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#21Feb. 24, 2023 18:35:54
vendchris
New Scratcher
63 posts

the good button

A better option rather than a useless button that does nothing rather than sending a message to the creator, is discussing why the project is good and expressing your opinions about the project in the comments. To be honest, this just encourages people to not use their keyboards.

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#22Feb. 24, 2023 18:43:09
GUYWHOLOVESCODE
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the good button

vendchris wrote:

A better option rather than a useless button that does nothing rather than sending a message to the creator, is discussing why the project is good and expressing your opinions about the project in the comments. To be honest, this just encourages people to not use their keyboards.
Loves also don't describe what was done well, and neither do favorites, so let's just remove all the buttons below project screens. (I know, I know, they add a bit of fame, but adding a way of saying “good” with a little less server space could be very helpful to the site overall.)
v A lot of compliments on projects are literally just this anyway. v

Scratcher wrote:

good
And comments probably take up more server space than buttons, meaning that this would help with Scratch's eternal issue of paying for storage a bit.

Last edited by GUYWHOLOVESCODE (Feb. 24, 2023 18:45:08)

#23Feb. 24, 2023 18:46:35
vendchris
New Scratcher
63 posts

the good button

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

Loves also don't describe what was done well, and neither do favorites, so let's just remove all the buttons below project screens

vendchris wrote:

A better option rather than a useless button that does nothing rather than sending a message to the creator, is discussing why the project is good and expressing your opinions about the project in the comments.
#24Feb. 24, 2023 18:53:05
GUYWHOLOVESCODE
Scratcher
500+ posts

the good button

vendchris wrote:

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

Loves also don't describe what was done well, and neither do favorites, so let's just remove all the buttons below project screens

vendchris wrote:

A better option rather than a useless button that does nothing rather than sending a message to the creator, is discussing why the project is good and expressing your opinions about the project in the comments.
Based off the fact that you didn't quote the parenthesis, you appear to now be agreeing with my joke statement. Also, still, the useless button is still less storage on the servers than

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

Scratcher wrote:

good
and this accomplishes exactly as much as this comment. An extremely large majority of comments, especially on popular projects, are just “good” or a variation of it.
#25Feb. 24, 2023 19:00:23
vendchris
New Scratcher
63 posts

the good button

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

Based off the fact that you didn't quote the parenthesis, you appear to now be agreeing with my joke statement.
Oh, yes, they at least do something.

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

Also, still, the useless button is still less storage on the servers than
“good” Isn't the only thing being posted in the comment section, therefore, the Scratch Team could just spent time and effort on a useless button with literally no benefits.

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

and this accomplishes exactly as much as this comment. An extremely large majority of comments, especially on popular projects, are just “good” or a variation of it.
Therefore, a whole new discussion starts by this comment, they are at least using their keyboards and attracting with the community.
#26Feb. 24, 2023 19:11:38
Scratch--TheCat
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the good button

Someone can make a project that's something like “ Good if u hate me” or “ Good this project if you hate @A_Scratcher” and people would “good” those types of projects to show that they hate the user who made those projects/the subject of the project
#27Feb. 24, 2023 19:13:06
sonic__fan
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the good button

nevermind

Last edited by sonic__fan (Feb. 24, 2023 23:50:21)

#28Feb. 24, 2023 20:34:56
blablablahello
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1000+ posts

the good button

Scratch--TheCat wrote:

Someone can make a project that's something like “ Good if u hate me” or “ Good this project if you hate @A_Scratcher” and people would “good” those types of projects to show that they hate the user who made those projects/the subject of the project
And someone can also make a project saying “Like if you hate @A_Scratcher” and people would “like” those types of projects to show that they hate the subject of the project
#29Feb. 24, 2023 22:52:45
GUYWHOLOVESCODE
Scratcher
500+ posts

the good button

Scratch--TheCat wrote:

Someone can make a project that's something like “ Good if u hate me” or “ Good this project if you hate @A_Scratcher” and people would “good” those types of projects to show that they hate the user who made those projects/the subject of the project
Hmm, I wonder if there is also a heart-shaped and star-shaped button that can already be used for that, and a button whose label starts with “R” to deal with it?
#30Feb. 24, 2023 23:04:55
GUYWHOLOVESCODE
Scratcher
500+ posts

the good button

vendchris wrote:

“good” Isn't the only thing being posted in the comment section, therefore, the Scratch Team could just spent time and effort on a useless button with literally no benefits.
Benefits: Some smaller Scratchers may not want fame (even if these people are rare, they still exist and I'm one of them) and only want their small group of friends to see their projects. Not everyone will have a comment. Also, just because “good” isn't the only comment in the comment section doesn't at all mean that adding a feature that reduces it is entirely useless. This suggestion is also not meant to completely stop commenting, so don't assume that unless the original poster says so.

vendchris wrote:

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

and this accomplishes exactly as much as this comment. An extremely large majority of comments, especially on popular projects, are just “good” or a variation of it.
Therefore, a whole new discussion starts by this comment, they are at least using their keyboards and attracting with the community.
Not really. In my entire time using Scratch (even before I had an account), I've never seen a variation of the “good” comment with even a single reply.

