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applejuiceproduc
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PPPDUD wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

PPPDUD wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

theseawasclosed wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Caroix wrote:

ajskateboarder wrote:

WojtekGame wrote:

Caroix wrote:

Just me installing a lot of stuff, programming a lot and messing with settings and internal stuff
then this is why a 7yo kid shouldn't use Windows, i had that, but it wasn't corrupted, just filled, but i was better at informatics, so i ran out of trouble.
Don't worry Caroix, I don't think you are 7
I am not 7, that was years ago. The thing is that I follow a lot of guides and then make some mistakes and then the computer gets corrupted because of me doing something without knowing what it does, my Windows PC got corrupted like 7 times before
Yeah… It's pretty easy to do that.

But windows's whole “reason” for locking down everything and basically not letting you do anything with the os even if your an admin is to protect you from messing up the os, but it still happened. I much prefer an os that lets you do whatever you want with your system (with an admin account ofc), but hides it away so less experiences users don't need to worry about it. Linux has become pretty good at this.
have you been snorting corporate propaganda or something? there is no option whatsoever on an iphone to sideload apps even if i knew what i was doing and i really wanted to. it is locked down to force you to use their app store, thus making them more profit.
What? I never said iPhone wasn't locked down either? I was just giving linux as an example. The only truly open OS is linux (and bsd ig). Android doesn't count, although it is still better than iOS
Android is Linux, like ChromeOS.
Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
Rooting moment-
Not easily.
TheGlassPenguin
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applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms

Last edited by TheGlassPenguin (April 13, 2023 19:27:23)

ajskateboarder
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Mac Pros are so overrated
applejuiceproduc
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TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms
I said Easily. These are all not easy to do and or are made to look very scary and dangerous so you stay in google's walled garden.

1. Enabling untrusted apps - Looks and sounds very scary.
2. Developer options - Most users won't do this because iT's FoR dEvElOpErS
3. Rooting - hard
4. Custom roms - hard
PPPDUD
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applejuiceproduc wrote:

TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms
I said Easily. These are all not easy to do and or are made to look very scary and dangerous so you stay in google's walled garden.

1. Enabling untrusted apps - Looks and sounds very scary.
2. Developer options - Most users won't do this because iT's FoR dEvElOpErS
3. Rooting - hard
4. Custom roms - hard
Number one is necessary for privacy and security with WorldExplorer 4.2.
applejuiceproduc
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PPPDUD wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms
I said Easily. These are all not easy to do and or are made to look very scary and dangerous so you stay in google's walled garden.

1. Enabling untrusted apps - Looks and sounds very scary.
2. Developer options - Most users won't do this because iT's FoR dEvElOpErS
3. Rooting - hard
4. Custom roms - hard
Number one is necessary for privacy and security with WorldExplorer 4.2.
Ik but it sounds scary
TheGlassPenguin
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applejuiceproduc wrote:

TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms
I said Easily. These are all not easy to do and or are made to look very scary and dangerous so you stay in google's walled garden.
does it matter that it sounds scary if it does what it says? it's still better than ios not having them at all and forcing you to stay within apple's walled garden-that unlike google's-doesn't work with most things other than apple devices
PPPDUD
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TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms
I said Easily. These are all not easy to do and or are made to look very scary and dangerous so you stay in google's walled garden.
does it matter that it sounds scary if it does what it says? it's still better than ios not having them at all and forcing you to stay within apple's walled garden-that unlike google's-doesn't work with most things other than apple devices
If Apple didn't have that kind of protection, users would be malware attacked quickly given their popularity. This is why Safari exists so that you can sideload web apps without the trouble, and that's how it was intended to be.
applejuiceproduc
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TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms
I said Easily. These are all not easy to do and or are made to look very scary and dangerous so you stay in google's walled garden.
does it matter that it sounds scary if it does what it says? it's still better than ios not having them at all and forcing you to stay within apple's walled garden-that unlike google's-doesn't work with most things other than apple devices
Yeah, android is a bit better but still. Calling something untrusted, when it's not from googles own centralised repos isn't great. Idk
ajskateboarder
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PPPDUD wrote:

If Apple didn't have that kind of protection, users would be malware attacked quickly given their popularity. This is why Safari exists so that you can sideload web apps without the trouble, and that's how it was intended to be.
That response sounds a little big-techy
TheGlassPenguin
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PPPDUD wrote:

