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epicanna27
Scratcher
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How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Projects can go blank in other ways… my whitelisted chat room that I'd spent 6 hours on got partially deleted because I was working on it on 2 computers.
mlp37
Scratcher
2 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

GOOD STORY!
s-swrichter
Scratcher
100+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Lightnin wrote:

technoboy10 wrote:

Neat story! It'd be cool if this was in project form, too.


I had the same thought! Would you (or anyone?) like to make it into a project? That'd be awesome.

Can I do it, plz?
s-swrichter
Scratcher
100+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Mad it in project form!!! The case of the glitch-a true story

technoboy10 wrote:

Neat story! It'd be cool if this was in project form, too.
garlicbreathinator
Scratcher
48 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

some projects I try to open load all of the assets and then after all assets are loaded it just stays at “__/__ assets loaded” and doesn't switch to the project. If you go to the editor page on this project, it opens into a blank editor with the scratchcat sprite. I have tried reloading and using remixes, but the same thing happens. Some projects that do this for me are http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/10230368/ and http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/14604179/ .
-SnowingStar-
Scratcher
49 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

There are glitches and bugs EVERYWHERE! ppl r being logged out randomly world wide and like all at the same rime and then at scattered times common guys!!!!
ealgase
Scratcher
100+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Hardmath123 wrote:

Wow, I love stories like this — it makes code ninjas look so much cooler than most people consider them to be!

Me too!
MrSherlockHolmes
Scratcher
500+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Well done ZedProductions!
Ewandora
New Scratcher
1 post

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Jak się tu czatuje???
patercat1234
Scratcher
7 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

If you go to https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/58996582/ you will see a glitch in the more blocks section.
LoveMinecraftSupers
Scratcher
100+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Ahhhhh…. 2 seconds later AHH GOD WHAT THE Hey A GLITCH??
enfor
Scratcher
69 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Lightnin wrote:

Solving bad bugs is like solving a mystery: you have to gather clues, imagine how the glitch might happen, and then test your theories.

Recently we were up against a really bad glitch: a small percentage of projects were getting saved in an empty or blank state. The loss rate was only 0.0004% of all project saves - but that's still too high. We never want to lose Scratcher's work: it's super important that Scratchers feel confident that their work won't get lost. So fixing this problem became our highest priority.

But the comments and forum posts we were seeing about this glitch were really hazy - just people saying that all their work disappeared suddenly, for no clear reason. Vague info about glitches is better than no info about glitches, but it doesn't help us get the most important job done: making the problem happen here, where we can step through the code and see exactly what causes the error. Only then can we fix it!

Every report we'd get, we'd restore the projects (so the creators didn't lose any of their work permanently). But that didn't help us understand what led to the projects being lost in the first place. That is, until ZedProduction gave us a key bit of information:

ZedProduction wrote:

Details: I started up the project, and it began the load. I clicked on customs, witch I think was the problem, and the project suddenly opened without anything in it, just a blank shell. I was shocked, and tried to reload the page, but before I could, it auto-saved. I then posted this on the forums.

That gave us a very helpful clue - that at least one of the projects was lost when the creator clicked on the costumes tab before the project was finished loading. We guessed that that might trigger a save before the project was completely loaded - resulting in an empty project. So scmb1 tested that theory out on her test account, and was able to cause one of her test projects to go blank - w00t! That was cause for celebration.

Once we can consistently make a glitch happen on our own computers, it's only a matter of time before we can fix it. Johnm worked through the weekend on the code, we tested it out on Monday, and then we released it this morning. So from around 11 a.m. today onward, it should be much less likely that a project “blanks out.”

This particular story may not be over - there may be other causes for projects getting saved in a “blank” state. But we're pretty confident that we've eliminated one of the causes for that problem (and maybe all of the causes - we hope!). If you (or any Scratcher you know!) see one of your projects suddenly go blank, we want to know about it! In most cases we can restore it. Any additional info you can provide - like what you did before it happened, a link to the project, your browser, operating system, and anything else you think could be helpful - may give us the clues we need to solve the mystery.

Scratch On!
(And thanks again to ZedProduction!)

Thanks for the information.
Asymptoteles
Scratcher
29 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Lightnin wrote:

ZedProduction wrote:

Details: I started up the project, and it began the load. I clicked on customs, witch I think was the problem, and the project suddenly opened without anything in it, just a blank shell. I was shocked, and tried to reload the page, but before I could, it auto-saved. I then posted this on the forums.

What really ought to be learned from that story is, that the auto-save feature (as it currently is) is BAD!

To be more exact: it is of course good, that changes do get auto-saved, but it is BAD that this auto-save unavoidably overwrites the original project.

It could auto-save to some “under construction” project, and if the session crashes, and the user later re-connects and re-opens their project,
they could be offered the choice of catching up at latest auto-save, or rollback to latest explicit save.
If user clicks the “view project page” from the editor then he could be asked whether to save the changes back to the project, or view the current unsaved state of the project.

just sayin'
Blank1234
Scratcher
500+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

dat happend to meh
Armorgamesfan687
Scratcher
19 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

ok
LoveMinecraftSupers
Scratcher
100+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Armorgamesfan687 wrote:

ok
WUZZA
Hamish752
Scratcher
1000+ posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Really interesting… Thanks for the story!
KTotoro
Scratcher
1 post

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

ughh glitch in my game
Alunity
Scratcher
18 posts

How do Scratch glitches get fixed? A story....

Hi
i was searching for a forum when i saw this on my screen
There was a line of letters going diagonly on my screen on the search
This is the Site


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