an extension to support it which they don’t allow the mentioning of anyways, and 1.x used Squeak. Those are either deprecated or tough to implement in the browser well enough to even attempt support.

Ah, okay. Now it's starting to make sense to me. So ST thought that it would be very tough to implement on limited resourced I guess? That's fair, but still it would be pretty neat to have it implemented subsided.
Kinda. The big issue is Flash is not officially supported anymore.
Mini_Man2013
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

i do not wanna suggest a single idea ever again
wikibro300000
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

Za-Chary wrote:

3.3 Ban certain franchises – just report inappropriate projects
Darn, serously?! Now im worried about the fact that spongebob projects are always gonna be everywhere. They serously make me like:
AHHGHH
PaperMarioFan2022
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1000+ posts

The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

wikibro300000 wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

3.3 Ban certain franchises – just report inappropriate projects
Darn, serously?! Now im worried about the fact that spongebob projects are always gonna be everywhere. They serously make me like:
AHHGHH

They can have copyright ©️ as the symbol is below the project boarder (located next to the report button).
7salad3salad
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

wikibro300000 wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

3.3 Ban certain franchises – just report inappropriate projects
Darn, serously?! Now im worried about the fact that spongebob projects are always gonna be everywhere. They serously make me like:
AHHGHH

They can have copyright ©️ as the symbol is below the project boarder (located next to the report button).
What
PaperMarioFan2022
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1000+ posts

The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

7salad3salad wrote:

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

wikibro300000 wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

3.3 Ban certain franchises – just report inappropriate projects
Darn, serously?! Now im worried about the fact that spongebob projects are always gonna be everywhere. They serously make me like:
AHHGHH

They can have copyleft © symbol as is below the project boarder (located next to the report button).
What

There is a copyright symbol that makes sure something that you create isn’t stolen or copyright claimed.

Last edited by PaperMarioFan2022 (May 17, 2023 18:02:23)

RobotChickens
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The Official List of Rejected Suggestions

7salad3salad wrote:

(#7320)

PaperMarioFan2022 wrote:

wikibro300000 wrote:

Za-Chary wrote:

3.3 Ban certain franchises – just report inappropriate projects
Darn, serously?! Now im worried about the fact that spongebob projects are always gonna be everywhere. They serously make me like:
AHHGHH

They can have copyright ©️ as the symbol is below the project boarder (located next to the report button).
What
This thing:

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