Last edited by GUYWHOLOVESCODE (Feb. 24, 2023 23:05:10)

#31Feb. 24, 2023 23:45:06
qwerty_wasd_gone
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the good button

no support, this is useless
#32Feb. 24, 2023 23:59:33
PPPDUD
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1000+ posts

the good button

Support. It's like the YouTube Dislike button but it's positive.
#33Feb. 25, 2023 00:33:23
mythic_mew
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1000+ posts

the good button

I would good this suggestion
#34Feb. 25, 2023 01:10:41
Za-Chary
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1000+ posts

the good button

I would good this suggestion but only if the Scratch Team adds a “What the Community is Gooding” row on the front page.
#35Feb. 25, 2023 01:12:52
Za-Chary
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the good button

Alright, a more serious answer… I think the existing love button is sufficient enough. The only downside you give is that it might cause a project to be front-paged. But this is remedied by simply unsharing the project, closing comments, or leaving/ignoring the project while it's front-paged.
#36Feb. 25, 2023 01:46:40
GUYWHOLOVESCODE
Scratcher
500+ posts

the good button

Za-Chary wrote:

But this is remedied by simply unsharing the project, closing comments, or leaving/ignoring the project while it's front-paged.
I feel like all three remedies would do more harm than good for me.
  • Unsharing the project would definitely irritate people, and I don't want to close off something for the specific reason of people loving it- it feels petty and rude.
  • I don't like closing comments- I enjoy the predictable chaos that is my friend's extremely random comments. The only exception is when comments may contain spoilers, in which case I direct them to my profile to comment for the project.
  • Leaving/ignoring… know what, I do this to every project I've ever made but uh-
Regardless of these two remedies not appealing to me, there's also the fact that people still followed me by that point and will probably look at my future/previous projects and activity, which also applies to anyone supporting for the same reason as me.
#37Feb. 25, 2023 02:01:29
Za-Chary
Scratcher
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GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

Unsharing the project would definitely irritate people,
Why? If someone asks, just tell them that you would prefer not to have your project on the front page.

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

and I don't want to close off something for the specific reason of people loving it- it feels petty and rude.
You're not closing it for the specific reason of people loving it — I was under the impression that you'd be closing it for the specific reason that it is on the front page. And I assume you would do this if it was on the front page for any reason — for instance, if many users remixed it or the project was featured. Note that a “good” button does not work around remixes or featuring, and would likely not prevent these things from happening (and I argue it's easier to get Top Remixed than it is to get Top Loved).

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

I don't like closing comments- I enjoy the predictable chaos that is my friend's extremely random comments.
I mean, I guess, but at the same time I could just say “I don't like this ‘good’ button because I enjoy the chaos of being on Top Loved.” It's also somewhat like saying “I don't want people to steal things from my house, but at the same time, I don't like closing or locking my doors.” Closing comments is an easy solution to prevent many of the messages you'd get. If you don't want to use this solution, I guess that's okay, but you'd need to understand the risks of this.
#38Feb. 25, 2023 15:37:30
Crow_Boy08
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1000+ posts

the good button

Scratch--TheCat wrote:

Someone can make a project that's something like “ Good if u hate me” or “ Good this project if you hate @A_Scratcher” and people would “good” those types of projects to show that they hate the user who made those projects/the subject of the project
Ninja'd

Last edited by Crow_Boy08 (Feb. 25, 2023 15:39:08)

#39Feb. 25, 2023 15:43:19
Crow_Boy08
Scratcher
1000+ posts

the good button

vendchris wrote:

A better option rather than a useless button that does nothing rather than sending a message to the creator, is discussing why the project is good and expressing your opinions about the project in the comments. To be honest, this just encourages people to not use their keyboards.

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Might cause drama if they say a comment that says good and the haters are “NO BAD!111!11!!!!”
#40Feb. 25, 2023 15:51:23
vendchris
New Scratcher
63 posts

the good button

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

Benefits: Some smaller Scratchers may not want fame (even if these people are rare, they still exist and I'm one of them) -snip-
An easy workaround to not get famous is to not get any hearts or favorites.

GUYWHOLOVESCODE wrote:

Not really. In my entire time using Scratch (even before I had an account), I've never seen a variation of the “good” comment with even a single reply.
“Thank you!”

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