If Apple didn't have that kind of protection, users would be malware attacked quickly given their popularity. This is why Safari exists so that you can sideload web apps without the trouble, and that's how it was intended to be.
i've had untrusted apps turned on on my android tablet for a long time now, and i've never gotten attacked by malware, mostly because i'm actually being careful with what i'm installing.
as with any platform, you have to take basic precautions when going into technical stuff like this. don't install things you don't know from people or places that aren't trusted, get a decent anti-virus, basic stuff like that.
it's not like immediately after i confirm that i want to enable untrusted apps, i'm going to get infected by every virus, worm, and trojan ever to exist. companies using security as an excuse to lock users in for profit is a really * tactic.
theseawasclosed
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PPPDUD wrote:

TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms
I said Easily. These are all not easy to do and or are made to look very scary and dangerous so you stay in google's walled garden.
does it matter that it sounds scary if it does what it says? it's still better than ios not having them at all and forcing you to stay within apple's walled garden-that unlike google's-doesn't work with most things other than apple devices
If Apple didn't have that kind of protection, users would be malware attacked quickly given their popularity. This is why Safari exists so that you can sideload web apps without the trouble, and that's how it was intended to be.
websites aren't apps and you aren't sideloading.

“anytime someone puts a lock on something you own, against your wishes, and doesn't give you the key, they're not doing it for your benefit.”
scratchusername40
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theseawasclosed wrote:

(#1492)
“anytime someone puts a lock on something you own, against your wishes, and doesn't give you the key, they're not doing it for your benefit.”
not always true, for example if my dad blocks p*rn sites on my computer (which he actually did), that's good
ajskateboarder
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scratchusername40 wrote:

theseawasclosed wrote:

(#1492)
“anytime someone puts a lock on something you own, against your wishes, and doesn't give you the key, they're not doing it for your benefit.”
not always true, for example if my dad blocks p*rn sites on my computer (which he actually did), that's good
Huh, that's what Apple tried to do a few years after the iPhone launch
applejuiceproduc
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scratchusername40 wrote:

theseawasclosed wrote:

(#1492)
“anytime someone puts a lock on something you own, against your wishes, and doesn't give you the key, they're not doing it for your benefit.”
not always true, for example if my dad blocks p*rn sites on my computer (which he actually did), that's good
Yeah, but that's your parents. If anybody but your parents, or maybe your government (depends a whole lot, the chinese government censorship stuff isn't for your own good at all) does it it's probably not for your benefit.
ISTILLMAKESTUFF
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JoshAtticus wrote:

Caroix wrote:

Get Mac for $800-1000
Customize it
Resell Mac for $1200-1800
new upgradable and customisable mac, this shouldn't be too exp- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Get a m2 max macbook, much cheaper, and maybe more powerful than that mac?
BreadcatGames
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ajskateboarder wrote:

Mac Pros are so overrated
based comment
TheGlassPenguin
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someone on another website wrote:

(A customer is calling because iTunes can’t detect her new iPad. I pick up the phone and she speaks immediately.)
Customer: “I swear that if, at any point in this conversation, you tell me to buy a Mac, I will find you and kill you.”
Me: “Okay, well, I’m not telling you to buy a Mac, but you should know that they cut back on compatibility issues and-”
Customer: “Don’t do it. Just stop now. Make the PC work. I believe in you.”
(and no, i am not the ‘me’ in this post. this is a repost.)

Last edited by TheGlassPenguin (April 14, 2023 17:52:42)

theseawasclosed
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applejuiceproduc wrote:

scratchusername40 wrote:

theseawasclosed wrote:

(#1492)
“anytime someone puts a lock on something you own, against your wishes, and doesn't give you the key, they're not doing it for your benefit.”
not always true, for example if my dad blocks p*rn sites on my computer (which he actually did), that's good
Yeah, but that's your parents. If anybody but your parents, or maybe your government (depends a whole lot, the chinese government censorship stuff isn't for your own good at all) does it it's probably not for your benefit.
you don't really own your computer, your parents do, until you leave home in which case you will most likely get to keep it.
BreadcatGames
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PPPDUD wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

TheGlassPenguin wrote:

applejuiceproduc wrote:

Yes, but it isn't open, like chrome OS. You don't have the freedom to easily do whatever you want with it.
uhh
enabling untrusted apps
developer options
rooting
custom roms
I said Easily. These are all not easy to do and or are made to look very scary and dangerous so you stay in google's walled garden.

1. Enabling untrusted apps - Looks and sounds very scary.
2. Developer options - Most users won't do this because iT's FoR dEvElOpErS
3. Rooting - hard
4. Custom roms - hard
Number one is necessary for privacy and security with WorldExplorer 4.2.
Number somewhere around #25 is an actual GUI that looks half-decent

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